Ra's al Ghul vs. Harley Quinn

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Ra's al Ghul

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Dr. Harleen Quinzel, AKA Harley Quinn

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- Harley gets 1 week prep, has her Ivy-powers, and has the following gear:

--- Hammer

--- Popgun

--- Two cupcake-grenades

--- One set of three explosive chattering teeth

--- Two stilettos

- Ra's gets 2 days prep, his body is aged to about 45 years, and he has the following gear:

--- Two scimitars

--- Six daggers

--- Ten shuriken (they are poisoned but it doesn't matter since Harley is immune to toxins)

- In character

- Win by KO or death

- Pre- and New-52 feats.

- Battle takes place in the streets of Gotham, at night.

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#2  Edited By dondave

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Harley murders Ra's with her stilettos.

Sincerely,

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Poor Harley... WHY MUST THE GOOD DIE YOUNG?! :(((((

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@the_red_viper: Why do you think she'll lose? I was actually thinking she'd probably win.

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I don't know much about Harley with Ivy powers.

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I'll say Ra's.

His vastly superior skill, level headedness and hundreds of years more experience will grant him the victory. That and hes not in bad shape for a guy his age, so he'll physically be able to keep up.

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@cr4psnip3r:

Enhanced strength, agility, speed, and durability, just a bit above peak human. Small healing factor. Immune to all toxins. Can breathe underwater.

She beheaded a giant shark, underwater, with a spear and nothing else.

BEHEADED IT.

She was able to penetrate Killer Croc's (the bulletproof guy) skin with sharpened bowling pins.

Between her huge agility and her gymnastic skill she can damn near fly, she can do a handstand on one finger.

Here's a respect thread.

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#10  Edited By Cr4pSnip3r

I have to be honest, no idea whatsoever. That's some close stuff. Nice choice for a battle. (Harley *drool*)

Although, that handstand on one finger, she's lifting her entire weight. That's over 100lb. Alright, I'm going to go with Harley. I don't think it'll be easy.

*edited because I say "though" too much*

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Although, that handstand on one finger, she's lifting her entire weight. That's over 100lb.

P.S. 140lbs. to be precise.

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@joygirl I'm beginning to think we're getting slightly ridiculous here... well, not us, DC, I mean.

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@joygirl I'm beginning to think we're getting slightly ridiculous here... well, not us, DC, I mean.

Whatcha referencing? The canon weight or the shark head?

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@joygirl Lifting 140lb on a single finger.

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#16  Edited By karimamin1

Ra lays da smackdown

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@cr4psnip3r: Nobody would blink if Captain America did that or something even more absurd. Since he is peak human and Harley is enhanced, she should technically be stronger than him. So no, it's not going too far.

Beheading a megalodon underwater is much more impressive than that. As is knocking out Killer Croc with a bowling ball.

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@joygirl I would grow several more eyes just to blink even more if Captain America lifted himself on one finger. And should she? There isn't enough muscle on her to match C. America, so I don't see why she should be so much stronger that she could lift 140lb onto one finger.

Both are full body feats, so it's not so weird.

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@cr4psnip3r: Because she's superhuman. The amount of muscle she has is irrelevant, the same way Superman should not be able to push planets with the amount of muscles he has.

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#20  Edited By Cr4pSnip3r

@joygirl You said she's enhanced, I don't take that to be Superman or Wonderwoman level.

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#21  Edited By Joygirl

@cr4psnip3r: It's not Superman or Wonder Woman level. It is, however, stronger than she can possibly realistically be at her body weight/density. Therefore, logic does not apply to the things she can do.

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@joygirl Sorry, I guess, I was going by what I imagine enhance to be. Enhanced strength and Super strength are different in my head.

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@cr4psnip3r: Ah, my mental chart goes Olympic < Peak < Enhanced.

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Oh this is like wrestling where the hell with might be stronger. Hell I'm watching Dark Knight on TNT right now.

Hell if some how Joker could beat people to death with rocks and boss other villains around in Salvation Run I could see Harley stabbing Ra's to death with those stilettos.

That just sounds more fun to me when the underdog wins especially when their entertaining.

Like I said Dark Knight is TNT right now.

Not Batman Begins. Even with the Year One aspects Ra's isn't that interesting and the guy's been around for how long?

Plus with the prep @joygirl I could see her dropping the ditzy act bringing her intelligence as a Doctor to bare.

- Finds some way to hack into the bat computer to find methods to win.

- If the battle takes place in Gotham then anybody could interfere. I see Joker stepping in taking him hostage and making Ra's with could just die.

-I could see Poison Ivy helping and augmenting of her weapons after finding some organically derived compound to offset Ra's advantage.

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- I have a character who uses a large hammer. Completely slipped my mind Harley packs one too. I'd love to Her splatter Ra's brains right on Sprang Street between Aparo Lane and Finger Avenue for the pictures to make front page of the Gazette..

My character does it to Hercules:

"Just in time for her first battle against the greatest hero of Ancient Greece, Hercules. He intended on avenging his father and thwarting her vile plot on her first campaign of slaughter. Unfortunately for him and the town that bared witness, Adonna was immune to his renowned strength. Not only did she withstand his powerful blow, she actually laughed at him. His own punch shattered everything from his fingers, his wrist up to Hercules’ shoulder. Being half-god and half-mortal, Hercules’ god ability was worthless against the giant warrior but his human mortality couldn't even attack her without inflicting self injury. The spirit of Greece was crushed on that day with the same hammer which at that point broke Hercules’ back and then flattened his skull. This caused Adonna to bellow that much more at their expense and then proceeded to loot the defenseless town."

Hey I owe you a link. Lol

http://www.comicvine.com/forums/rpg-9/the-goldigger-my-evil-version-of-wonder-woman-1483767/

Anyway it's just corny when people go for a safe obvious winner so to seem cool and agree with others.

Real talk I wanna see her hit Ra's with a bazooka.

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#26  Edited By sync1

I agree with Dick Grayson...

"You're kind of hot for a psychotic."

Ra's wins doe.

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@joygirl said:

@cr4psnip3r: Nobody would blink if Captain America did that or something even more absurd. Since he is peak human and Harley is enhanced, she should technically be stronger than him. So no, it's not going too far.

Beheading a megalodon underwater is much more impressive than that. As is knocking out Killer Croc with a bowling ball.

How she got enhanced strength?

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@bigcimmerian: Poison Ivy gave her a weird potion that did some weird stuff to her immune system, which magically gave her super strength.

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@bigcimmerian: Poison Ivy gave her a weird potion that did some weird stuff to her immune system, which magically gave her super strength.

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@joygirl I put enhanced after peak too, but I put it behind Super. I just think it makes you stronger than you should be, but not crazy unrealistic (For example; Superman). I still think, in my head, that the peak of a 6'2, 240lb male super soldier is going to be equal to, or greater than the enhanced strength of a 5'7, 140lb female acrobat. I guess I have to re-evaluate my idea of enhanced.

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#31  Edited By Ace Thunder

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Anyway it's just corny when people go for a safe obvious winner so to seem cool and agree with others.

Man this forum is so boring. An entire week to prep and nobody can see Harley finding a way to win?

@joygirl you should write a fan fic story where Harley and Ra's go at it. Cause nobody in these forums has the imagination. I've said a hundred times. All the fan worship on here nobody can imagine what a character can do even if they know everything they have done.

Sad.

"Ra's wins because........"

Lame how nobody can even explain how.

Imagine how many people got UFC 163 last night wrong.

Oh what imagination is a dirty word in battle threads.

Lol guys at telling a professional writer how things can't happen

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Eh. Ra's has so much more experience.

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#34 rogueshadow  Moderator

Ra's 9/10.

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Eh. Ra's has so much more experience.

While I agree Ra's wins, experience doesn't mean necessarily mean victory, Batman has less experience and has beaten Ra's in sword fights

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@cr4psnip3r said:

@joygirl Lifting 140lb on a single finger.

People can do that in real life. It's not so much strength, more gymnastics skill and balance (strength does have a lot to do with it though)

Now, if Harley was actually repping a 140lb weight on her finger, that'd be a different story.

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@nickzambuto: There's also throwing a 180lb man several stories straight up, overpowering Two-Face and KOing Croc... oh, and blocking Bruce Wayne's punch with an open palm... swinging Cass Cain around like a rag doll....

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Ha! I think Ra's' ego would be destroyed if he lost to Harley.

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I think Ras' skills will outweigh Harley's enhancements. Should be a good fight though.

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@joygirl Harley just playin around and Bats not being able to touch her! If Batman has trouble touching her, what makes people here think Ra's can as well? (Batman did get a couple hits in this issue, but only smashing her into glass and using his batarang).

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Ra's with ease

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@joygirl: hah no problem! tell me what you think when you read it

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#46  Edited By Joygirl

@batmannflash: Freaking loved it, read them both. She diagnosed him to a tee and all of her notes were scribbles -- Harley is way smarter than she gets credit for.

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Quinn's hot. I'll go with her.

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@joygirl: yeah she was pretty clever! but she did end up losing (but it was the Joker's fault). Glad you enjoyed it. This page cracked me up:

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#50  Edited By JayAaerow

Ra. He's a much more threat then Harley Quinn in skill. He is leader of the League of Assassins afterall.