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#1 Posted by vance_astro (90042 posts) - - Show Bio

You know the drill...who wins? 
 
Fight takes place in the garden outside the X-mansion. 

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#2 Posted by cracks (6974 posts) - - Show Bio

Quicksilver. Too fast.

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#3 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15463 posts) - - Show Bio

I am at a stump can see either taking but I am more towards Cyc

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#4 Posted by vance_astro (90042 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm thinking Quicksilver may be fast enough to beat Cyclops.

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#5 Posted by kagetaicho (1996 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Quicksilver overall. the only way to take out a speed demon is either having great speed yourself, or having enough durability to handle numerous hard blows. Cyclops has neither.

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#6 Posted by Lance Uppercut (23226 posts) - - Show Bio

Quicksilver should win. The last fight I can remember, Cyke made it very clear that the only reason he ever hit Quicksilver was because of a lucky ricochet

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#7 Posted by k4tzm4n (40422 posts) - - Show Bio

Logically Quicksilver should be able to KO Cyclops before he can get off a second optic blast.  The first, is extremely unlikely to hit, IMO.
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#8 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15463 posts) - - Show Bio

Well can Cyc take off his visor?

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#9 Posted by vance_astro (90042 posts) - - Show Bio
@Son_of_Magnus said:
" Well can Cyc take off his visor? "
Yes.
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#10 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15463 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
" @Son_of_Magnus said:
" Well can Cyc take off his visor? "
Yes. "
Hmmmm well he could just destroy him before he gets a chance to take off otherwise he will get blitzed. Plus I can not see Cyc doing that at the mansion.
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#11 Posted by vance_astro (90042 posts) - - Show Bio
@Son_of_Magnus said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" @Son_of_Magnus said:
" Well can Cyc take off his visor? "
Yes. "
Hmmmm well he could just destroy him before he gets a chance to take off otherwise he will get blitzed. Plus I can not see Cyc doing that at the mansion. "
Plus I don't think he would try and kill Quicksilver.
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#12 Posted by k4tzm4n (40422 posts) - - Show Bio
@Son_of_Magnus said:
"Well can Cyc take off his visor? "

That is a very unlikely first action for Summers...Especially against someone it would kill.
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#13 Posted by Lance Uppercut (23226 posts) - - Show Bio

So  wait, is the fight in character?

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#14 Posted by cracks (6974 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n: Quicksilver could likely evade a fully powered optic blast from Cyclops, anyway.       %Pr
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#15 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15463 posts) - - Show Bio
@Vance Astro said:
" @Son_of_Magnus said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" @Son_of_Magnus said:
" Well can Cyc take off his visor? "
Yes. "
Hmmmm well he could just destroy him before he gets a chance to take off otherwise he will get blitzed. Plus I can not see Cyc doing that at the mansion. "
Plus I don't think he would try and kill Quicksilver. "
True I think if he has prep to set up traps of some sort he would have this but otherwise he is at the disadvantage of getting punched in the jaw and not knowing what the hell just happened. I can also see him taking this by spinning in a circle(as silly as that sounds) knocking QS off balance then he goes in for the KO
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#16 Posted by k4tzm4n (40422 posts) - - Show Bio
@cracks said:
" @k4tzm4n: Quicksilver could likely evade a fully powered optic blast from Cyclops, anyway.       %Pr "

True, he could likely have run laps around Cyc in the time he took for him to manually remove his visor.
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#17 Posted by cracks (6974 posts) - - Show Bio
@k4tzm4n: Good exercise. LOL.        %Pr
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#18 Posted by The Man of Tomorrow (418 posts) - - Show Bio
@kagetaicho said:
" I think Quicksilver overall. the only way to take out a speed demon is either having great speed yourself, or having enough durability to handle numerous hard blows. Cyclops has neither. "
Well said.
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#19 Posted by iLLituracy (13551 posts) - - Show Bio

Most of their encounters has Quicksilver easily evading Cyclops' blasts.
 
Cyclops has gotten precision since the old days, he can bank a shot off a wall, but I think it's beyond his ability to predict Quicksilver's movements and predict the trajectory of a shot at the same time.
 
Quicksilver takes this.

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#20 Posted by cracks (6974 posts) - - Show Bio
@iLLituracy: Unless Cyclops predicts where Quicksilver is going and then shoots at an object to reflect the beam off of that object, shot at an angle, but that is unlikely.                %Pr
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#21 Posted by Son_of_Magnus (15463 posts) - - Show Bio

I have been swayed to Quicksilver

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#22 Edited by dane (10826 posts) - - Show Bio

Cyclops has hit Quicksilver before but probably not consistently enough to avoid a speedblitz pummel.
 
I think if Cyclops was in a situation where he could ricochet his optic blast many times like an enclosed space or where Quicksilver had to run in a linear trajectory in order to reach him he could take the win. But more often than not I think Quicksilver wins.

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#23 Edited by Ferro Vida (34318 posts) - - Show Bio

In this set up Quicksilver wins easily.

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#24 Posted by Andferne (38281 posts) - - Show Bio

<--Devil's advocate. (Randomly I do believe Silver would win majority, however I want to play on a what if..)
 
Since the fight takes place outside of the X-mansion in the garden, it limits Quicksilver's maneuverability a little. An open space would be more keen for a curb stomp on his part. Depending on how far apart they start Cyke would know that a single fine blast would most likely be evaded. So this would not be a tactic to take, instead he should focus on trying to get off a wide area beam. This way it is severely harder for QS to avoid in this setting. Firing off a beam wider does weaken the impact, but it should be sufficient enough to stun or disorient him. Which he could later follow up with a more focused blast. Even IF he did not feel comfortable with that tactic or that QS could avoid it, then Scott could just blast the ground in front or near Quicksilver. This could knock him back, or even kick up debry that would hamper his sight and there for attack. If the blast managed to knock him back or down, then Cyke could follow it up just like the first tactic. But again this is all a what if.

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#25 Edited by Dynamo8 (463 posts) - - Show Bio

I lean in the favor for Cyclops here because he has excellent trigonmetry and geometry skills that enable him to predict the movements of Quicksilver.

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#26 Posted by Static Shock (52612 posts) - - Show Bio

Quicksilver.
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#27 Posted by The_Martian (37399 posts) - - Show Bio
@Static Shock said:
" Quicksilver. "
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#28 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17185 posts) - - Show Bio
@Nobody said:
" @Static Shock said:
" Quicksilver. "
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#29 Posted by Lupine (752 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm gonna say Cyke and here's why. Maybe he wouldn't try to kill Quicksilver right of the bat, but he would try to kill his footing.  That's to say that Cyke doesn't attack Quicksilver, but rather he blasts as many random things as he can, the ground included maybe he even takes his visor off.  Quicksilver wins this easily if he gets moving and swinging, but if he has to watch his step every other movement it slows him down considerably. 
 
So if Cyke can make his own obstacle course I think he could pull this off. 

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#30 Posted by WeaponX510 (1096 posts) - - Show Bio

cyclops is so overrated quicksilver would rip his head off before he can even react. quicksilver wins 10/10 no questions asked.

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#31 Posted by The_Martian (37399 posts) - - Show Bio
@WeaponX510: I think thats the first time I've ever heard someone say Cyclops is overrated.
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#32 Posted by gobstakid777 (1970 posts) - - Show Bio

quicksilver can take this

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#33 Posted by Power NeXus (10283 posts) - - Show Bio

 
 

Cyclops has tagged Quicksilver before, but (as he said in the scan) it was a lucky shot.
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#34 Posted by Lupine (752 posts) - - Show Bio
@WeaponX510:  If anything I think Cyclops is underrated. For the longest time he was just the leader that shot eye beams. It's only recently that anyone thought, huh why is he the leader... 
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#35 Posted by Power NeXus (10283 posts) - - Show Bio
@WeaponX510 said:
"cyclops is so overrated quicksilver would rip his head off before he can even react. quicksilver wins 10/10 no questions asked. "

Seriously? He's very much underrated it anything. He's the only member of the original team of X-Men to have almost zero evolution since their beginning. Iceman went from a stupid kid throwing snowballs to one of the most potentially powerful mutants alive. Warren went from a rich little snot with wings to a Horseman of Apocalypse. Beast went from a guy with athleticism barely above peak human to being able to thrash Danger singlehandedly. Jean went from a shy redhead who couldn't do anything more than telekinetically throw small objects at enemies to an Omega-level mutant who is the host of one of the most primeval forces in reality. Cyclops went from a humor-impaired leader who shoots optic blasts and dates a telepath to a slightly less humor-impaired leader who shoots optic blasts and dates a different telepath. None of the writers ever care about him enough to do anything with him.
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#36 Posted by Andferne (38281 posts) - - Show Bio
@Power NeXus: This made me laugh for some strange reason. In a nut shell though it's true.
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#37 Posted by Lupine (752 posts) - - Show Bio
@Power NeXus: It is. lol And made me laugh a lot. 
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#38 Posted by Power NeXus (10283 posts) - - Show Bio
@Andferne said:
" @Power NeXus: This made me laugh for some strange reason. In a nut shell though it's true. "

I'd really like to see the writers give him some kind of awesome power upgrade, like everybody else from the original team has had. I loved the issue in Ultimate X-Men where Cyclops takes Banshee and gets awesomely powerful for a while. They should give him those same powers in 616 now, and make them permanent.
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#39 Posted by amazing_webhead (9245 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone else ever notice how during the original X-Men days, these two kinda had a rivalry? When the X-Men fought the Brotherhood, they usually went for each other.

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#40 Posted by THUNDERBOLT30 (12406 posts) - - Show Bio

Quicksilver for the win.

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#41 Posted by Erkan12 (5637 posts) - - Show Bio
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#42 Posted by Experio (18215 posts) - - Show Bio

Pietro.

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#43 Posted by Wolverine008 (51008 posts) - - Show Bio

Scott can win this with Pietro's jobber aura.

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#44 Posted by SoA (6246 posts) - - Show Bio

cyclops is smarter . not taking away from quicksilver but...

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#45 Posted by LaryKing (361 posts) - - Show Bio

Although i see quicksilver capable of dodging a lot of scott's blasts,he couldn't dodge a wide -range blast,let alone VISOR OFF!!

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#46 Posted by ariesxmasters (4886 posts) - - Show Bio

Quicksilver would kick his ass.

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#47 Posted by Spiderman1997 (2305 posts) - - Show Bio

Pietro.

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#48 Posted by Gizmorino (6317 posts) - - Show Bio

From a big cyclops fan, he lose, Q.S is too fast for him, the time cyke tagged him he was probably still running mach speed, he is not as slow as he was. Even at the time OP was made pietro still wins.

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#49 Edited by micahparadise (786 posts) - - Show Bio

Speedsters in the regular marvel universe dont necessarily get the respect they deserve when it comes to battle feats. Most writers i feel write them weaker than their abilities make them.

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(should have never been able to happen in my opinion)

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I think Mark Millar in the Ultimates was one of the few persons i thought had an understanding of a speedsters ability when he wrote for marvel. (although i think the ultimate version of quicksilver has a power upgrade in speed than his marvel 616 universe counterpart)

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Cyclops has been written to KO two of marvels more famous speedster, northstar and quicksilver once or twice. However i dont think it would really be possible based on a speedster's ability to move, think, react and perceive at high speeds.

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Though i think Northstar is quicker than quicksilver, i think the same way the fight went when northstar fought cyclops, is the same way it will go with this fight. So my vote is on Quicksilver.

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Also some of marvel writers forget that quickilver, being a speedster, can make his blows hit like jackhammers at the speed and amount he lands. He should be able to KO cyclops

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#50 Posted by sophia89 (19807 posts) - - Show Bio

@cracks said:

Quicksilver. Too fast.