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Qui Gon should win mid diff. Momin is cool and i like him a lot but he doesn't have much in the way of feats or scaling.
I would say Momin. Vader got stomped by him in seconds in dueling and I know Vader was massively pre-prime and was injured and exhausted from fending off the army of Mustafarians and creating waves of tsunamis hundreds of feet tall, but still impressive since Vader was holding an advantage over Eeth Koth in 'sabers, someone who contended with Grievous despite harboring a deadly injury (blaster wound).
I would say Momin. Vader got stomped by him in seconds in dueling and I know Vader was massively pre-prime and was injured and exhausted from fending off the army of Mustafarians and creating waves of tsunamis hundreds of feet tall, but still impressive since Vader was holding an advantage over Eeth Koth in 'sabers, someone who contended with Grievous despite harboring a deadly injury (blaster wound).
you literally just listed all the reasons why it is not impressive at all...
Qui-Gon could have beaten that Vader... and actually beaten him not get fodderized by TK
I would say Momin. Vader got stomped by him in seconds in dueling and I know Vader was massively pre-prime and was injured and exhausted from fending off the army of Mustafarians and creating waves of tsunamis hundreds of feet tall, but still impressive since Vader was holding an advantage over Eeth Koth in 'sabers, someone who contended with Grievous despite harboring a deadly injury (blaster wound).
you literally just listed all the reasons why it is not impressive at all...
Qui-Gon could have beaten that Vader... and actually beaten him not get fodderized by TK
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Where is that Qui Gon scan from? Is one of the Canon Comics?
Edit: nm new comic.
What's the title? Is it Age of the Republic series?
Where is that Qui Gon scan from? Is one of the Canon Comics?
Edit: nm new comic.
What's the title? Is it Age of the Republic series?
yes
Qui-Gon. Momin's skills after his resurrection would've been pretty much out of practice; plus, he only beat Vader because the latter Sith was "the worse for wear."
I would say Momin. Vader got stomped by him in seconds in dueling and I know Vader was massively pre-prime and was injured and exhausted from fending off the army of Mustafarians and creating waves of tsunamis hundreds of feet tall, but still impressive since Vader was holding an advantage over Eeth Koth in 'sabers, someone who contended with Grievous despite harboring a deadly injury (blaster wound).
you literally just listed all the reasons why it is not impressive at all...
Qui-Gon could have beaten that Vader... and actually beaten him not get fodderized by TK
I highly doubt that
Can someone show me Momin's feats, did he beat Vader?
Momin stomped early post ROTS Vader in 'sabers, but Vader had just fought through an army of Mustafarians, used a good portion of his reserves to use a Force barrier to survive being engulfed in lava, and then created tsunamis hundreds of feet tall that were almost as tall as Vader's castle itself. and was injured enough for Momin to notice, so Momin stomped an exhausted, injured, massively pre-prime Vader.
Momin also beat his Sith master, but she is featless, so it doesn't amount to much.
Only other thing I can think of is that he was able to survive death, manipulate time with his ultimate creation, and attach his spirit to his mask and can possess Jedi with ease, even though Vader shrugged it off like nothing.
Qui-Gon was recognized for being one of the most skilled Jedi of his time and has exhibited ability with a few different Force techniques. Not convinced that Momin enjoying a reputedly circumstancial victory over pre-prime!Vader is sufficient for him to beat that.
None of his accolades are canon. All of that stuff is Legends.
Qui-Gon was recognized for being one of the most skilled Jedi of his time and has exhibited ability with a few different Force techniques. Not convinced that Momin enjoying a reputedly circumstancial victory over pre-prime!Vader is sufficient for him to beat that.
None of his accolades are canon. All of that stuff is Legends.
For one, you're writing your text as if I said it. Second, where does it say this battle is canon-only?
I don't see how beating a Vader who could barely stand is enough for him to be a match for a member of the Council. Momin get killed again.
Momin can take this
This is actually closer than a lot of people are giving it credit for. Sure, Vader could barely stand but Momin basically stomped him in lightsaber combat. I think that's enough to suggest that normally, he would put up a fight against Vader but I doubt he would win.
On the contrary, what is supposed to be a clone of TPM Maul faired about just as well against regular base Vader, which is much more impressive. The one who stalemated TPM Maul until his lack of stamina got the better of him? Qui Gon.
I'll say Jinn for a slim majority.
If I'm not mistaken, this Vader should be near prime in canon. Prime Vader is superior to TPM Maul by a pretty large amount, and can ragdoll him. But Vader was also extremely hindered here.
I'd say Jinn, though I could be swayed.
Momin fought Vader, when Vader was heavily injured as well. Vader wasn't nearly as good as his prime when he fought Momin.
Qui-Gon was a match for prime Maul, he wins.
If I'm not mistaken, this Vader should be near prime in canon. Prime Vader is superior to TPM Maul by a pretty large amount, and can ragdoll him. But Vader was also extremely hindered here.
I'd say Jinn, though I could be swayed.
Momin fought Vader, when Vader was heavily injured as well. Vader wasn't nearly as good as his prime when he fought Momin
I'm pretty sure Vader around this time (Rebels) is prime Vader in canon.
Yup, but as I said Vader is heavily injured in this fight because of swimming on lava pool in here.
@w4nkdestroyer: This is like 10 years before Rebels
@w4nkdestroyer: Pretty sure that's Vader as of 14 BBY, which is quite a bit before his prime.
Edit: Never mind, darthadi already pointed that out.
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