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#1 Posted by Bat_Siri (2582 posts) - - Show Bio
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Qui-Gon Jinn vs Darth Baras

  • Qui-Gon Jinn During TPM (EU)
  • Darth Baras at the End of The Sith Warriour Storyline

Three Rounds:

  1. Lightsaber Duel
  2. Force Duel
  3. All-Out Fight
  • Both In Character
  • 1v1 Fight
  • Both have their Standard Equipment and At their Standard Level of Power

Fights Take Place at:

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#2 Posted by blackymarket (161 posts) - - Show Bio

@bat_siri: Darth Baras STOMPS. Qui Gon has no defense against Sith sorcery which Sel Makor stated was more powerful than Lord Fulminis (A famous sorcerer in the Empire responsible for the creations of the Seed of Rage, the Harrower assassin as well as destroying cities with pure force energy). Darth Baras also has an AMP from Sel Makor himself who stalemated Vitiate in a battle of the Force, and received another AMP from the Entity, another Dark-side spirit. Yeah, Qui Gon doesn't get STOMPED he gets annihilated in any of their duels (Even sabers given Baras fought the Wrath in a ferocious battle who destroyed hundreds of armies made of soldiers and Jedi)

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#4 Edited by Meatpants (232 posts) - - Show Bio

Baras doesn't have amps, it's his standard power level....

Not only that, but one of Plo Koon's accolades is that he's one of the most powerful Jedi who ever existed, and Qui-Gon is solidly above him.

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#5 Posted by Richard96 (5811 posts) - - Show Bio

I would say Qui-Gon...

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#6 Edited by blackymarket (161 posts) - - Show Bio
@meatpants said:

Baras doesn't have amps, it's his standard power level....

Even if Baras doesn't have AMPs as I stated his Sith Sorcery was more powerful than Fulminis who was chosen by Vitiate on many occasions due to his expertise on Sith alchemy (Basically pitting Baras above one that destroyed a rebellious city with a Force storm). Maul was able to defeat Jin because he was getting tired, which I see happening in this scenario, The Wrath who was able to defeat countless Jedis and the developer placed him as equals with the likes Darth Nox, The HoT, Barsen T'hor was panting (In dialogue/Voice acting) when facing Baras. Meaning that Baras without his AMPs could rival a person with 4 Force Ghosts empowering them each individually have accolades and small feats that suggests their mastery in the art of Sith Alchemy. Nox alone has Force feats that are above anything Qui Gon done and the Wrath displayed feats even before SoR that rivaled Maul in a duel. Which is why if the Wrath was breathing heavily against Baras and they were fighting in a ferocious battle according to accolades, this itself places Baras well above on Jin.

Not only that, but one of Plo Koon's accolades is that he's one of the most powerful Jedi who ever existed, and Qui-Gon is solidly above him.

Do you have feats that imply Jin is above Koon?

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#7 Posted by Meatpants (232 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackymarket: To avoid engaging in semantics, I'll only answer the second question, as that by default puts Jinn well above Baras.

Do you have feats that imply Jin is above Koon?

Well for starters, TPM Kenobi beat Plo Koon in a spar, and he himself is inferior to Qui-Gon. Add on that Jinn has more/better accolades, and he scales to TPM Maul as a feat, which is beyond anything Koon has. It's a pretty open/shut case.

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#9 Posted by TheTragedyOf (45 posts) - - Show Bio

Baras solos

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#11 Posted by SithRevenant (1165 posts) - - Show Bio

@meatpants: As if Jinn's accolade automatically places him above Baras, Malgus as of Decieved was one of the most powerful Sith Lords ever and Baras scales from him.

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#12 Posted by CuckedCurry (1005 posts) - - Show Bio

Baras laughs

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#13 Posted by blackymarket (161 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackymarket: To avoid engaging in semantics, I'll only answer the second question, as that by default puts Jinn well above Baras.

Do you have feats that imply Jin is above Koon?

Well for starters, TPM Kenobi beat Plo Koon in a spar, and he himself is inferior to Qui-Gon.

The key word is "spar", if this was a spar of course Koon would not go all out against a padawan. Jedi Padawans who undergo the Trial of Skill face against holograms of the Ancient Sith Lords such as Darth Desolous or even members of the Jedi Council or the Grand Master. However does that mean that if they beat someone like Yoda or Mace Windu for their Trial of Skill means that he/she will beat them again in a fight to the death? No!

Add on that Jinn has more/better accolades, and he scales to TPM Maul as a feat, which is beyond anything Koon has.

I disagree to this. Koon has bested Ventress one of the most deadliest Jedi assassins who can contend with the likes of Mace Windu while having a broken arm. I wouldn't really scale Qui-Gon close to Maul as on the duel on Tatoonie, Qui-Gon was basically pushed to his back foot by Maul. While on Naboo once Maul separated Kenobi from Qui-Gon it was game over for him as he was also getting tired and exhausted from the duel.