Hey all!
I have always felt that OP speed is the most underrated among the major shonen verses on the Forums, with many people actually believing that all speed in OP somehow scales from Luffy kicking lightning in Skypiea.
Well no, that is rubbish, and this is my humble attempt to set things right.
One Piece actually has plenty of good speed feats, and as a fun intellectual activity, I set out to quantify a few of these.
The results, for lack of a better word, were surprising.
Read on.
Feat#1: The Meteorite
This is arguably one of OP's most prominent speed feats. We have two high tiers (Doflamingo and Law) and one top tier (Fujitora) react to and slice apart a meteorite that was summoned by Fujitora.
First the scans.
Now let's try to put a number on it.
First of all, Fujitora pulled the meteorite from outer space, and meteorites are at an average 100km from the earth's surface.
Next to put a timeframe, in the first scan, notice that Fujitora raised his sword and the meteorite was near instantly visible as a speck in the sky. It's reasonable to assume the meteorite travelled from outer space to a point where it was visible to the naked eye in the time frame it took for Fuji to raise his sword a few inches.
This time frame should logically be in the milli seconds as Fuji is a massively hypersonic character, but to be conservative let's assume the meteorite covered that distance in a second.
For the distance it covered, let's take it as 50 km, half of 100km as it had still not reached the ground.
So, 50km in 1 second which comes to about Mach 143
Since apparently the meteorite slowed down a bit after that point (as the other Marines could see it), I think it's more than reasonable to put this feat at Mach 100 or low triple digits.
This doesn't diminish Law, Doffy and Fuji's feat in any way because those 3 reacted to the meteorite only after it was about a dozen meters away from them.
Moving on...
Feat#2: Boundman moving FTE to Dofamingo over a city block
As the scan shows Boundman was first flying towards and then became completely FTE to Doffy over the length of a city block, instantly appearing right beside Doflamingo without the latter even realizing it.
Average length of a city block is 200m, Luffy obviously had to cover a larger distance because he was at a massive elevation compared to Doffy as well (he was on the royal plateau while Doffy was at ground level in the city).
But to be conservative, let's say Luffy moved 100m there.
Now to put a time frame, we need a value for Doffy's reaction speed.
If we take that Doffy reacted to a Mach 100+ meteorite from a distance of 10 metres by the previous calc, we would get a value of less than 1 mili second for Doffy's reactions.
But again, to be conservative, let's assume he reacted to a Mach 33 meteorite ( minimum speed of meteorite) from a distance of 10 metres, which would give that Doffy can react in a mili second (actually even less).
So to be FTE to Doffy there, Luffy needed to cover 100 metres in a timeframe less than 1 mili second, which put Boundman's flight speed at Mach 286 at minimum.
This scales to Boundman's reactions as well because Luffy stopped right beside Doffy, and possibly his combat speed as well (because Luffy flies by kicking his legs).
If you go by the previous calc and take the speed of the meteorite at Mach 100, it would bump Boundman's speed by 3 times or Mach 858
But is high triple digit mach consistent?
Actually it is in my opinion, at least for the top tiers, as the next and last feat proves...
Feat#3: Aokiji flash freezing Doflamingo before the latter could kill Smoker
So basically Aokiji flash freezes Doffy along with a large swathe of land before the latter can kill Smoker. Notice the top left most panel of the first scan. Doffy's hand is already moving before Aokiji attacks, which is also consistent with the plot (Aokiji only attacked Doffy when he saw Doffy starting to attack. He had no intention of attacking Doffy otherwise).
Doffy is 3 metres tall, and assuming he nearly completed one entire arm extension before he got completely frozen, he moved 1.5 metres .
As for how much land Aokiji froze in that time, let's take it as 50 metres, which is very reasonable considering the 2nd scan shows them as a speck compared to the area Aokiji froze.
Now, again, let's take the conservative estimate and say Doffy's combat speed is Mach 33 from the meteorite feat.
So, now we have both a distance and a time frame, and we can calculate the speed of Aokiji's flash freeze.
It's simple arithmetic now:
50 metres/ Aokiji's flash freeze speed = 1.5 metres/Doffy's combat speed (or Mach 33)
Which puts Aokiji's flash freeze speed at Mach 1100
Taking Doffy's combat speed as Mach 100 would put Aokiji's flash freeze speed over Mach 3k
This is actually consistent with Aokiji, as his flash freezes have frozen oceans extending past the horizon instantly.
And quad machs for the top tiers isn't unreasonable at all considering a low mid tier like Brook has been able to intercept natural cloud lightning at near point blank range.
So that's that folks, tell me what you think!
I plan to do a similar thread soon for some of the dc feats in OP as well, especially Luffy's KKG and the Admirals permanently changing Punk Hazard's climate.
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Ok on popular demand, I will be adding a few more feats to this but first of all I want to clear a few misconceptions:
- As you might have noticed, every single one of these feats were quantified by taking the absolute low ends. My aim was to show that even with taking objective minimums, characters on Dressrosa G4 Luffy's level would be low quad machs/high triple digit machs casually at least. As others have mentioned, if I scaled from the pre time skip lightning timing feats or the recent Brook feat, I would get much higher values.
- None of these feats show in anyway,the upper limits of anyone here, the meteorite feat was casual, Aokiji was toying with Doffy, Boundman's feat was casual.
And now it's time to introduce the infamous, hotly debated but still irrefutable (in my opinion at least) speed feat that has been the topic of much controversy recently. As I have always maintained, the only reason why this feat seems to rustle so many people is because it puts Luffy (base Luffy at that) at a level they at any cost don't want to see him being argued at. Which explains why nobody came after it when it wasn't properly quantified (lol). Anyway I'll let you be the judge, so without further ado, good folks of CV, I present to you....
I have explained my thought process behind quantifying the feat and the level I personally put it at in detail in that thread, but here I will take the opportunity to state that Punk Hazard is not the only time Luffy has performed a similar feat, that is outracing an explosion sticking to his clothes.
He does something very similar in the climax of the fight against Doffy and Trebol. A heavily injured Law is lying on the ground, covered in Trebol's flammable and explosive sticky slime and Luffy himself is also covered in the same sticky slime. Now Trebol sets his slime on fire, we see a huge explosive inferno break out on top of Flower Hill, but miraculously, in the very next page, we see that not only has Luffy escaped himself, but he has also managed to save Law, all more or less unscathed by the explosion of course.
It's very, actually almost exactly similar to the PH feat. Luffy is covered in an explosive, sticky slime, it's set alight, and Luffy escapes the explosion that was sticking to his clothes unscathed. This should dispel any notions of the feat being an "outlier" or "inconsistent", and brownie points because this one's also performed by base Luffy.
If that's still not enough, let's see another similar, but slightly inferior feat performed by a character that is below Luffy in speed.
I am talking of Cavendish's alter ego Hakuba rescuing Robin from Gladius' explosion. So what happens is Robin and Cavendish are trying to scale a cliff face to get to a higher level of the Royal Plateau, when Gladius touches the cliff face they are on, and due to Gladius' powers, the cliff face gets set to explode in moments. Cavendish requests Robin to release him from her clutches so that he can use Hakuba's speed to scale the cliff, right after we see the cliff explode, and the very next panel, we see the Hakuba has managed to carry Robin to safety to the top of the cliff, while outacing the explosion, totally unscathed of course.
So essentially Hakuba outpaced an explosive shosckwave that was powerful enough to ragdoll buildings from what was an arm's length away for a fairly significant distance totally unscathed.
It's not as impressive as the PH feat or the later feat with Trebol, since in those cases the explosions were literally on Luffy's clothes but that's consistent with the power scaling since Hakuba <<< Luffy in speed. I would say this feat is a solid MHS (Mach 100+) feat for Hakuba.
There are some characters who get some pretty neat scaling from this in Dressrosa. One in particular that's really nice would be the Tontattas. We all know how effortlessly Robin dispatched off a blitzing Hakuba. However Tontattas were fast enough to be FTE to this same Robin
I think that's all for now. I might keep updating this once we get new feats in Wano. Though eventually I feel this will all become redundant once the top tiers start scaling to Kizaru's speed and all become relativistic ha ha.
But till then, adios!
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