PYP Fodder R1: Kaijuking vs Mordhauxtreme

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  • x10 Turian Soldiers (Mass Effect) (Armor, Shields, Omni Tools, AP Ammo, Phaeston Rifles, Full Mods, Concussive Shot, Proximity Mines, x4 Krysae Sniper Rifles)
  • x2 Geth Primes (Mass Effect) (Armor, Shields, Omni Tools, Geth Spitfires, Full Mods, Damping, Geth Turret, Overload, Hex Shield, Shield Boost, Radar Jamming)
  • x18 Sliders (Metal Gear) (30.0 KG Unguided Bombs, 5.56mm Gun Pods)
  • x20 Genome Soldiers (Metal Gear) (Flak Body Armor, M16 ARs, Combat Knives, NVGs, Frag Grenades, Claymores, Invisible Stealth Units)
  • x8 Waffen-SS Vampires (Hellsing) (Ultraviolet Gear, MP40 SMGs, Panzerfaust, Stick Grenades)

@mordhauextreme1:

  • x60 B1 Battle Droids, x5 Super Tactical Droids (Star Wars) (E-5 Blasters)
  • x30 B2 Super Battle Droids (Star Wars) (Wrist Blasters)
  • x25 BX Commando Droids (Star Wars) (E-5 Blasters, Thermal Detonators, Vibro Swords)
  • x5 IG-100 Magna Guard (Star Wars) (Electro Staffs, E-5 Blasters)
  • x10 Droidekas (Star Wars) (Shields, Twin Blasters)

Rules

  • All Fodder are composite versions unless stated otherwise in their descriptions.
  • In this tourney there will be a selection of maps. When the match starts the player who is going first gets to choose the battleground. The player going second gets the last post. 3 posts each.
  • All Fodder will move and position themselves to your will. Setting up defense lines or attacks ordered by you. All fodder have coms and communication, but fodder who dont speak the same language or cannot communicate will not with others. Be logical and realistic here. Jurassic Park Raptors are not relaying info to Storm Troopers.
  • You are the General here. You are in the match. You have no armor, or weapons, or gear. Just a coms device and real time knowledge of the battlefield via Satellite pictures. You must rely on your soldiers to relay info, protect you, and taking out the enemy.
  • As the general if you get taken out, or die, you will auto lose.
  • I encourage people to use Microsoft Paint or something like it for the maps. Both sides will starts at map edges of my selected maps, and have 1 minuet to set up.

List of Maps

Chosen Player gets to choose the battlefield and which side to start on. Player Chosen also must post first however.

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@mordhauextreme1: Because I am tourney host I am giving you option to either go first and choose the map or I will go first and choose the map.

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@sirfizzwhizz: Wow, had to make it hard on urself huh, you really think you can handle my forces? Go ahead start first republic scumbag >:D haha

As for the map, dont pick the Sand map.... cause "I don't like sand.It's coarse and rough and irritating and it gets everywhere." lolololol

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TAEP.

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@mordhauextreme1: I will get a pst up in a few days if not by tomorrow night. Prepare your anus!

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@sirfizzwhizz: If u dont do by tomorrow night I will gracefully accept ur surrender >:D

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@sirfizzwhizz: If u dont do by tomorrow night I will gracefully accept ur surrender >:D

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Alright lets open this match. For this match I choose this map. Im red your blue.

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Lets start with my forces explained.

x10 Turian Soldiers (Mass Effect)

Skill and Training

Turians are the most military heavy species in the Mass Effect universe. They live, breath, and promote military service.

"Turian military has formidable discipline. Officers and NCOs are "lifers" with years of field experience. Enlisted personnel are thoroughly trained and stay calm under fire. Turian units don't break. Even if their entire line collapses, they fall back in order, setting ambushes as they go. A popular saying holds:

Boot camp begins on the 15th birthday. Soldiers receive a year of training before being assigned to a field unit; officers train for even longer. Most serve until the age of 30, at which they become part of the Reserves. " Mass Effect 3 Codex

These guys are insane hardcore trained and discipline soldiers. More so than even Clone Troopers who wreck Dorids on even the worst of days. Another major issue is the armament of the troops I have. they are armed to the teeth with versatile abilities and gear.

Phaeston Assault Rifles

These are Mass Accelerator automatic rifles. Each of my Turians have them for mid range combat.

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Statements how Mass Accelerated Weapons work. Emphasis that they all fire rounds at greater velocities than any modern day weapons including .50 Cal weapons.

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AR rounds tearing steel into ribbons with their impacts.

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Revenant Rifle rapid fire turning a stone structure into swiss cheese.

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with full mods, these Assault Rifle now have smart VI systems for better accuracy, better rounds for penetration, and Thermal capabilities to track targets through walls and smoke.

Krysae Sniper Rifles

4 of my soldiers have the Sniper Rifle choice of Turain Military for insane reach and damage.

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The weaker Mantis Sniper Rifle is rapid fire, and one of the weakest in power, still blows apart stone sending shrapnel to shred the soldier nearby the impact. Couple shots from these will break any droid on your team.

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Sniper Rifle Mods include better VI for better headshots, Thermal capability to track targets through walls and smoke, and better piercing capability.

AP Ammo

Even worst for your team is the AP Ammo my team has here. Armor Piercing to a weapon can pierce 1 meter of super dense metals that normal ammo cannot. Thats massive penetration power.

Proximity Mines

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Sticky Grenades are frag grenades' with 3.60 meter radius, and will explode after 15 seconds or if a enemy walks into their proximity. Granting massive battlefield control and some added firepower for my team.

Omni Tools

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The Omni-Tool is a super computer, sensor arrays, and mini fabricator device. Its the ultimate tool to scan, communicate, and create objects from Omni-Gel, plastics, ceramics, light alloys, and silicon resources.

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For this battle their main focused is using the Omni-Tools sensors to track other targets and trace their coordinates. Should be even easier with your team all Droids.

Armor and Shields

The Turians also have access to very durable armor made of special made alloys and metals via Mass Effect Fields.

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Body armor description. While Shields is the first line of defense, several layers if composite ceramic plates help shed away the round and heat of the attack. If the armor is breach computers built in will seal the tears with medi-gel.

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Armor tanking mass accelerated AR fire. No damage.

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Armor withstanding the firepower of a AR round.

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Kinetic Shields/Barriers are stated repulsive mass effect fields that deflect objects/energy moving at rapid velocities. Extreme temperatures, toxins, and radiation is not protected against as stated but this is in fact false.

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Shields can help against heat damage and high radiation as shown here, but burn out fast in doing so. Will provide some protection for short time.

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Incinerate as a projectile locks onto Shepard and explodes against his shields. Stated a pure plasma base attack. The Shields are damage but hold. The Shields just dont work as well vs such things, but they still provide some protection which is important as your blasters energy projectiles have mass to them that will interact with said shields.

x2 Geth Primes (Mass Effect)

The Geth have mostly the same weapons and gear as the Turains. Differences is these two massive bad ass Geth are made entirely of armor, have better shields, and their Geth Spitfires are more powerful weapons.

Geth Spitfire

Stated in Mass Effect 3 Codex as thus. "Like the geth plasma shotgun, the Spitfire is not a true energy weapon. Instead, the minigun magnetically flings clusters of superconducting toroids. These donut-shaped projectiles are designed to shatter upon impact, arcing electricity between the fragments and flash-converting them to plasma. The gun's punishing, automatic blasts impact with the heat of a cutting torch. The weapon's stopping power has garnered the attention of both Alliance and quarian intelligence, who theorize that the Spitfire may have been designed to destroy other geth."The take away here is the weapon is more powerful than the assault rifles feats I shown. Fire off like a Minigun too. It will shred anything on your team in its path with a heating torch level incendiary effect on hyper velocity donut shape rounds.

Hex Shield and Shield Boost

These are just improve abilities for the shields to tank double the damage overall.

Geth Turret

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The turret is a small floating gun firing pistol caliber Mass Accelerator rounds at target in a given location. Its stationary and can only be one at a time.

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The weakest of pistols like the Predator can blows apart a solid structure with one shot. The Geth Turret is no exception in firepower. The little device also repairs shields in the vicinity of 8 meters. "Deploy a multifunctional turret that deals heavy damage and repairs the shields of allies within 8 meters every 8 seconds." Mass Effect 3meaning as long the Geth are around them and the turrets are up they can stand up to any range attacks your throwing out indefinitely.

Radar Jamming

Self explanatory. In a several dozen meter radius all detection devices get jammed. Even the Omni Tool advance sensors are useless here. Meaning in a decent hiding place detection becomes scrambled in the zone of effectiveness.

x18 Sliders (Metal Gear)

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The Sliders are my personnel small air force and acting as advance drones to scout and attack from above with decent enough weapons. While fragile as hell, and can only take small arms real world gun fire, they can be a nasty surprise if used right.

30.0 KG Unguided Bombs

Pretty self explanatory. They pack 6 of these unguided bombs that rocket to the target with 30.KG payloads in real world.

5.56mm Gun Pods

Armed with the equivalent of a M-16 AR in the nose for gun runs.

x20 Genome Soldiers (Metal Gear)

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Genome Soldiers are real worl special forces Tier 2 operatives that undergone special genome treatments which overall enhance their senses to super human levels. Packing real world Flak Body Armor, M-16 ARs, Combat Knives, NVGs, Frag Grenades, and Claymore Mines. What they have that is unique is Invisible Stealth Units.

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The Stealth Units were made by Otacon that allows for invisibility to the naked eye or camera. Strictly visual camouflage. Multiple units were stolen and used by Genome Soldiers to get the drop on snake. So we have Tier 2 level special forces trained soldiers armed with super human senses and complete visual invisibility. Bad combo.

x8 Waffen-SS Vampires (Hellsing)

All the Millennium Vampires are result of research from the remain of Mina Harker who was turn by Alucard into a true Vampire. However all research from the remains made only Pseudo Vampires. These Pseudo Vampires are all veterans of WW2 campaigns and Waffen SS trained. So their pretty elite soldiers to begin with gifted with the Vampire abilities below.

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Millennium Vampires are stated to possess super strength. Vampires speed with supernatural senses are stated able to dodge bullets easily. These attributes allow the Waffen SS Vampires with their meager but still effective armaments of MP40 SMGs, Panzerfaust, Stick Grenades to wreck much damage and act as solid flankers and hit and run specialist for my team.

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Waffen-SS Vampires have Ultraviolet protection gear as well plenty of tree coverage making their main weakness to sunlight a non issue as well.

Battle Plan

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This is called a fire plan in the military.

  • Orange = 10 Man Genome Squads.
  • Blue = Turians in two houses.
  • Red = Geth and myself.
  • Yellow = The coverage and lanes of weapons fire.

To begin with my team will run forward to the two houses. With constant tracking and surveillance via Sliders in the air way above like normal Drones do, and Omni Tools reading out your forces.

The Turains are rushing to take the houses. Again they have eyes on your team the whole time and can safely set up the 4 Snipers on the top floors, and the rest on the bottom to lay down fire.

The 2 Geth Primes are my personnel bodyguards. With their layers of shields, and set up turrets between the homes for more fire power and shield recharges, I can safely just hide behind the largest house monitoring the situation as it unfolds.

The Genomes have placed multiple Claymores on the flanks in the trees, at the same time invisible and using that proven and tried real world Tier 2 Special forces stealth. They are covering the flanks making sure to ambush any droids that try to go around. with the tree line as excellent cover to incoming fire as well. Their 5.57 rounds are more than enough to punch through the Droid armor.

Now what about my Vampires? They have the special role.

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as the battle starts they will slide at super speeds to the X checkpoint. Waiting on the other forces to get into position. When the battle starts, and the majority of your droids are firing and being fired on, they run at super speeds in a flank maneuver to where you are. How will they find you? Your the only living being on your team. Their super senses will pick you out easy.

These vamps will cover the battlefield in seconds. able to out run a speeding car going 60-80mph fine. The attack will be so swift and sudden with them unloading their high explosive Panzerfaust on you as well throwing Stick grenades for good measure.

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Your not surviving this my friend, sorry had to kill you in such a way that there is nothing left to put in a coffin.

In the end you may kill some of my team, but overall the surveillance is king here and a super speedy group of hit and run specialist seal the deal as my team simply needs only to hold the line and distract. I also still have the mass of Sliders in the air for a back up plan if by some miracle you survive this craziness. My team is simply going to be able to easily control the battlefield, better equipped, and better trained.

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Ill have a post up prolly friday night or saturday morning, try not to cry when i counter ur garbage argument with 101 CIS droid logic :P

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@sirfizzwhizz: my gifs arent working ill try to see if there's another process I can do to get them to work

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@sirfizzwhizz:I hope ure ready to lose goober, u chose the wrong neightbor UNLEASH...

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oops wrong meme, I mean

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Background of the Superior CIS forces ( I'll come back and edit more of this later )

B1 Battle Droid

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B1 Battle Droids are the weakest forces used by the CIS, they are simple minded with only one thing on their mind, to kill all republic meat bags and bring to order the new superior species, the metal kind! With that said they are mass produced and are decent henchmen, but in a universe with plenty of worlds. They provide a variety of ways to overcome the environment via different versions but all within a similar looking manner. Like most CIS droids they dont bother themselves with free thinking, but more along the lines of paving a new road for their PC master race and all like it. They are to not be taken serious in their setting, but in other settings they are considered the deadliest of deadly warriors. Fear them....

B2 Super Battle Droid

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Like the B1 Battle Droid, Super Battle Droids are a superior version in almost all aspects. They aren't quite as diverse, but their diversity has more of an impact due to their few changes that provide excellent ways to take down their foes. ( Example a version that has a rocket launcher for an arm or the superior space invaders version ), However they are far more durable than their B1 counterparts and often work with them to make sure the job is done. They can take more of a beating than their lesser versions and deliver more fire power as well. They are still mass produced in great numbers and have taken on and won against various foes including clones, humans, and various aliens in various environment and defeated them. In the end like the B1 Battle driod, fear them....

Droidekas

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Known as wheels of death, the rolly pollys, destroyers, etc. Droidekas are one of the best droid infantry fighting forces within the CIS as they are know for their high durability and high fire rate. They are capable of tanking great damage before their shields give out and are capable of moving at high speeds thank to their superior rolling abilities. They are a legit threat in the SW galaxy and have even given jedi a rough time and a run for their money. The only thing in their mind is "blast them" and that's about it. Unlike the other B1 and B2 they don't talk much or at all and only communicate with other droids when in a fire fight and only listen to the orders given to them as well. As always you should, fear them...

Super Tactical Droid

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These guys are the master minds of plenty of CIS victories, when a known general is being used; GG or Count Dooku. They are in charge and they have either stalled, won battles, or gave the republic costly victories. They are viewed as nothing but simple minded, but that is far from the fact. The Republic makes a habit of trashing these guys, but then within the same instance will target them with high priority knowing that they have a vast knowledge of CIS intel along with battle plans. The CIS runs off these guys or their lesser known cousins which are just Tactical droids whom are kinda meh. Overall these geniuses are not knew to war and unlike the rest up above and prolly down below, they have a huge selection variety in communicating with both meat bags and fellow droids alike, fear them....

BX Commando Droid

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BX Commando droids, also just Commando droids are some of thee best droids ever in the CIS forces. They are capable of doing the job whether it requires stealthy approaches, frontal assualts, hit and run, harassing, stalling, you name it. They are capable of absolutely mobbing through clones like no tomorrow and even giving the jedi a little bit of a challenge. They are very evasive in their fighting style and work like a well oiled machine when it comes to working as pairs. They are not to be looked upon like a simple droid because if you do so, you are dead. They are very durable, experts in h2h combat, and provide excellent aim as well. They are the commandos of the CIS and as always, fear them.....

IG-100 Magna Guard

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IG-100 Magna Guards or Magna Guards simply known as are thee best infantry droid the CIS has to offer, they are jedi killers and have regularly went against jedi and even out did anakin along with other jedi with only but a few of them. They are no joke and are the trusted bodyguards of general grevious. They have expert h2h combat along with cqc combat thanks to the good ol general training each and every one of them with their knowledge of how to fight, they have amazing stats in that they can race across the battlefield at great speeds and jump/leap from high heights only to land just fine. They are cold, calculating, and most of all deadly. Their durability is rather insane as even if they lose their head they can still see through the third eye in their belly. However they can be defeated, but its unlikely for that to happen as generally the person has to out smart them rather than simply out fight them. Even obi wan had to use the force against four of them as it'd be much easier than fighting again four of them at the same time. All in all, fear them....

Countering your arguments with our dummy thicc intel processing units and superior metal genes

Alright lets open this match. For this match I choose this map. Im red your blue.

Alright, but I wanted red... hue

This is called a fire plan in the military.

  • Orange = 10 Man Genome Squads.
  • Blue = Turians in two houses.
  • Red = Geth and myself.
  • Yellow = The coverage and lanes of weapons fire.

To begin with my team will run forward to the two houses. With constant tracking and surveillance via Sliders in the air way above like normal Drones do, and Omni Tools reading out your forces.

Oof, you see we already have a problem here.

First you have to assume that the omni tools could pick up signature readings on my droid forces. Are my B1 Battle droids made of the same metal used in Mass Effect?

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Since my gif maker isnt working, ill have to break down the video and time stamp it for everyone

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You see the Clones had to use specialized handheld devices to observe the Droids like so ( Time stamp at 1:39 )

Secondly, even ur standard B1 Battledroid can run at insane speeds look at him go! ( Time Stamp at :26 )

Thirdly, CIS applies wonderful stealth tactics look at how this B1 Battle droid sniper is stealth watching these clones, its like they don't even know! ( Time stamp at 1:09 ) Furthermore they take out clone troopers are have far better training than any of ur forces here besides the Geth, but thats two Geth vs an whole army of us with superior training!

CIS applies wonderful stealth tactics in the dense forest, see Naboo for example,

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I mean, do you honestly expect to get the drop on these guys? They're like Snake Solid but better!

Now that we've cleared that up. Can all ur troops run like this, fight like this, and march like this?!

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No? Oof, I hope ure preparing ur Roger Roger speech because our bois are gonna SMOKE u in the 100 yard dash.

The Turains are rushing to take the houses. Again they have eyes on your team the whole time and can safely set up the 4 Snipers on the top floors, and the rest on the bottom to lay down fire.

There's nothing to suggest your Turains will out run my droids and you can't have eyes on my if you don't have the specific requirements of not be hacked and no specialized handheld devices.

Although I'm feeling generous and allowing you to have such an advantage, it won't do you any good. All I have to do is squat down behind my droidekas and let them shield me as I await for my forces to push on.

Regardless you won't make it to the houses fast enough as my Super Tactical Droids ( bobs for short ) will have already calc'd your forces wanting to take the "advantage" of the are you want. Your forces run at like what? 2mph, my B1 Battle droids ran up a huge building up several flights of stairs at record speed, they are at least running 40 mph. That's like more than 20x ur force's speed. Let alone how fast our magna guards are, which run at hypersonic speeds. By the time your forces even make to the house they'd be signing their death warrents they just wouldn't know it yet. Thus since we can run faster, ninja faster, and with our unlimited patience wait faster. We shall set a trap and ambush you faster.

The 2 Geth Primes are my personnel bodyguards. With their layers of shields, and set up turrets between the homes for more fire power and shield recharges, I can safely just hide behind the largest house monitroing the sitaution as it unfolds.

Ah the two only decent troops on your side, since you know... metal is the superior skin. However I'd have to disagree, as stated up above. Your Geth run at a big whoop 10 mph, which is impressive, but not that impressive and since they are ur body guards, they are further reduced to 2mph because again u can only run 2mph, so in all honestly this whole set up is doomed to fail because your inferior meat bag can't compete with my superior metal skin robot friends who don't need me because my commanders are doing all my heavy lifting for me. Ik, the horror. :)

The Genomes have placed multiple Claymores on the flanks in the trees, at the same time invisible and using that proven and tried real world Tier 2 Special forces stealth. They are covering the flanks making sure to ambush any droids that try to go around. with the tree line as excellent cover to incoming fire as well. Their 5.57 rounds are more than enough to punch through the Droid armor.

Bullets are out dated in SW and although they might be enough to sooner or later put down a B1 battle droid, they arent strong enough to counter the B2 Superior droid, but the problem is. You genome soldiers are super slow and to even get half way across the map means you'd have to out run my forces, but you can't. Our bobs also have already accounted for this and would simply ignore it only to push on against you, yourself since all my team needs to do is kill you, so in this part of the plan it will change since my forces are heading straight for your FOB and setting up the trap. I'd assume ur Genomes won't even get time to fire a shot since they first have to plan claymores as per ur orders and then hope to the lord all mighty they can hit 40mph standard battle droids let alone commando droids and Magnaguards as they do the usain bolt rush to ur FOB

Now what about my Vampires? They have the special role.

as the battle starts they will slide at super speedws to the X checkpoint. Waiting on the other forces to get into position. When the battle starts, and the majority of your droids are firing and being fired on, they run at super speeds in a flank maneuver to where you are. How will they find you? Your the onl living being on your team. Their super senses will pick you out easy.

They are special, they are faster than some of my droids, but two things are wrong here

Droidekas even in their slower versions ( movie versions ) are capable of not only firing upon jedi and causing them to flee, but they are capable of visually reacting and firing upon their super sonic speeds as shown down below

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Your vampires are fast, just not that fast. Our droidekas have the superior fire power and superior reflexes to absolutely body your special forces.

Secondly due to our Bob's having vast amount of knowledge about millions of species in the SW galaxy, vampires are there, somewhere there, somewhere hiding in the deep darkest holes in the galaxy, and somehow the Bob's have intel on them, and if they have intel on them. Then they have intel on ur vampires, meaning we are already prepared for vampire tactics, tactics used by vampires. Meaning the classic vampire flank used since the dawn of time will be again calced. How will it be calced? By my droidekas's doing a 360 defense and on my orders will hold their ground no matter what, thus this means you can't get by, around, above, or anywhere. I'm simply too stronk for these vampires. The best part? I again got 10 droidekas to do the job and u got 8, this means we have two droidekas to spare in case u somehow slip past. and if ur vampires try to bust through, they get splatted by their shields.

These vamps will cover the battlefield in seconds. able to out run a speeding car going 60-80mph fine. The attack will be so swift and sudden with them unloading their high explosive Panzerfaust on you as well throwing Stick grenades for good measure.

All range is good fire power, too bad Droideka shields and even anakin says nothing short of a cannon can pierce it's shields. Sorry pal ur ww2 glow sticks and fruit launchers won't cut it :(

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and without prior knowledge they wont know this weakness as well even if they did, we out number u by 2, making flanking impossible especially with a 360 defense.

This means again I can sit within their shield as they deploy, thus protecting me from any fire power. Now this is assuming you don't instantly call them back because ur FOB is under attack and you're at risk of being killed urself. You see you're playing checkers and I'm playing 3D chess. My guess is, when your forces suddenly start dropping like flies, you're gonna panic, you're gonna get scared and you're gonna choke up. Meanwhile i'll be as calm as ever since I don't have to do anything but sit peacefully in a circle, so while you're wilding out and crapping ur pants as the site of this

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It's okay little guy you can start crying now :)

Your not surviving this my friend, sorry had to kill you in such a way their is nothing left to put in a coffin.

I'm afraid I will, you see your plan is a good plan, but its also an opinion and do you know how the CIS feels about opinions? Let's ask Mark Zuckerbot

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In the end ypu may kill some of my team, but overall the surveillance is king here and a super speedy group of hit and run specialist seal the deal as my team simply needs only to hold the line and distract. I also still have the mass of Sliders in the air for a back up plan if by some miracle you survive this craziness. My team is simply going to be able to easily control the battlefield, better equipped, and better trained.

On the contrary if you somehow survive this, you need to go to the lottery because you just pulled the biggest miracle of miracles in all of sci fi, fantasy, and cinema history. However, as calc'd the chances of you winning is less than .01%

Gameplan for maximum Roger Roger power

I'll make this simple for you,

I have 5 Bobs with supreme intelligence, I order them to apply their skynet tactics and counter attack everything your forces are going to do. Meanwhile I will hide next to a shield circle of droidekas that will protect me from every angle that matters. With my Bobs doing all the heavy lifting for me, I will simply obverse my forces swarm and cut your forces down to the very last bit. You have no counters, what you can do, we can do better. I'll show case a few maps of my forces doing the same thing, but better, cause as Khan once said,

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Your forces plan

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Our forces plan

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x60 B1 Battle Droids, x5 Super Tactical Droids (Star Wars) (E-5 Blasters) - Red

x30 B2 Super Battle Droids (Star Wars) (Wrist Blasters) - Orange

x25 BX Commando Droids (Star Wars) (E-5 Blasters, Thermal Detonators, Vibro Swords) - Light blue

x5 IG-100 Magna Guard (Star Wars) (Electro Staffs, E-5 Blasters) - Dark Blue

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Black - Me

Yellow - Droidekas

You see how we needed a much simpler plan? It's because simpler is always better in war and we are the better! :P

Where I will be at with my Droideka bodyguards kinda like that but overlapped with their energy shields or simply inside one it doesn't matter I can fit to, so dont matter :D

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GG WP TY for playing :P

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@mordhauextreme1: You make this debate enjoyable. Loving it. Have a post up later tonight. Or I might finish readin Gunslinger Spawn and make his respect thread. If the latter have it up tomorrow.

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@mordhauextreme1: You make this debate enjoyable. Loving it. Have a post up later tonight. Or I might finish readin Gunslinger Spawn and make his respect thread. If the latter have it up tomorrow.

Oh dont you worry I got more to, prepare for the full power of the PIS/WIS CIS in its final form haha. If you want u can read to, im still hoping by the next time i can post that the gif maker is working

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Look at this fun filled wacky post. I can finally get deep into this.

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Prepare yourself.

Alright, but I wanted red... hue

Exactly, already my strategic genius is throwing you off. HA!

Oof, you see we already have a problem here.

First you have to assume that the omni tools could pick up signature readings on my droid forces. Are my B1 Battle droids made of the same metal used in Mass Effect?

Since my gif maker isnt working, ill have to break down the video and time stamp it for everyone

You see the Clones had to use specialized handheld devices to observe the Droids like so ( Time stamp at 1:39 )

Your right, except...

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Tali using Omni-Tool to map out areas and bases.

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Tali and other Quarians using their Omni-Tool to scan and record data, as well process data gathered. Allowing one to measure electromagnetic energy and dark energy. Electromagnetic energy. Like what Droids are run off on.

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Omni-Tools can be used to detect hack other computers signals, like what the Droids all use. Wireless transmissions and com devices. .

Secondly, even ur standard B1 Battledroid can run at insane speeds look at him go! ( Time Stamp at :26 )

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Thirdly, CIS applies wonderful stealth tactics look at how this B1 Battle droid sniper is stealth watching these clones, its like they don't even know! ( Time stamp at 1:09 ) Furthermore they take out clone troopers are have far better training than any of ur forces here besides the Geth, but thats two Geth vs an whole army of us with superior training!

CIS applies wonderful stealth tactics in the dense forest, see Naboo for example,

I mean, do you honestly expect to get the drop on these guys? They're like Snake Solid but better!

Clones are as much Stormtroopers at times. Clones have a few years to grow and train. Then sent off in meatgrinder fashion by un tactical Jedi generals. Hardly same for 30 year experience and train Turians, Geth, decade of battles Waffen SS, and the way better elite spec ops train "super soldiers" that are Genomes. Not to mention ariel recon with actual Drones in my Sliders, and the superior tech in Omni Tools.

Now that we've cleared that up. Can all ur troops run like this, fight like this, and march like this?!

No? Oof, I hope ure preparing ur Roger Roger speech because our bois are gonna SMOKE u in the 100 yard dash.

To be fair the Geth can. Being a superior class of droid our using lol. Also those Vamps and Sliders smoke all your attempts running into my forces. staffing runs will be a bitch.

There's nothing to suggest your Turains will out run my droids and you can't have eyes on my if you don't have the specific requirements of not be hacked and no specialized handheld devices.

I dont see why not. Turians run at peak human speeds which is fast enough to make it to the tree line and buildings. If your argument really is bum rushing my team with slow ass droids in a dash, that makes them out of cover and easy to pick off. I have no qualms as my guys from the tree line take positions there and causally pick yours in the open from safety of cover. None.

Although I'm feeling generous and allowing you to have such an advantage, it won't do you any good. All I have to do is squat down behind my droidekas and let them shield me as I await for my forces to push on.

Well thank you kindly. So the plain is your forces get out shot and distracted while my vamp anus rush is still in effect.

Regardless you won't make it to the houses fast enough as my Super Tactical Droids ( bobs for short ) will have already calc'd your forces wanting to take the "advantage" of the are you want. Your forces run at like what? 2mph, my B1 Battle droids ran up a huge building up several flights of stairs at record speed, they are at least running 40 mph. That's like more than 20x ur force's speed.

2 mph?

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Peak humans can run as fast as 15 mph. The Vamps are hitting 50-60 mph. Sliders are also hitting 50-60 mph. Geth can run as fast as any Droid.

Let alone how fast our magna guards are, which run at hypersonic speeds.

Show it. Show me one running feat at Hypersonic. Combat speed, sure. Travel Speed? Show me. Ill wait here.

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By the time your forces even make to the house they'd be signing their death warrents they just wouldn't know it yet. Thus since we can run faster, ninja faster, and with our unlimited patience wait faster. We shall set a trap and ambush you faster.

Meh, you may have a point if my team didnt have eyes on yo the whole match. Better weapons and explosives as well.

Ah the two only decent troops on your side, since you know... metal is the superior skin. However I'd have to disagree, as stated up above. Your Geth run at a big whoop 10 mph,

I never said they run 10mph.

which is impressive, but not that impressive and since they are ur body guards, they are further reduced to 2mph because again u can only run 2mph, so in all honestly this whole set up is doomed to fail because your inferior meat bag can't compete with my superior metal skin robot friends who don't need me because my commanders are doing all my heavy lifting for me. Ik, the horror. :)

Im out of shape from my Navy Seabee days, but I assure you I can move my ass over 10mph. I still run. Plus, they can technically carry me. Im not ashamed.

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Not one bit ashamed.

Bullets are out dated in SW and although they might be enough to sooner or later put down a B1 battle droid, they arent strong enough to counter the B2 Superior droid, but the problem is. You genome soldiers are super slow and to even get half way across the map means you'd have to out run my forces, but you can't.

Genome Soldiers are super human special forces. Easily in the 15-20 mph range. Plus they dont have to move fully to their destination. Their only job is covering the flanks. They also have invisible stealth and grenades. Super Senses to boot.

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:01-1:15 we see the B1, B2, and Commando droids ambush by half ass rebel forces with no stealth and little training in a open city. Hell a tank moving at several mph rams unaware Droids. Genomes will wreck your B1 Droid or even Commando Droids in ambushes in the trees. I dont see Drodekies or B2s fairing well speed wise through thick trees either. The key factors is Turians, sliders, Geth gunning down the Droids rushing the opening, and my Vamps getting you literally in the rear.

Our bobs also have already accounted for this and would simply ignore it only to push on against you, yourself since all my team needs to do is kill you, so in this part of the plan it will change since my forces are heading straight for your FOB and setting up the trap.

Making your limited in number forces in the proverbial phrase "fish in the barrel".

I'd assume ur Genomes won't even get time to fire a shot since they first have to plan claymores as per ur orders and then hope to the lord all mighty they can hit 40mph standard battle droids let alone commando droids

Genomes can multitask. If they dont have time to plant, they can refocuse on just firing and grenading your forces. All your dorids have shit sensors and been stealth by clones fine.

and Magnaguards as they do the usain bolt rush to ur FOB

Are you splitting your Magnagaurds? You only have 5. Or you focusing on one flank? Which one? Hope they dont run into the Vamps where they get wrecked by a equal foe. Hard to block AOE explosives from super sonic Vamps.

They are special, they are faster than some of my droids, but two things are wrong here

Droidekas even in their slower versions ( movie versions ) are capable of not only firing upon jedi and causing them to flee, but they are capable of visually reacting and firing upon their super sonic speeds as shown down below

Your vampires are fast, just not that fast.

The Jedi easy out maneuver them in your gif with burst of super speed.

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The Valentine Vampire moves as a blur.

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Millennium Vampire moves at blur speed while dodging 9mm gun fire.

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Waffen-SS Vampire dances around AK-74 gun fire from highly skilled Wild Geese mercs with ease.

They will easily avoid the Droiedkies, and all they have to do is sthrow massive ordance in Panzerfaust and Stickbombs to your general location. The amount of fire and shrapnel will kill you quick. all the force fields bubble around you wont save ya from damage from above. Also those shields dont work well at all vs slower physical objects.

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3:04. As Anakin himself states the shields stop high velocity weapons like blasters, those hypersonic to lightspeed projectiles. However, as shown grenades, and very likely the slower Panzerfaust, will by pass the shields fine anyway. So oof.

Secondly due to our Bob's having vast amount of knowledge about millions of species in the SW galaxy, vampires are there, somewhere there, somewhere hiding in the deep darkest holes in the galaxy, and somehow the Bob's have intel on them, and if they have intel on them. Then they have intel on ur vampires, meaning we are already prepared for vampire tactics, tactics used by vampires. Meaning the classic vampire flank used since the dawn of time will be again calced. How will it be calced?

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By my droidekas's doing a 360 defense and on my orders will hold their ground no matter what, thus this means you can't get by, around, above, or anywhere. I'm simply too stronk for these vampires. The best part? I again got 10 droidekas to do the job and u got 8, this means we have two droidekas to spare in case u somehow slip past. and if ur vampires try to bust through, they get splatted by their shields.

As I said the drive by will be fast, and all that explosives will by pass the shields anyway.

and without prior knowledge they wont know this weakness as well even if they did, we out number u by 2, making flanking impossible especially with a 360 defense.

They dont need to know a weakness, the tactic will work with knowledge or not.

This means again I can sit within their shield as they deploy, thus protecting me from any fire power. Now this is assuming you don't instantly call them back because ur FOB is under attack and you're at risk of being killed urself. You see you're playing checkers and I'm playing 3D chess.

3d is overrated its why no one likes 3d games or movies. Though throwing forces in the meat grinder as you state you will is not 3d chess. I might be playing checkers but your playing Chutes and Ladders ;)

My guess is, when your forces suddenly start dropping like flies, you're gonna panic, you're gonna get scared and you're gonna choke up. Meanwhile i'll be as calm as ever since I don't have to do anything but sit peacefully in a circle, so while you're wilding out and crapping ur pants as the site of this

I dont know, I been in many crisis and never panic before, and seeing your forces casually gun down is not really intimidating.

I'm over here like

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^ very much you will be like lol.

I'm afraid I will, you see your plan is a good plan, but its also an opinion and do you know how the CIS feels about opinions? Let's ask Mark Zuckerbot

That made me laugh. I have to use that one someday lol.

Gameplan for maximum Roger Roger power

I'll make this simple for you,

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I have 5 Bobs with supreme intelligence, I order them to apply their skynet tactics and counter attack everything your forces are going to do. Meanwhile I will hide next to a shield circle of droidekas that will protect me from every angle that matters. With my Bobs doing all the heavy lifting for me, I will simply obverse my forces swarm and cut your forces down to the very last bit. You have no counters, what you can do, we can do better. I'll show case a few maps of my forces doing the same thing, but better, cause as Khan once said,

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Alright, so as we covered. Drodekeis shields wont stop the Vamps tactic. Check. Your team is shot like fish in a barrel. Check. So far on track. Let me sum up your plan.

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I like your plan. Sure it will work out as well as it did this group lol.

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This exchange is fantastic so far. Kudos to both. Actually made me chuckle and cackle at times.

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#24  Edited By sirfizzwhizz
@cergic said:

This exchange is fantastic so far. Kudos to both. Actually made me chuckle and cackle at times.

The best debates are when people can have fun with it.

though it pisses me off I cant fix my grammar issues after I posted this. CV wont let me. I might have to delete and repost. CV such shit with its glitches.

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This exchange is fantastic so far. Kudos to both. Actually made me chuckle and cackle at times.

SFW already knows im not taking this tourny seriously, I mean yes i will debate obviously, yet hes got plenty of actual legit argument's going on right now and I figured this would just be a fun match to just blow off some steam along with relaxing putting in some truth into our debate but for the most part coming up with fairly creative ways to bs our way through with lol

Doing some crunch time stuff so ill prolly be able to respond to the post on friday good sir Xd. I can already tell by the looks of skimming it. I sense the trolling is going higher than Dogecoin at its peak lolololol

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@sirfizzwhizz:

Prepare yourself.

Already have 15 days ago,

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I owe it to my team for doing the heavy lifting for me :)

Exactly, already my strategic genius is throwing you off. HA!

Naw, I just like the color the red and since u took it, you just made urself an easier target since bum rushing houses is only what noobs do in call of duty! huehue

Your right, except...

Tali using Omni-Tool to map out areas and bases.

Tali and other Quarians using their Omni-Tool to scan and record data, as well process data gathered. Allowing one to measure electromagnetic energy and dark energy. Electromagnetic energy. Like what Droids are run off on.

You almost had me, almost. You see my beloved droids don't run off of electromagnetic energy, they run off of computer related sound waves which are a more highly intense version of waves. Evidence of this is down below,

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The first video up above ^ Is for the sound waves the second video down below is to display what sound the B1 Battle droids are actually listening to

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Omni-Tools can be used to detect hack other computers signals, like what the Droids all use. Wireless transmissions and com devices.

This would be more concerning if cyber warfare wasn't a thing and since the CIS applied it to both cyborgs and the republic who were out hacked, the poor republic scum, then it'd be a serious threat, but since the CIS are all hack proof as shown down below

Battle Droids

Mainstay of the Separatist infantry, battle droids are churned out on Techno Union foundry worlds. They answer to central computers,

-Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith The Visual Dictionary

This mixed with the sound waves up above, show cases your team aint hacking nothing but themselves. You dont want any of this homes, not one big of this big enough intel processing unit! In other words

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Oh and your team's tears ( snowflakes just for you mwahahahah )

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So in other words you're back to square one, had enough yet? Xd

Clones are as much Stormtroopers at times. Clones have a few years to grow and train. Then sent off in meatgrinder fashion by un tactical Jedi generals. Hardly same for 30 year experience and train Turians, Geth, decade of battles Waffen SS, and the way better elite spec ops train "super soldiers" that are Genomes. Not to mention ariel recon with actual Drones in my Sliders, and the superior tech in Omni Tools.

You know, I'd almost believe you but CIS droids have killed jedi, who've got hundreds of years of training under their belt as shown down below

https://youtu.be/clDQSH6Lq1k?t=17

https://youtu.be/cK5zMDVGF2Y?t=230

https://youtu.be/cK5zMDVGF2Y?t=235

Haven't defeated Clones in h2h combat

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They also have murked the Naboo Royal guard and pilots ( ill just post link since i dont wanna clog it with videos Xd )

https://youtu.be/5QQqYev7a10?t=131 <--- Pilot dies

https://youtu.be/5QQqYev7a10?t=142 <--- Guard dies

https://youtu.be/5QQqYev7a10?t=157 <--- Guard dies

https://youtu.be/QijTzhMGbiI?t=13 <--- Guard dies

It should also be noted the Naboo Guard stood no chance against the CIS Power house because they ended up capturing the meat bags and forcing them to surrender! Not once, but twice!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPVcV5uJWoY ( the beginning )

https://youtu.be/QijTzhMGbiI?t=199

Info on Naboo Guards!

Palace Guard

The Palace Guard is the highly-trained bodyguard of the Queen and the Court. While the Security Guard function as a militia, the Palace Guard is made up of dedicated soldiers who typical experience battle off-planet and return to protect the Queen out of loyalty. Although few in number, the Palace Guard is the backbone of the Naboo security

-Star Wars: Episode I The Visual Dictionary

Awww boi, mega thicc radio waves be doing a lot of donkey kicking! Did you read that, DID YOU!!! HIGHLY TRAINED! Just like all ur meat bag scum and look at the basic model not even the new and improved B1 Battle Droids, putting in work!

They've murked a whole warrior society in the instance of the Gungans and even killed wookies!!!

https://youtu.be/QijTzhMGbiI?t=1 <--- Gungan with a shield dies easily

There's more, but most of the Gungan's are forced to surrender. The downside of not having an intel processing unit!

https://youtu.be/QijTzhMGbiI?t=210

Here we got wookies dying left and right!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqudjK6g0oE <--- somewhere in this video wookies have died idk where, but i smell burnt hair huehue

Gungans and wookies share more than a few lousy years of sitting around and getting fat like the Turians. :P

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Sorry old friend, but ur Turian are simply out matched, the Geth have about as much battle experience as them since they live in a very peaceful galaxy :), your Waffen SS are already dead due to Droidekas and your genome soldiers aren't superior to the combo of wookies, ELITE naboo infantry, clones, and Gungans. This doesn't count the fact the droids have fought other species as well and won! Best of luck next time meat bag! :P

To be fair the Geth can. Being a superior class of droid our using lol. Also those Vamps and Sliders smoke all your attempts running into my forces. staffing runs will be a bitch.

To be fair I did say they were the only 2 good forces on ur side even superior to them stupid vamps, so we might agree that the Geth could possibly be slightly superior to ur B1 battledroid, but they aint out running hypersonic magna guards nor 1k mph destroyer droids, or the supersonic commando droids, but they might be above the B1's :). Staffing runs only work if ure faster, but ure slower, nice try though like I said B1 battledroids move so fast that DUST comes up as shown down below

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Git gud!

I dont see why not. Turians run at peak human speeds which is fast enough to make it to the tree line and buildings. If your argument really is bum rushing my team with slow ass droids in a dash, that makes them out of cover and easy to pick off. I have no qualms as my guys from the tree line take positions there and causally pick yours in the open from safety of cover. None.

See that's the problem, peak human... is only human... not robotic. Let me know when your Turians can move this fast

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and then we will talk! Until then,

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Well thank you kindly. So the plain is your forces get out shot and distracted while my vamp anus rush is still in effect.

Naw much like this cute doggo, my forces are gonna blitz so fast that any "damage" that might happen will have no effect!

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You're welcome though for me giving you some help to even out the score :P

2 mph?

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Peak humans can run as fast as 15 mph. The Vamps are hitting 50-60 mph. Sliders are also hitting 50-60 mph. Geth can run as fast as any Droid.

If this was the great plains of america sure, but this is a dense... unreliable jungle... You never know what might happen and ur sliders can't fly in such clogged out areas because there's no pattern to nature. Meanwhile my droids are already use to the harsh jungles of south america. Do you understand, do you understand the situation that is at hand?

Your forces and my forces

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Plus your vamps are gonna be sweating so badly in this jungle, they won't get the luxury of nice open brown fields of Germany, just jungle instead :P

Show it. Show me one running feat at Hypersonic. Combat speed, sure. Travel Speed? Show me. Ill wait here.

Combat is near lightspeed

Three MagnaGuards, each with a double-ended weapon that generated an energy field impervious to lightsabers, each with reflexes that operated near lightspeed,

-Star Wars: Revenge of the Sith novel

Travel speed look at this right here

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LOOK AT IT! They're moving too fast!

Meh, you may have a point if my team didnt have eyes on yo the whole match. Better weapons and explosives as well.

How are they gonna see us when they can't detect us, plus our magna guards have lightsaber proof weapons. That out does anything ur team has :D

I never said they run 10mph.

I did, what you gonna do about it jerk! huehue

Im out of shape from my Navy Seabee days, but I assure you I can move my ass over 10mph. I still run. Plus, they can technically carry me. Im not ashamed.

Not one bit ashamed.

Feats or it doesnt exist hahahahaha

( dont worry i figured one of ur forces would pick u up even the vamps )

Genome Soldiers are super human special forces. Easily in the 15-20 mph range. Plus they dont have to move fully to their destination. Their only job is covering the flanks. They also have invisible stealth and grenades. Super Senses to boot.

Impressive, but it wont be enough

:01-1:15 we see the B1, B2, and Commando droids ambush by half ass rebel forces with no stealth and little training in a open city. Hell a tank moving at several mph rams unaware Droids. Genomes will wreck your B1 Droid or even Commando Droids in ambushes in the trees. I dont see Drodekies or B2s fairing well speed wise through thick trees either. The key factors is Turians, sliders, Geth gunning down the Droids rushing the opening, and my Vamps getting you literally in the rear.

I will raise u with

Droids/commandos getting the drop on clones

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Droids doing the same to a Clone outpost

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Check and mate!

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Making your limited in number forces in the proverbial phrase "fish in the barrel".

Only non super dense thicc Gforce experienced users would think so, but this has worked especially even in your favorite sci fi setting. Let me quote it for you :P

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Genomes can multitask. If they dont have time to plant, they can refocuse on just firing and grenading your forces. All your dorids have shit sensors and been stealth by clones fine.

Already prove my droids can sneak up in plain sight, and my has much better sensors than yours, it was proven when they out sensed a jedi and some clones! :)

Are you splitting your Magnagaurds? You only have 5. Or you focusing on one flank? Which one? Hope they dont run into the Vamps where they get wrecked by a equal foe. Hard to block AOE explosives from super sonic Vamps.

No they're racing down the middle and gonna sit and ambush ur slow moving forces before they get to the place. Your sensors can't sense them cause they're simply too fast. It'd look alike like this

https://youtu.be/MDpuTqBI0RM?t=29

You know cause Magnaguards be breaking the sound barriers of space and time yo! hahaha

The Jedi easy out maneuver them in your gif with burst of super speed.

But with that super speed, they ran away knowing they stood no chance, and blaster bolts are faster than ak rounds, since blaster bolts are lightspeed! Come on man we settled this 20 pages ago huehue

They will easily avoid the Droiedkies, and all they have to do is sthrow massive ordance in Panzerfaust and Stickbombs to your general location. The amount of fire and shrapnel will kill you quick. all the force fields bubble around you wont save ya from damage from above. Also those shields dont work well at all vs slower physical objects.

They work good enough for bombs and panzerfausts though because as shown down below

https://youtu.be/Di1SeBABVyc?t=60

In other words ur bombs and panzerfausts vs me

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You have to move at less than 1mph to get inside otherwise u lose. How's it feel to come so close but fail nevertheless don't worry if I find you first, I might spare you :)

3:04. As Anakin himself states the shields stop high velocity weapons like blasters, those hypersonic to lightspeed projectiles. However, as shown grenades, and very likely the slower Panzerfaust, will by pass the shields fine anyway. So oof.

True, but if that was the case they wouldn't need to slowly roll the nades, they'd simply throw at them like the gungans throw their balls, so check and mate! :)

As I said the drive by will be fast, and all that explosives will by pass the shields anyway.

My counter is no!

They dont need to know a weakness, the tactic will work with knowledge or not.

If anakin needs it and hes the chosen one surrounded by plot armor, then they need it haha

3d is overrated its why no one likes 3d games or movies. Though throwing forces in the meat grinder as you state you will is not 3d chess. I might be playing checkers but your playing Chutes and Ladders ;)

You're right 3D Chess is overrated, but do you know what's not overrated, 4D Chess! If I'm playing Chutes and Ladders, then you're playing Candy land good sir :P

I dont know, I been in many crisis and never panic before, and seeing your forces casually gun down is not really intimidating.

But have u been in a robot crisis before, no? Here let me show you the result :)

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very much you will be like lol.

Lol you know that made me laugh pretty good hahaha

That made me laugh. I have to use that one someday lol.

Do it! When you do tag me lol

The omega Roger Roger Counter Gameplan!

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Alright, so as we covered. Drodekeis shields wont stop the Vamps tactic. Check. Your team is shot like fish in a barrel. Check. So far on track. Let me sum up your plan.

I like your plan. Sure it will work out as well as it did this group lol.

Destroyer droid shields are far beyond ur comprehension for they can stop everything but something going at 1mph! Meaning ur vamp tactics are absolutely useless! As shown up above with grenades that move even 2mph will be stopped in their tracks. Mixed with droideka blasters they can visualize ur much slower vampires and since my Bob's already have a gameplan, a plan that has been programmed into the Droideka's mind, this means ur vamps will be dancing! :D

My Game plan is the superior plan, you shall not deny it! :P Say it with me,

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P.S Those willy memes are priceless hahaha

In the end the result is the same, I only but had to clear up any hickups that came across my desk of work!

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@mordhauextreme1: Dont worry, been busy at work. I have some time tomorrow to get to this though. So far the battle plan is going to look alot like this.

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Pretty accurate how the fight goes.

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this is the best thread I have ever seen