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#1  Edited By tethadam

All stats are equal except Skill.

Hulk Vs Doomsday

Thor Vs Superman

Zod Vs Vision

Nam-ek Vs Kurse

Faora Vs Hela

Wonder Woman Vs Valkyrie

Aquaman Vs Thanos

Batman Vs Captain America

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Hulk can talk and think and use weapons.

Thor's an immortal warrior, Clark's a farm boy.

Zod.

Tie? They both seem like generic brutes.

Toss-up.

Wonder Woman, she's explicitly the most skilled warrior from an island of immortal warrior women.

Aquaman is comparable to Orm, who's apparently an 8th dan martial art, so him I guess.

Batman.

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#3  Edited By Eri_Joni

Hulk Vs Doomsday

Thor Vs Superman

Zod Vs Vision

Nam-ek Vs Kurse

Faora Vs Hela

Wonder Woman Vs Valkyrie

Aquaman Vs Thanos

Batman Vs Captain America I have no idea.

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Hulk is a trained warrior who was a not-so-dumb-brute (like doomsday) even before the training. Doomsday has a size advantage and if it's post nuke then heat vision advantage. Doomsday has better healing while hulk can get stronger with anger. Can go either way, slight advantage to hulk if pre nuke and doomsday if post nuke.

Thor handily. Standard gear allows potential one shot weapon, massively superior skill plus lightning gives Thor a big advantage while heat vision won't do much.

Zod is more skilled and a better fighter but vision's unique powerset allows him to damage zod while being undamaged himself. Zod cannot prevent him from going intangible and vision's beam is more powerful than heat vision. Going with vision.

Kurse seems atleast a bit skilled unlike Nam-ek. But the Kryptonian can leap and charge. Can go either way. Slight advantage to kurse.

Faora is skilled but so is Hela, probably moreso. Her healing factor is way better and she has ranged attacks unlike the Kryptonian. Hela wins without problems.

Both are incredibly skilled on paper, but for me Diana is incredibly underwhelming in skill so far. While Valkyrie has actually fought a superior opponent with one shot weapons and remained alive (although with help) and was able to keep up with Loki and overwhelmed him. So I'd say she has a big skill advantage despite Diana's "supposed" skills. But gear wise, she's outclassed. Both have potential one shot weapons but Diana has ranged options (lasso), a shield to block while allowing sword strikes of her own, bracelets to block and potentially disarm her. Then there's the godly energy shockwave that can be a potential game changer and bridge the skill gap. Going with wonder woman.

Aquaman and Thanos are both highly skilled. But Arthur has a reach advantage and a weapon advantage with an armor piercing trident while Thanos has a size advantage. If the battle takes place near water or in rain, Arthur would win without question. In dry land though, I'd give Arthur a very slight advantage. Let's see if endgame changes it.

Cap seems more skilled while bats has better gear. I think it depends on where the fight takes place. Though I'd back cap more often than not

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Why are the stats equalized?

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1. Two brutes. Hulk definitely has higher intelligence, but stats are equal so it doesn't matter here. I'll say Doomsday completely because of his reach advantage over Hulk.

2. Thor, definitely.

3. Zod, definitely.

4. This is a toss-up, but I'll say Nam-Ek because of his reach advantage. Kurse didn't show as much skill as he did a high pain tolerance and endurance.

5. This is close. I can see both replicating what the other did in their respective scenes apart from the extra abilities. I'll say a draw for now.

6. Diana, definitely.

7. Thanos, due to reach. Both are skilled, though.

8. I'm siding with Cap on this one.

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Hulk, Thor, Vision (close one), Nam-ek, Hela, Valkyrie (close one), Aquaman, Captain America (close one)

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@nightgate: Because OP literally asks who's more skilled in CQC on each matchup.

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@anthp2000: Fair enough, I was just asking because “speed equalized” has come across to me as, if speed is not equalized then the slower character gets stomped.

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Aquaman can't beat Thanos even in the MCU....

Give him gallons of water,he still can't

MCU thanos easily destroyed vibranium,killed off entire planets,beat down the hulk,took a beating and only had minimal damage,actually won against the heroes. "Arthur has a trident" which won't do shit against Thanos because he LITERALLY CONTROLS TIME AND REALITY

Why do people vote AQ? Smh

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#11  Edited By krisbishop  Moderator

Hulk Vs Doomsday - Hulk. He has some level of basic intelligence and has fought in gladiator pits.

Thor Vs Superman - Thor. Warrior with over a thousand years of experience. Not close.

Zod Vs Vision - Zod. Kryptonian war general vs some robot. Not close.

Nam-Ek Vs Kurse - Nam-Ek. Kryptonian war fighter under Zod.

Faora Vs Hela - Unsure. 50/50.

Wonder Woman Vs Valkyrie - Probably Diana.

Aquaman Vs Thanos - Aquaman easy.

Batman Vs Captain America - Cap.

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@tethadam said:

All stats are equal except Skill.

Hulk Vs Doomsday

greenie.

Thor Vs Superman

thor "I have trained for a 1000 years. Where have you trained? On a farm?"

Zod Vs Vision

zod

Nam-ek Vs Kurse

kurse. Easily wastes Thor and redirects mjolnr. Better than all nam ek has done.

Faora Vs Hela

hela in a biggest godstomp in history of godstomps

Wonder Woman Vs Valkyrie

prolly WW

Aquaman Vs Thanos

thanos stomps

Batman Vs Captain America

cap

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@nightgate: because putting Doomsday without stats equalised is a massive monster stomp

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Hulk Vs Doomsday

Thor Vs Superman

Zod Vs Vision

Nam-ek Vs Kurse

Faora Vs Hela

Wonder Woman Vs Valkyrie - The closest one imo.

Aquaman Vs Thanos

Batman Vs Captain America

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Hulk

Thor

Zod

Nam-Ek

Hela

Diana

Aquaman

Cap

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Hulk

Thor

Zod

Nam-Ek

Hela

Diana

Thanos (Purely down to how he threw those hands on the Hulk)

Captain America

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@apex_pretador: Wonder Woman kept up with Doomsday and Steppenwolf due to skill.

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Hulk Vs Doomsday - HULK

Thor Vs Superman - THOR

Zod Vs Vision - ZOD

Nam-ek Vs Kurse - NAM-EK

Faora Vs Hela - HELA

Wonder Woman Vs Valkyrie - VALKYRIE

Aquaman Vs Thanos - THANOS

Batman Vs Captain America - BATMAN

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@the_hajduk: wonder woman kept up with doomsday due to superman and steppenwolf due to superior speed.

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@the_hajduk: wonder woman kept up with doomsday due to superman and steppenwolf due to superior speed.

Steppenwolf himself survived a battle with Doomsday in the past, and Wonder Woman was certainly more skilled then him.

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@the_hajduk: So did batfleck.

Wonder woman was faster, and steppenwolf was still tagging her, so I'm not sure how she's more skilled

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@tethadam said:

All stats are equal except Skill.

Hulk Vs Doomsday, Hulk because unlike DD he actually can think and speak.

Thor Vs Superman, Thor have beaten bunch of SHIELD’s agents with ease.

Zod Vs Vision, Zod for sure he was made to be a warrior and a military General for Krypton.

Nam-ek Vs Kurse

Faora Vs Hela, I actually think this can go either way, Faora showed her martial art skill when she was fighting supes but Hela solo’d the entire Asgard.

Wonder Woman Vs Valkyrie, WW by far.

Aquaman Vs Thanos, I have to give it to Thanos for sure after he beat Hulk with ease and how he could slip and punch boxing style was incredible to watch.

Batman Vs Captain America, This is a tough call, Captain America fighting Bucky in the highway was the best fight scene on par with Thanos vs Hulk, these were the only fight scenes with none shaky camera and 2 second cut transitions, and Batman‘s fight scene in the warehouse was undoubtedly the best i’ve seen in superhero movies, of course Zack Snyder directed it, he did the same thing in the Watchmen too.

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1. Two brutes. Hulk definitely has higher intelligence, but stats are equal so it doesn't matter here. I'll say Doomsday completely because of his reach advantage over Hulk.

2. Thor, definitely.

3. Zod, definitely.

4. This is a toss-up, but I'll say Nam-Ek because of his reach advantage. Kurse didn't show as much skill as he did a high pain tolerance and endurance.

5. This is close. I can see both replicating what the other did in their respective scenes apart from the extra abilities. I'll say a draw for now.

6. Diana, definitely.

7. Thanos, due to reach. Both are skilled, though.

8. I'm siding with Cap on this one.

This, except I think Hela is more skilled than Faora.

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1. Two brutes. Hulk definitely has higher intelligence, but stats are equal so it doesn't matter here. I'll say Doomsday completely because of his reach advantage over Hulk.

2. Thor, definitely.

3. Zod, definitely.

4. This is a toss-up, but I'll say Nam-Ek because of his reach advantage. Kurse didn't show as much skill as he did a high pain tolerance and endurance.

5. This is close. I can see both replicating what the other did in their respective scenes apart from the extra abilities. I'll say a draw for now.

6. Diana, definitely.

7. Thanos, due to reach. Both are skilled, though.

8. I'm siding with Cap on this one.

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1. Two brutes. Hulk definitely has higher intelligence, but stats are equal so it doesn't matter here. I'll say Doomsday completely because of his reach advantage over Hulk.

2. Thor, definitely.

3. Zod, definitely.

4. This is a toss-up, but I'll say Nam-Ek because of his reach advantage. Kurse didn't show as much skill as he did a high pain tolerance and endurance.

5. This is close. I can see both replicating what the other did in their respective scenes apart from the extra abilities. I'll say a draw for now.

6. Diana, definitely.

7. Thanos, due to reach. Both are skilled, though.

8. I'm siding with Cap on this one.

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@tethadam said:

All stats are equal except Skill.

Hulk Vs Doomsday

Thor Vs Superman

Zod Vs Vision

Nam-ek Vs Kurse

Faora Vs Hela

Wonder Woman Vs Valkyrie

Aquaman Vs Thanos

Batman Vs Captain America

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Hulk Vs Doomsday HULK

Thor Vs Superman THOR

Zod Vs Vision ZOD

Nam-ek Vs Kurse KURSE

Faora Vs Hela HELA

Wonder Woman Vs Valkyrie WONDER WOMAN

Aquaman Vs Thanos THANOS

Batman Vs Captain America CAPTAIN AMERICA

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Hulk Vs Doomsday - Hulk has plenty of experience on Sakaar, Doomsday has no skill at all

Thor Vs Superman - Thor is a much older warrior with experience and feats, Superman has received no formal training

Zod Vs Vision - Zod's a trained warrior, Vision hasn't demonstrated much skill in the movies

Nam-ek Vs Kurse - Neither are particularly skilled, but Nam-Ek was even more brutish

Faora Vs Hela - Her showings against Thor & Valkyrie are enough

Wonder Woman Vs Valkyrie - Wonder Woman has a lot of potential, but for now she lacks skill feats whereas Valkyrie scales from Loki

Aquaman Vs Thanos - The closest match here, but I don't think that the skill gap between Arthur & Hulk would be as large as it was between Thanos & Hulk (though Arthur does have some good feats)

Batman Vs Captain America - His elevator fight and showing against Black Panther are not feats that Bruce has the skill for at all

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Hulk Vs Doomsday = Both are brawlers but Hulk was able to land hits on the much more skilled Thor. He would win.

Thor Vs Superman = Thor slaughters so badly it's not even funny.

Zod Vs Vision = More skilled.

Nam-ek Vs Kurse = With equal stats Nam-ek takes a slight majority due to being former military as opposed to Kurse's brawler style, but it's very close.

Faora Vs Hela = Hela slaughters. Her showings against Thor alone give her the win. Throw in her army feat and she stomps.

Wonder Woman Vs Valkyrie = Tough fight. Valkyrie held her own for a time against Hela who's more skilled than WW but Diana has more skill showings.

Aquaman Vs Thanos = Thanos' humiliating a post Sakaar Hulk impressed me more than anything Arthur's done tbh.

Batman Vs Captain America = Cap stomps.

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Hulk wrecks, Thor wrecks, Zod beats his ass down, Nam-Ek probably, Hela stomps, toss-up (leaning Valk), Thanos, Cap murderstomps

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All stats are equal except Skill.

Hulk Vs Doomsday

Thor Vs Superman

Zod Vs Vision

Nam-ek Vs Kurse

Faora Vs Hela

Wonder Woman Vs Valkyrie

Aquaman Vs Thanos

Batman Vs Captain America

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@supremegeneration: How does Thanos have better skill feats than Aquaman?

Thanos straight up throwing punches and slipping like a boxer, while Aquaman fought most with his trident.. IMO

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@supremegeneration: How does Thanos have better skill feats than Aquaman?

I might be blanking on Arthur (been a while since JL and wasn't particularly impressed by anything in AM, unless I'm forgetting some good ones), but beating down Hulk the way Thanos did is not something I can see Aquabro doing.

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@supremegeneration: And what skill feats does Hulk really have? At best you can use that Sakaar statement that he was an undefeated champion but even then, in the Thor fight we literally see the Grandmaster rigging it for him so you never know how things went down. Arthur effortlessly taking down 3 Elite Atlanteans armed with swords while surrounded is much better than anything Thanos had done.

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@rbt said:

All stats are equal except Skill.

Hulk Vs Doomsday

Thor Vs Superman

Zod Vs Vision

Nam-ek Vs Kurse

Faora Vs Hela

Wonder Woman Vs Valkyrie

Aquaman Vs Thanos

Batman Vs Captain America

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Im legit confused at this thread.

Captain America's ONLY saving grace in the MCU is his physicals. Literally everybody else including hawkeye would slaughter him had he not had the injection.

Bats is a human monster. He'd utterly humilate Cap in a H2H.

Thanos has ZERO showings of skill. Aquaman slaughters.

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Hulk, Thor, Vision, Nam-Ek, Hela, 50/50, 50/50, Captain America.

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#43  Edited By helloman

MCU sweeps.

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Why do people think Thanos is more skilled than Aquaman?

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@hudyman: if you don't think Cap is skilled you need to watch his movies again, Batman has only fought against fodder that showed no skill, Cap fought against Crossbones, Bucky and that guy in the beginning of the Winter Solider movie where he showed skill

Thanos showed good skill against Hulk and fought blindfolded for a while, saying he's shown 0 skill is incredibly wrong, I do believe Aquaman is more skilled tho

Your post is the most confusing one in this thread so far

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#46  Edited By MrTrey

Not a single other CBM character has shown this amount of skill because their choreography is nowhere near as good.

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These mercs don't just run at a guy 1 or 2 at a time without even shooting or just shoot at his shield like just about every time Cap fights.

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@mrtrey: I gotta agree. Batman had the most competent fodder we've seen in years, while Cap's just run at him waiting for an attack. But that doesn't change the fact that Cap is skilled. He did fight people who showed skill after all. And his best show of skill in my opinion was the elevator scene.

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@eri123:

I agree with this aside from the Aquaman vs Thanos I've where Aquaman has out skilled better characters than Thanos.

The only way Thor can beat Clark is with all stats equalised.

And the rest are somewhat obvious.

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@alavanka: That Keysi-based fighting bothered me in that I feel Batman wouldn't actually fight that way. Mreh.