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#51  Edited By cody1984

Punisher wins both. If this was Ultimate Hawkeye it might go differently but 616 Hawkeye vs. 616 Punisher is going to lose to Frank.

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#52  Edited By Stronger

@Nefarious said:

Round 1: I'd say Punisher. Round 2: Eh, Punisher.
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#54  Edited By Army2442

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#55  Edited By Megabeast1

I say punisher wins both

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#56  Edited By gravitypress

1) Punisher - He would take an arrow or three but he wouldn't mind.

2) Punisher - with prep could give Batman with prep a run for his money. Prep is how he usually works.

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#57  Edited By Ferro Vida

Punisher's black ops experience is really what gives him the win here.

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#58  Edited By crabtree

Draw

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#59  Edited By Ferro Vida
@crabtree: How do you figure?
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#60  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@Ferro Vida said:

Punisher's black ops experience is really what gives him the win here.

I'll counter with "CAP TRAINING, BRO!"

But honestly, I think Hawkeye takes the direct / bloodlust encounter, but I'd favor Frank's training for the prep battle.

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#61  Edited By Ferro Vida
@k4tzm4n: I saw it playing out more as a game of hide and seek, which is why I think Frank would take that round too. If it's straight up combat then Hawkeye would probably be able to kill Punisher pretty quickly.
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When in doubt, guns over arrows.

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#63  Edited By Ferro Vida
@Shamelesslysupportinaznballers: Arrows are actually capable of more force and stopping power then a lot of guns.
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#64  Edited By spystreak

considering Punisher's standard equipment usually includes an M60 machine gun or M16A3 assault rifle with underslung grenade launcher I say he takes it

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@Ferro Vida said:

@Shamelesslysupportinaznballers: Arrows are actually capable of more force and stopping power then a lot of guns.

Tell that to the native Americans.

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#66  Edited By Ferro Vida
@Shamelesslysupportinaznballers: ... Because that has ANYTHING to do with the effectiveness of bows and arrows. The sheer difference in numbers and, I dunno, small pox had nothing to do with it. 
 
English longbowmen were much more effective then riflemen. They had better reach, more stopping power, and more force behind the attack. But it's easy to teach anyone to use a rifle. A longbow takes years of training and a lot of strength to use properly.  
 
A firing range today has paper targets. An archery range today tends to have concrete ones, because an arrow fired from a composite longbow will embed itself in concrete.
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@Ferro Vida: are you really going to argue that bows are the superior weapons to guns?

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#68  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@Shamelesslysupportinaznballers: In the right hands and in a comic book, yes, they can be.

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@k4tzm4n said:

@Shamelesslysupportinaznballers: In the right hands and in a comic book, yes, they can be.

Well if that's the case, i'm going to make a case for a deck of cards, toothpick & rock as the most deadliest weapon of all then. We should all give marines those 3 things along w/bows and arrows and take their guns away. Maybe that would have ended our wars quicker.

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#70  Edited By Ferro Vida
@Shamelesslysupportinaznballers: Did I say that at any point? I made my case very clear, that a composite bow, or a low bow has more power and can be more accurate then some guns (not ALL guns, some guns). At no point did I say it was a better weapon. There are advantages to using a bow (stopping power, accuracy, and stealth), but that by no means makes it a better weapon. 
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#71  Edited By k4tzm4n  Moderator

@Shamelesslysupportinaznballers: My dispute isn't which weapon is superior, just that in comics a skilled combatant with a bow will be superior to someone who isn't exceptionally skilled with a firearm. This has been proven for decades now with characters like Hawkeye and Green Arrow. And yeah, Lester is an example that throwing weapons in the right hands can even prove superior to firearms.

It's a comic book, not real life. These are simply established facts in that universe. In the right hands, a firearm isn't always going to win a battle. Clint beating multiple gunmen or even a guy with a minigun should suffice as proof. If not, I recommend all of Green Arrow's comics...ever. lol

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@k4tzm4n: @Ferro Vida:

Like i said, when in doubt, guns over arrows. I don't understand the need to argue against that statement. Sure some bow & arrows are better than some guns like maybe a BB gun, Airsoft guns, water guns. In 99 out of 100...no wait, 100 out of 100 situations, I will take a gun over a bow. Unless said gun of course is a water gun.

So If you have 2 pretty even combatants, I will take the guy holding the superior weapon.

I also understand that in comics it doesn't matter. Bullseye with a rock is scarier than Rocket Raccoon with a rocket. But you know what would be scarier than Bullseye with a rock? Bullseye with a bow an arrow. You know what's scarier than that? Bullseye with a gun.

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#73  Edited By Ferro Vida
@Shamelesslysupportinaznballers: You can do what you want. I'm not trying to change your opinion, I'm telling facts about archery. Clearly my efforts are wasted, but that doesn't change that I haven't said anything false concerning this.
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#74  Edited By kajitatsu

First round Hawkeye 6 or 7/10, his acrobatic background should help him get the best of a new environment. Punisher would prep something insane (overkill?) in round 2 and win that 9/10.

@Shamelesslysupportinaznballers: Actually Bullseye prefers using his hands to launch projectiles, he complains about the inaccuracy of shooting instruments.

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#75  Edited By Beerhappy

@Shamelesslysupportinaznballers said:

When in doubt, guns over arrows.

This - all day long.

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#76  Edited By jojjimbo

1. whomever shoots first wins.

2. whomever shoots first wins. ; )

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#77  Edited By Teerack

Round 1 Hawkeye 
 
Round 2 Punisher.

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#78  Edited By Army2442

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from 200 meters away hawkeye

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#80  Edited By 14NC3

@__anubis__ said:

Hawkeye definitly takes 1 round, in a stomp actually

round 2 goes to Punisher 8/10

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Punisher .

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Round one goes to Hawkeye due to his trick arrows. Even on a random encounter that's like dealing with Batman who has his standard belt.... historically, on a random encounter, he could pull who knows what out of there. I could see him busting out some kind of standard aoe type arrow. It stuns Punisher and the follow up shot ends the fight.

Round 2 goes to Punisher. With two days of prep it's anyone's guess how much tonnage in explosives he's got rigged, but whatever it is it's enough. Hawkeye goes down and abandoned New York get's blown sky high.

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#83  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

Frank was gonna shoot Clint in the leg. Then he took an arrow to the knee. Then he shot him in the face instead.

Round 1: I can see it going either. Frank doesn't have the versatility Clint or agility does, but is arguably a good enough marksman to compete very closely with him IMO. Considering Frank has been stated to pull his shots on heroes, here he doesn't need that. Especially, when you consider that Daredevil has said that Frank can tag him if he wishes, he's shot Spider-Man, and he's also tagged both Wolverine and Daken. I don't think that means every shot Frank takes will hit his opponent, meaning that Wolverine, Spider-Man, and Daredevil, and possibly Hawkeye since he is very agile himself, can dodge him, but those guys are also faster and more agile than Clint. So it depends if he can get a shot on before Clint pulls an explosive arrow or something which I think he can. Who takes the round just depends who can get it 6 times instead of 4.

Round 2: Frank.

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Punisher Both Rounds.

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1-hawkeye cuz he has trick arrows like the pym arrow

2- punisher...and im a hawkeye fan

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Why would accuracy be of any adventage, all Frank needs to do is run straight at hawkeye guns a blazing and he is screwed.

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Round 1. Punisher.

Round 2. Punisher easy, he can create special built bombs to blow him up

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i am going with the guy who took down an armed man with some chopsticks.

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Round 1 hawkeye

Round 2 punisher

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Hawk eye For the Battle

Hawk Eye for the war

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Punisher ftw

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@stronger said:

@Nefarious said:

Round 1: I'd say Punisher. Round 2: Eh, Punisher.

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Hawkeye both rounds as round one I think Punisher would get incapacitated by Hawkeye's non lethal arrows & round 2 this happens

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hawk eye is losing to everyone on comicvine and some people actually think that cyclops would beat clint in a one on one fight pure bs im going to give it to hawkeye being that he needs a win and i never seen anyone vote in his favor just remember hawkeye defeated taskmaster all by himself

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punisher

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I'd back Hawkeye for rd 1. Better marksman. Versatility through trick arrows.

I'd back Punisher for rd 2. Frank makes use of claymores and other boobytraps.

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Round 1 Hawkeye 8/10

Round 2 Punisher 6/10