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#1 Edited by HATSoffMELO (2555 posts) - - Show Bio
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  • they just challenged Protege to a Battle after showing him ALL there Abilities

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#2 Posted by EcoBlitz (5285 posts) - - Show Bio

EGDB looks at him

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#3 Posted by CaoCao (1778 posts) - - Show Bio
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#4 Posted by dailywheattoast (107 posts) - - Show Bio

@ecoblitz: he had a good fight with the pre retcon beyounder though

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#5 Posted by greenroost (1381 posts) - - Show Bio

mismatch

protege < both of them

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#6 Edited by Sungsam (3209 posts) - - Show Bio

Featherine can very well deal with Protege, but Demonbane cannot.

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#7 Posted by Yasindermann (1251 posts) - - Show Bio

@sungsam: 10-D (Demonbane)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Horizontal 8-D (Umineko)

No, just made fun. Elder god Demonbane is just a infinite baseline multiverse buster and not an infinite-dimensional being, because....Ok, I stop, that Demonbane isn't infinite-dimensional was debunked trans-infinite times. Protege when he absorbed the powers of LT, the marvel verse was already infinite-dimensional. That she absorbed the power of LT would automatically scale her to baseline infinite-dimensional. But still get's stomped by Featherine, because even when we use the mid-balled Umineko cosmology, she goes infinite beyond infinite-dimensional (double infinite-dimensional).

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#8 Posted by cosmic_reign (3705 posts) - - Show Bio

Obviously Protege

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#9 Posted by Soratoumiga (3764 posts) - - Show Bio

Either can solo.

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#10 Posted by Supermanthor (21731 posts) - - Show Bio

@sungsam said:

Featherine can very well deal with Protege, but Demonbane cannot.

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#11 Edited by cosmic_reign (3705 posts) - - Show Bio

@soratoumiga said:

Either can solo.

OP says team shows Protege ALL their abilities...Proteges mimicking powers are stackable...

How does either one solo?

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#12 Posted by Sungsam (3209 posts) - - Show Bio

@soratoumiga said:

Either can solo.

OP says team shows Protege ALL their abilities, and Proteges mimicking powers are stackable...

How does either one solo?

That does change everything does it? If Protege copies all of Featherine and Demonbane's powers stacked, then if he knows how to use it, it could very well end in a win or a stalemate for him. If he cannot master it, then he fails.

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#13 Posted by Soratoumiga (3764 posts) - - Show Bio

@cosmic_reign: I missed that part, I thought it was just a standard fight. But as @sungsam stated, if he can use their powers properly, master them and use them to his advantage, he can possibly win, otherwise he doesn't. And since Protege is basically an unstable child lol, I still back the team, regardless of the fact that Protege already has their powers.

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#14 Posted by cosmic_reign (3705 posts) - - Show Bio

@cosmic_reign: I missed that part, I thought it was just a standard fight. But as @sungsam stated, if he can use their powers properly, master them and use them to his advantage, he can possibly win, otherwise he doesn't. And since Protege is basically an unstable child lol, I still back the team, regardless of the fact that Protege already has their powers.

Protege does NOT need to learn how to properly use powers he mimics, he simply copies it. Like how he neutralized Beyonders attacks instantly.

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Protege ftw!

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#15 Posted by Sungsam (3209 posts) - - Show Bio

@soratoumiga said:

@cosmic_reign: I missed that part, I thought it was just a standard fight. But as @sungsam stated, if he can use their powers properly, master them and use them to his advantage, he can possibly win, otherwise he doesn't. And since Protege is basically an unstable child lol, I still back the team, regardless of the fact that Protege already has their powers.

Protege does NOT need to learn how to properly use powers he mimics, he simply copies it. Like how he neutralized Beyonders attacks instantly.

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Protege ftw!

Okay then. He wins. Or Stalemates.

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#16 Posted by gabrielthelord (168 posts) - - Show Bio

@yasindermann:

Elder God Demonbane has a reputation for being undoubtedly one of the most hax and overpowered beings in fiction. The final and most powerful form of Demonbane, literally a sentient Elder God with whom Azathoth can not even deal, as well as possessing the madness of Gunshin Kyoshuu Demonbane, EGD also receives a night-author talent level invocation technique that has been generally brought as his trump card, which basically does of all that is an irrelevant topic. We'll see just how powerful in a little bit. Destructive capacity:

Demonbane, by this point, is an order of magnitude above the other Demonbanes. With Demon God War destroying universes by brushing against them (and was larger than a multiverse), while Zanmataisei Demonbane was playing around infinite heat / energy, Elder God Demonbane is casually multiversal in his destructive ability, working on power scale and Athleta Aeternum .

Durability:

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Implication that even Azathoth, the embodiment of all existence, can not kill Demonbane.

In addition, the staging of powers based on War God Demonbane takes you to a casual level of destruction of the multiverse, with the Brilliant Trapéziozrons adding to it. In addition, Demonbane Athleta Aeternum = a Demonbane that can not receive damage, a Demonbane that had endless durability and things of sorts.

Skills / Attacks:

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the infamous Athleta Aeternum. One of the most broken invocation techniques in fiction, this invokes an infinite number of Demonbane's, both possible and impossible. A Demonbane with no possibilities, a Demonbane who was God, a Demonbane who was not even a Demonbane, a Demonbane who brought an infinite army, etc. etc. What is evident here is that we have a very powerful movement here. How powerful?

Well, it is impossible to argue that this does not apply to your own universe. The tale encompasses infinite demonbanos, therefore infinite possibilities. Based on this, Liber Legis, Nyarlthoptep, Yog-Sogoth, Azathoth and the other mysterious Elder Gods? These are all Demonbane settings, and given their + multiversal nature, these guys certainly put Demonbane at the cutting edge fiction level. However, what does not seem to be supported is the rather popular claim that Demonbane Athleta Aeternum constitutes for other fictions beyond his own. This not only infringes intellectual property, but also makes no sense.

So to summarize this move in a TL; DR, Demonbane has a summon attack that invokes Demonbane's endless possibilities, including those senseless ones, as well as those that are other characters in the series.

http://prntscr.com/eaatsh

Evidence that Elder God Demonbane is Azathoth, or at least an avatar. ^^

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About the creation / apotheosis of Elder God Demonbane.

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A much more powerful impact of Lemuria, Impact of Lemuria: Ain Soph Aur releases an infinite amount of infinite bouts of the Big Bang level, sublimating an infinite collection of universes.

On top of all that, the power scale also includes War God Demonbane's size / hax, as well as other fun things like De Marigny's Clock and Shining Trapezohedron, both of which will be covered later.

To really understand Demonbane, we need to talk about Azathoth.

Azathoth:

The blind idiot god. The Demon Sultan A monstrous nuclear chaos beyond existence. Existence itself. You've probably heard of it. As in regular Cthulhu Mythos, Azathoth is the god who is the universe / multiverse / megaverse dream as we know it. Although this does not prevent Elder God Demonbane, he is certainly one of the most powerful beings, albeit inadvertently, of Demonbane. Let's do it. Also note how this is going to be a short post thanks to the lack of talents / information about Azathoth.

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A passage proving that the Demonath Azathoth is an analog (existential) of Lovecraft Azathoth. In addition, there are things like Azathoth particles (see EGD posts).

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A little bit about some of its capabilities, which EGD is using at the time. Also the proof that Trapéziozon Brilhante himself is a manifestation of him, or at least sanctioned by him in some way. This increases your power by a lot, albeit to an unknown degree.

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More proof that Azathoth dreamed the whole reality of Demonbane, and is its ruler.

YOG-SOTHOTH another outer god.

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As the first quote from Azathoth, Demonbane Yog-Sothoth's evidence being an analogue in form, purpose, and power as Yog-Sothoth of Cthulhu Mythos. The evidence also that Yog-Sothoth is omnipresent

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if Yog-Sogoth is greater than the universe, and changes reality (time, space and universe / multiverse) with its mere arrival.

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Its true form, a collection of endless rainbow spheres, is every living thing that exists.

Now, about the skills that were mentioned above.

TRINZOHEDRON OF BRIGHTNESS:

A window in all space-time, granting its user secrets and arcane insights in exchange for terrible sacrifices, in Demonbane, the Brilliant Trapéziozron is a portal to a prison universe containing the very Azathoth; the court of Azathoth, for those sent there to be tortured for all eternity. While not the most powerful being on the set, perhaps the most powerful offensive weapon. This is the kind of weapon you would take to fight things like Nyarlathoptep.

Structure:

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Brief description of the original Trapézioedro Brilhante. The sword of 'God' (Azathoth), and as evidenced earlier his zeroth seal. Also partially responsible for the Athleta Aeternum of Elder God Demonbane (read: 'This is the pattern woven by the Trapéziozron Shining' - Demonbane Athleta Aeternum).

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The brilliant trapeze anthem.

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All and all things do not exist here, but the Brilliant Trapéziozron is beyond that.

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The great quote commonly attributed to the power of the Brilliant Trapezoid. Very powerful things; dealing with an infinite amount of realities, sealing Azathoth himself.

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Space-time / universe is distorted by the very presence of TS, which exists as a paradox.

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Demonbane prevents an infinite universe from being destroyed through ST.

Nyarlathoptep:

Form of existence:

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Nya, the Nyarlathotep we see in Zanmataisei / Kinshin Houkou Demonbane. is a fragment of Nyarlathotep's actual consciousness / soul. This simply makes everything she does even more impressive.

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Some flowery texts provide a brief description of Nya, and how her human form is used simply because she likes to show her malice and malice to humanity.

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In one of Nya's best (and only) all-time achievements, she reverses time on a multiversal scale and undoes War God Demonbane / Liber Legis, as well as the damage these guys have inflicted. Remember from above those people who survived in places where they could not exist, burst universes by brushing against them, fought in super-super dimensions and where they easily threatened the multiversal level. Nya undid all of them relatively casually.

Klein Bottle:

Made by Nyarlathotep, a sealed multiverse consisting of infinite universes, isolated from all reality and universe out of it. An ideal multiverse, where Demonbane's various engines and shakers (not counting the Elder God Demonbane, of course) are powerless to interfere with his plan. This turns out to be false, it's just that the engines and shakers (ie Elder Gods) could not care less about their Klein Bottle, but still requires multiversal beings to deal with a minimum. However, as Nya directly said that it is nothing more than one of the many worlds under its control and there are many Klein jars throughout the creation. Barring the Elder God Demonbane final, all the finals you can achieve through the visual novel are here.

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Several examples for universes contained in the Klein Bottle, as well as the statement that proves the Klein Bottle contains a series of universes, the repetition ad infinitum, representing all the different possibilities. Think of Ouroboros.

Nya also fought against Elder God Demonbane and lost due to Athleta Aeternum.

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It's above the dimensions

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#17 Edited by Yasindermann (1251 posts) - - Show Bio

@gabrielthelord: Bro, you're Demonbane got debunked trans-infinite times.

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Those are statements from the author. It was here stated from the author that Elder god Demonbane is not an infinite higher dimensional being. So the multiversal destruction from Demonbane would just reffer to one infinite baseline multiverse, combined with the statements of the author. According to my tiering system, it would be just 5th dimensional. So almost all you're arguments are false now. To say Elder God Demonbane can summon an infinite number of impossibilities is just a no limits fallacy and not how VS debates works. Even with such broken abilities, Demonbane must be still gauged by feats and his best feats was to stomp Nyar, which would just make him above the BASELINE 5-dimensional.

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#18 Posted by gabrielthelord (168 posts) - - Show Bio

@yasindermann:

This is the same guy who tweets "I'm unreliable", "It is a mystery" and "I don't know everything about Demonbane", using his fan-responses to downgrade anything shows tremendous bias and a lack of understanding of the very series.

Read the actual novels, play the game, instead of trying to downgrade the Verse based on contradictions. And considering you also tried to upgrade the Presence to Omnipotent, and bypass our Powerscaling Rules for Marvel and DC, and also associate with a certain someone on Google+, I doubt you particularly care for logic and consistency, and instead only want to see a Japanese Character downgraded beyond your favorite comicbook people.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/5/5b/Boundless_Darkness.png/revision/latest?cb=20161029042225

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/0/06/Augustus_Nya.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20161029042049

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/b/ba/Heights_of_Power.png/revision/latest?cb=20161029041215

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/4/40/Beyond_Dimensions_Causality.png/revision/latest?cb=20161029041933

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/6/6e/Dream_Causality.png/revision/latest?cb=20161029042144

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There are many, many more such feats and statements across the Demonbane Series, these are just a few I gathered across the internet. Actually read the story and you'll see how ridiculous saying that they don't transcend dimensions sounds like.

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#19 Edited by Sungsam (3209 posts) - - Show Bio

@gabrielthelord: Those are not good destructive feats. Like, at all. To take on Protege.

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#20 Edited by Yasindermann (1251 posts) - - Show Bio

@gabrielthelord said:

@yasindermann:

This is the same guy who tweets "I'm unreliable", "It is a mystery" and "I don't know everything about Demonbane", using his fan-responses to downgrade anything shows tremendous bias and a lack of understanding of the very series.

Read the actual novels, play the game, instead of trying to downgrade the Verse based on contradictions. And considering you also tried to upgrade the Presence to Omnipotent, and bypass our Powerscaling Rules for Marvel and DC, and also associate with a certain someone on Google+, I doubt you particularly care for logic and consistency, and instead only want to see a Japanese Character downgraded beyond your favorite comicbook people.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/5/5b/Boundless_Darkness.png/revision/latest?cb=20161029042225

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/0/06/Augustus_Nya.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20161029042049

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/b/ba/Heights_of_Power.png/revision/latest?cb=20161029041215

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/4/40/Beyond_Dimensions_Causality.png/revision/latest?cb=20161029041933

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/6/6e/Dream_Causality.png/revision/latest?cb=20161029042144

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There are many, many more such feats and statements across the Demonbane Series, these are just a few I gathered across the internet. Actually read the story and you'll see how ridiculous saying that they don't transcend dimensions sounds like.

No, he couldn't simply speak english, so he asked his fans what exactly they mean.

First scan: MuH OuTvErSaL, He TrAnScEnD tHe CoNcEpT oF tImE aNd SpAcE. In Demonbane, DC & Marvel or anything, there isn't a thing like ''outversal'', so this argument is false. Beside from that, you're ''good'' outversal system ignores every kind of dimensional scaling and cosmology size. If you're above every concept in an 3-dimensional space, you're stronger than a infinite-dimensional being, according to outversal logic. Like I said, Demonbane just transcend a LOWER and FINITE dimensions.

And no, not this ''beyond dimensions'' crap. With ''beyond dimensions'' in the scan, it just implies that demonbane goes beyond his FINITE dimensional cosmology. Nothing more.

You're delusional. Get some help.

@zgtfreak@sungsam We found another outversalist!

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#21 Edited by Sungsam (3209 posts) - - Show Bio

@gabrielthelord: Your accusation that it's a mystery fake account is very stupid because J_Hagane gives updates on Demonbane stuff that are actually accurate and gave snippets to Demonbane games before they were released that could only have been by him. Every Demonbanefan in Japan knows this is the real Hagayane if you go to a Japanese forum discussing it. Just ask Ninja Dog from Spacebattles (who is Japanese). Lel

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Demonbane's Multiverse is only Near Infinite, this is proven in the fact that Vortex Destroyer Demonbane took destroying Infinity -1 Universes to destroy the whole setting to just 1 Universe.

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#22 Posted by Yasindermann (1251 posts) - - Show Bio

@gabrielthelord:

and bypass our Powerscaling Rules for Marvel and DC

What fucking rules? Rules from VS battle wiki? Do you really think I give a shit on a site, which has their own delusional illogical tiering system, which would make their tiering system not better than a fan fiction? Dude, seriously....stop.

@sungsam Many outversalists are still around here, lol.

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#23 Posted by gabrielthelord (168 posts) - - Show Bio

@sungsam : show me the site or the argument that he is the actor

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#24 Posted by gabrielthelord (168 posts) - - Show Bio

@yasindermann: show me the site or the argument that he is the actor

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#25 Posted by Supermanthor (21731 posts) - - Show Bio

Hulk smash

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#26 Posted by Sungsam (3209 posts) - - Show Bio

@sungsam : show me the site or the argument that he is the actor

Are you stupid? Thousands of Japanese twitter accounts follow and like his shit.

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They fucking KNOW it's him. It's only you Demonbane wankers who aren't even Japanese at all who deny it is him.

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#27 Posted by CaoCao (1778 posts) - - Show Bio

@sungsam said:

Just ask Ninja Dog from Spacebattles (who is Japanese). Lel

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By the way: Did Ninja Dog proves that he is japanese? Because from his posts in SB, it seems he is a legit Demonbane hater and downplayer.

You know me, i wouldn´t say Demonbane is infinite-d or beyond, but i wouldn´t give much about someone who use his nationality as a factor.

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#28 Edited by Sungsam (3209 posts) - - Show Bio

@caocao said:
@sungsam said:

Just ask Ninja Dog from Spacebattles (who is Japanese). Lel

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By the way: Did Ninja Dog proves that he is japanese? Because from his posts in SB, it seems he is a legit Demonbane hater and downplayer.

You know me, i wouldn´t say Demonbane is infinite-d or beyond, but i wouldn´t give much about someone who use his nationality as a factor.

Because he speaks Japanese and translated stuff from J_Hagane's own twilog. And his english typing is really bad, in fact, Ninja Dog exists on this vine and his typing is also really bad.

Nothing that Ninja Dog said about Demonbane is wrong. If you think telling the truth about Demonbane is being a hater, and you think being Japanese means you should never criticize anything Japanese, is it Ninja Dog's fault really? It is what it is.

Even the "Near-Infinite" was proven true because Vortex Blaster Demonbane legit destroyed Infinite Universes - 1 culminating in the events of Nitroplus Blasterz. So it really was just Near Infinite by canon material and by WOG.

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#29 Posted by Yasindermann (1251 posts) - - Show Bio

@sungsam: @gabrielthelord:Dude, the proof is in front of you. You just need to go to Haganes twitter account and you would know that it's obviously him.

And to Sungsam: Did you noticed something interesting? Everytime Demonbane wankers get smashed, they just say: “MuH, author scans are fake“ (Without debunking the scans), or “MuH, just a fake account!“, although it's obviously Hagane, because he always shows snippets of demonbane (Before the release) This is pure despair and I feel almost sorry for them.

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#30 Edited by etriel (568 posts) - - Show Bio

demonbane's best feat was summoning infinite number of universe busting selves. zanmateisei confirmed 1 demonbane = 1 universe buster.

there is also no statement that elder god demonbane can summon war god demonbane or that elder god demonbane is strongest demonbane. that is also a head canon. which is also proven wrong since vortex festroyer killed all demonbanes and all universes leaving only the 1 universe where nitroplus blasterz took place in.

@caocao and i mean tons of weebs that lowball comics are also white. does that mean they cannot be white because they lowball fiction made by white people? huh?

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#31 Edited by CaoCao (1778 posts) - - Show Bio

@sungsam said:
@caocao said:
@sungsam said:

Just ask Ninja Dog from Spacebattles (who is Japanese). Lel

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By the way: Did Ninja Dog proves that he is japanese? Because from his posts in SB, it seems he is a legit Demonbane hater and downplayer.

You know me, i wouldn´t say Demonbane is infinite-d or beyond, but i wouldn´t give much about someone who use his nationality as a factor.

Because he speaks Japanese and translated stuff from J_Hagane's own twilog.

Afaik, the Demonbanewanker from VsBattle wiki translated stuff from the game and novel but you and i don´t think he is a japanese.

The uses some bad google translator, or he has found a good translator, etc.

Nothing that Ninja Dog said about Demonbane is wrong. If you think telling the truth about Demonbane is being a hater, and you think being Japanese means you should never criticize anything Japanese, is it Ninja Dog's fault really? It is what it is.

Telling the truth about Demonbane doesen´t make you to a hater, but the kind of handling with the demonbane debates does.

Sure, people can be hater and are still rational, but who has ever played Demonbane? The Demonbane wanker with his wankfeats on reddit, plays the game and translate this shit too, but does it makes him to a good source? The only relevant source we have is the Hagane himself, and that is they only point besides the games, novel, etc. that we can/should use.

I am very suspiciously at this point, that´s why i gave a damn what Ninja Dog, or Wankobane his homie said.

Even the "Near-Infinite" was proven true because Vortex Blaster Demonbane legit destroyed Infinite Universes - 1 culminating in the events of Nitroplus Blasterz. So it really was just Near Infinite by canon material and by WOG.

Which i accept.

@etriel said:

@caocao and i mean tons of weebs that lowball comics are also white. does that mean they cannot be white because they lowball fiction made by white people? huh?

As i said: Nationality isn´t relevant. It isn´t a guarantor to take the informations seriously. I am a german but that doesen´t make me to someone who knows more then others. The only person who knews more is the Autor. And yes, this guy is a japanese.

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#32 Edited by Sungsam (3209 posts) - - Show Bio

@caocao: I only use Ninja Dog (and others and co.) as a reference proving that JH Twitter account was really him, and pointing us to more obvious obviousness that J_Hagane IS him. The account had thousands of followers before Demonbane was even maxwanked. I didn't believe all his Demonbane Debunk at first even though I knew he was Japanese.

Ninja Dog is in fact a Demonbane fan and played all the games, and doesn't write English well and even now he doesn't. He doesn't use Google Translate because he writes good Japanese with other users on SB who also speak Japanese like Trexalfa. Just to further my point.

Anyone who hates Demonbane in handling it, as seems be, is a reaction to all the wank. If there was no wank, there would be no hate.

As Etriel said, a lot of white people are weebs who lowball comics. Is it really that hard to believe for an aversion to happen?

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#33 Edited by CaoCao (1778 posts) - - Show Bio

@sungsam said:

@caocao: I only use Ninja Dog as a reference proving that JH Twitter account was really him, and pointing us to more obvious obviousness that J_Hagane IS him. I didn't believe all his Demonbane Debunk at first even though I knew he was Japanese.

Ok, fair point.

Anyone who hates Demonbane in handling it, as seems be, is a reaction to all the wank. If there was no wank, there would be no hate.

Yes, but then i would hate the wanker, not Demonbane, because they are the main factor. Maybe i have a different kind to deal with this, haha

Ninja Dog is in fact a Demonbane fan and played all the games, and doesn't write English well and even now he doesn't. He doesn't use Google Translate because he writes good Japanese with other users on SB who also speak Japanese like Trexalfa.

Well, i am more a silent reader on SB. I think he played the games, and yes: He know a lot about Demonbane. But his opponents knows a lot about demonbane either, so we have two sides. And at this point it is good, that we have statements from Hagane.

As Etriel said, a lot of white people are weebs who lowball comics. Is it really that hard to believe for an aversion to happen?

I don´t realy understand the whole point here. I am just saying that someone who said he is xyz, doesen´t make him to a serious source, even if this guy has the same nationality like the autor. At the present time where translators exist. Some more bad then good.

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#34 Edited by gabrielthelord (168 posts) - - Show Bio

@yasindermann: bro and why we can not use quotes from ex:authors: one punch man the actor said that saitama kills ANYONE with a punch and truth he kills ex: enternidade mano the author of dementia is not possible mano the guy comtradiz own game

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#35 Edited by Sungsam (3209 posts) - - Show Bio

@caocao: Oh, of course there are two sides who both played the games. But one side is more correct than the other as the Anti-Demonbaners are more aligned with what J_H is saying, while Coston/Revenger side fabricated a lot more non sense about Demonbane than anyone else.

First they and Revenger claimed DYN Freaks was not canon, oh, it is. Then when that non sense was proven wrong.

We can then see Revenger making more excuses, basically fanfictionally claimed there are different Azathoths and Yog Sothoths in different Multiverses in 1 Megaverse, when no such thing was ever even implied.

Even VSBattles knows all of this, the only reason they continue wanking him is with Outerverse non sense scaling to a Baseline Multiverse. (which, we all know, on the Vine, Outerverse is really not an argument and is not a quantifiable destructive feat to our local Cosmology Tiering).

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#36 Edited by Sungsam (3209 posts) - - Show Bio

@gabrielthelord said:

@yasindermann: bro and why we can not use quotes from ex:authors: one punch man the actor said that saitama kills ANYONE with a punch and truth he kills ex: enternidade mano the author of dementia is not possible mano the guy comtradiz own game

Because those statements are unreliable, while Hagane's statements in fact align with canon perfectly. Like the Near-Infinite Multiverse which is literally vindicated by the very cause of the story of Nitroplus Blasterz.

Infinite Universes reduced to 1? That's basically what happened. See? Near Infinite Universes. It happened. It was proven in the canon literally itself without WOG that it's just Near Infinite Universes that Demonbane Cosmology has.

Besides, this is Demonbane, has nothing to do with OPM.

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#37 Edited by CaoCao (1778 posts) - - Show Bio

@sungsam said:

Even VSBattles knows all of this, the only reason they continue wanking him is with Outerverse non sense (which, we all know, on the Vine, is really not an argument and is not a quantifiable destructive feat to your Cosmology Tiering).

Yes, i noticed that. But one problem with VsBattle is, how their system works. You don´t have many critical demonbanedebatters on this board, and those users who calls themselfs "critical" on VsBattle, are fanboys or wankers too xD On the Mainpages from the different verses you see the names of users who are supporters, opponents and neutral: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Demonbane_(Verse)

Neutral my ass, this is a vicious circle and isn´t just a problem of Demonbane, because this system is used by all Verses on VsBattle, also many other alternative Wikis use this.

People, who aren´t member at this point are often ignored. You bring up good arguments, statements, etc. They wouldn´t accept it, because they have their main cast. If it comes that you bring up some facts, they will ask the mainguy who knows at most about Demonbane. Unfortunateley, this guy is a biased Demonbanefanboy.. Hagane his statements are the voice of "god" if it comes to Demonbane, but why he is still 1-A? (Therefore he was high 1-A) Even Hagane his statements aren´t relevant for VsBattle.

I am not a hater of VsBattle, but i dislike their politics.

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#38 Edited by gabrielthelord (168 posts) - - Show Bio

@sungsam: there are good statements and other bad has a difference if the game itself says the same thing ex: the character in the anime destroys a galaxy and the author says that he can not destroy a galaxy and prove me that he is the author and not the editor

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#39 Edited by Sungsam (3209 posts) - - Show Bio

@gabrielthelord said:

@sungsam: there are good statements and other bad has a difference if the game itself says the same thing ex: the character in the anime destroys a galaxy and the author says that he can not destroy a galaxy and prove me that he is the author and not the editor or something for

Zanma Taisei Demonbane
Written by

Jin Haganeya

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demonbane#List_of_games

Anything else? He's even the one who wrote DYN Freaks Manga which is the latest installment of Demonbane canon chronology.

D.Y.N. Freaks (ダイン・フリークス) is a manga written by Haganeya Jin and illustrated by Sora Tokumo. It was serialized in Monthly Dragon Age from April 9, 2013 to May 9, 2014.

It's not my job to convince you. I don't care what you think. It's my job to prove to my allies and people who are reasonable and logical in thought, that I am not lying.

Even Nitroplus Blasterz affirmed that the entire Demonbaneverse was just Infinite Universes.

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#40 Edited by Sungsam (3209 posts) - - Show Bio

@gabrielthelord said:

@sungsam: there are good statements and other bad has a difference if the game itself says the same thing ex: the character in the anime destroys a galaxy and the author says that he can not destroy a galaxy and prove me that he is the author and not the editor

You're likely gonna reply again with some bullshit.

HERE, Nitroplus Blasterz confirmed that Vortex Blaster destroyed INFINITE Universes, which reduced the Macrocosm (Omniverse) to 1 Universe.

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Meaning that the entire Demonbaneverse is Not Infinite Dimensional but just Infinite Universes (baseline Multiversal) so shut the fuck up already with your online/offline pick op poop status.

https://twitter.com/j_hagane/status/464689677954338817

"『渦動破壊神』 (∞-1)個の宇宙を破壊した、隻腕の神"

Demonbane DESTROYED the Macrocosm, and according to Hagane, it took destroying INFINITY minus ONE Universes to destroy it. WE HAVE BOTH WOG AND IN-GAME SCAN proving that Demonbane is just Infinite Universes.

He is fodder level to Protege who copied Living Tribunal who is infinite levels above Infinite Universes.

So Macrocosm/Omniverse of Demonbane = Infinite Universes, JUST BASELINE MULTIVERSAL.

If Demonbane's Omniverse can be reduced to 1 Universe by destroying a baseline Infinite Number of Universes, then everyone there just scales to Baseline Multiverse cosmology. Since 1 out of an Infinity set in Demonbane is just 1 Universe.

So just take the L.

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#41 Posted by gabrielthelord (168 posts) - - Show Bio

@sungsam: Lol no. Even the lowest interpretation of EGD is still multiversal. http://i.imgur.com/J9XS9Jl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/DhkgCWD.jpg http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/15/150339/4237891-9983372885-39366.jpg https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/pre-retcon-beyonder-vs-elder-god-demonbane.557974/page-8

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#42 Edited by gabrielthelord (168 posts) - - Show Bio

@sungsam: http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/7/7f/Dimension_Non-Existence.png/revision/latest?cb=20161029040520. this does not mean anything like that because the universe of egd is not infinite does not mean that it is not https://www.google.com/search?q=demonbane+multiversal&client=ms-android-americamovil-br-revc&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj50uKd96jhAhW9KrkGHXaXD7sQ_AUoAXoECAwQAQ&cshid=1553917053872&biw=360&bih=592&dpr=2#imgrc=wtwBGHqg8ThJXM&imgdii=X5_7-v1uuzjjMM

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#43 Edited by Sungsam (3209 posts) - - Show Bio

@gabrielthelord said:

@sungsam: Lol no. Even the lowest interpretation of EGD is still multiversal. http://i.imgur.com/J9XS9Jl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/DhkgCWD.jpg http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/15/150339/4237891-9983372885-39366.jpg https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/pre-retcon-beyonder-vs-elder-god-demonbane.557974/page-8

LMFAO, the first about Universes in Universes are metaphors for a timelooping universe dipshit. There is no "lowest" or "highest" interpretation of Demonbane. There's just Multiversal Demonbane, and Demonbane WANK LIES.

And Protege is INFINITE MAGNITTUDES above Multiversal.

Your second scan is just Baseline Multiverse shit. And even then, there is no evidence that Nya is tanking deaths of Infinite Universes, only that she is surrounded by them.

AND BOI, are you a fucking idiot for citing another forum that debunks Demonbane Wank.

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/why-is-demonbane-so-wanked-and-what-tier-do-you-put-demonbane.320829/

https://forums.spacebattles.com/threads/cosmic-armor-thought-armor-superman-vs-elder-god-demonbane.347359/page-4

Just shut the fuck up already.

EGDB's ONLY feat was summoning Infinite Number of Universe busting selves and that he killed millions of Nyar Avatars that HAVE NO FEATS.

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#44 Posted by gabrielthelord (168 posts) - - Show Bio

@sungsam: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/4/46/Klein_Bottle.png/revision/latest?cb=20161029042255

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#45 Edited by Supermanthor (21731 posts) - - Show Bio

@sungsam: dude check your launguge please other wise someone will again try to ban you

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#46 Edited by Sungsam (3209 posts) - - Show Bio

@gabrielthelord said:

@sungsam: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/vsbattles/images/4/46/Klein_Bottle.png/revision/latest?cb=20161029042255

SIGH

here we go again.

I already debunked this crap. Klein Bottles are just a TIME LOOPING UNIVERSE.

@sungsam said:

Uh... yeah, they are looping timelines. Even the head writer will tell you that.

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https://twitter.com/J_hagane/status/835458206994321408

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https://twitter.com/J_hagane/status/858940704755654657

This can even be proven by the fact that they're called KLEIN BOTTLES.

Do you know what a Klein Bottle is?

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klein_bottle

See? They are timelooped Universes, they're even basically called that. If you engaged your brain, you'd realize me being right culminates in the freaking name because it LOOPS itself.

Not Looping Timelines my ass.

That's why they're called KLEIN BOTTLES BECAUSE IT LOOPS INTO ITSELF. Loops. Klein. get it?

That's why "Universe in Universe" because its just 1 UNIVERSE that LOOPS into itself, like a Klein Bottle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Klein_bottle

I mean, no offense, but you have to be braindead to continue denying what I am saying. NOTHING supports you at this point.

Klein bottles are not composed of Infinite Universes, but just 1 Universe time-looping itself over and over.

The OUROBOUROUS (snake biting its own tail) WAS ANOTHER DESCRIPTION FOR THE KLEIN BOTTLE: https://imgur.com/wthYLwN

And again

https://imgur.com/XZ0LwZS

"Eternity refers to Klein Bottle. And things become clear. Each time a lap is finished in the incorrect way. Everything will repeat itself. Some characters are aware of this...but others are and they are Kurou of the previous lap and Therion"

See? Next eternity. Next loop.

And It's also just that everything you posted culminates to being just Baseline Multiversal at best. Destroying an "Omniverse" requires context as to how big the Cosmology is. Crossing Infinite Universes is also useless here. Destroying a full entire setting that only contains Infinite Universes is a walk in the park for Baseline Multiversals. And destroying billions of Universes is really not a relevant power feat to most of the beings in this gauntlet.

Nobody cares about your video. So don't pull that as an argument.

As for Yog Sothoth, that's kind of irrelevant because Demonbane is its own contained variation of Yog Sothoth and the Outer Gods. This is proven further in the fact that Azathoth is clearly not Omnipotent in Demonbane. But he at least is in the OG Lovecraft.

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#47 Posted by johnsmjs36 (690 posts) - - Show Bio

Didn't LT stomped Protege even after he had the powers of both LT and Beyonder.

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#48 Posted by zgtfreak (2210 posts) - - Show Bio

Why is Demonbane here?

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#49 Posted by GrandTOAA (986 posts) - - Show Bio

@zgtfreak: Isn't he supposed to be one of the strongest characters in all of fiction? (Well based on the arguments I see on this comicvine)

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#50 Posted by zgtfreak (2210 posts) - - Show Bio

@grandtoaa: Nah, his wank was debunked long ago; he's only infinite multiversal.