No one is holding back. Will Franklin Richards survive this one?
Protege vs Adult Franklin Richards
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@heymanjack said:
@isaac_clarke:
You dont really believe protege is is greater than LT right?
Franklin Richards certainly isn't and Protege is a walking copy machine of powers. There's nothing to suggest Franklin's power set won't be added to his own and that makes this one sided.
@imbackwimps said:
proof
Look at what Protege has achieved:
"He was displayed as superior to every other Abstract , save perhaps LT (and even that is debatable) .
Here , Beyonder tells us that "on the boy rests the fate of any and all realities" , after Protege copies LT's powers :
What is LT's reaction ?" Logical confirmation"(also note that while Scathan was only silently observing , Eternity was supremely shocked , while Hawk God felt "cold fear") :
Here , the LT actually states(I know it sounds retarded , but it is right there on-panel) that they may need the Amulet of the Ancient One :
Protege proceeds to attack LT, Eternity, Hawgod and GOTG, they all seem to be getting stomped (LT looks peculiar ... but he's there) .
LT's official bio corroborates the entire incident . It clearly mentions that Protege "manifested the Tribunal's own powers" :
He also copied Beyonder's power, here's the proof.
"
Pardon me but i do like Galactus, but just because he became Galactus's master doesnt mean he could beat someone who has outright copied LT's powers and beaten plethora of abstract entities.
And even after this if you really think Franklin Richard, even the adult version would win "easily" ,the burden of proof lies squarely on you and not isaac_clarke.
@Killemall said:
@imbackwimps said:
proof
Look at what Protege has achieved:
"He was displayed as superior to every other Abstract , save perhaps LT (and even that is debatable) .
Here , Beyonder tells us that "on the boy rests the fate of any and all realities" , after Protege copies LT's powers :
What is LT's reaction ?" Logical confirmation"(also note that while Scathan was only silently observing , Eternity was supremely shocked , while Hawk God felt "cold fear") :
Here , the LT actually states(I know it sounds retarded , but it is right there on-panel) that they may need the Amulet of the Ancient One :
Protege proceeds to attack LT, Eternity, Hawgod and GOTG, they all seem to be getting stomped (LT looks peculiar ... but he's there) .
LT's official bio corroborates the entire incident . It clearly mentions that Protege "manifested the Tribunal's own powers" :
He also copied Beyonder's power, here's the proof.
"
Pardon me but i do like Galactus, but just because he became Galactus's master doesnt mean he could beat someone who has outright copied LT's powers and beaten plethora of abstract entities.
And even after this if you really think Franklin Richard, even the adult version would win "easily" ,the burden of proof lies squarely on you and not isaac_clarke.
no you are very wrong he burden of proof lies squarely on he he ask me why on my answer and FR beat three celestials
@heymanjack said:
Beyonder the cosmic cube one. Not PR.
I am a little confused , was this directed towards me because i have never used the word PR at all.
@imbackwimps said:
@Killemall said:
Pardon me but i do like Galactus, but just because he became Galactus's master doesnt mean he could beat someone who has outright copied LT's powers and beaten plethora of abstract entities.
And even after this if you really think Franklin Richard, even the adult version would win "easily" ,the burden of proof lies squarely on you and not isaac_clarke.
no you are very wrong he burden of proof lies squarely on he he ask me why on my answer and FR beat three celestials
What i meant was, after seeing all his feats if you still believe FR wins , then its upto you to prove it because as it stands, Protege has far better feats.
Also, you just though because FR beat three celestial, so without considering what Protege has done, believe FR wins "easily" ?
@Killemall said:
@heymanjack said:
Beyonder the cosmic cube one. Not PR.
I am a little confused , was this directed towards me because i have never used the word PR at all.
@imbackwimps said:
@Killemall said:
Pardon me but i do like Galactus, but just because he became Galactus's master doesnt mean he could beat someone who has outright copied LT's powers and beaten plethora of abstract entities.
And even after this if you really think Franklin Richard, even the adult version would win "easily" ,the burden of proof lies squarely on you and not isaac_clarke.
no you are very wrong he burden of proof lies squarely on he he ask me why on my answer and FR beat three celestials
What i meant was, after seeing all his feats if you still believe FR wins , then its upto you to prove it because as it stands, Protege has far better feats.
Also, you just though because FR beat three celestial, so without considering what Protege has done, believe FR wins "easily" ?
yes and that's just my opinion i think FR IS COOL
It kinda depends on if GotG universe is considered canon and if Protege's feats are real. If they are then he stomps so easy it's ridiculous. If not then we need an accurate gauge of his powers. All of his feats can very well be illusions or alternate reality.
@Night Thrasher said:
It kinda depends on if GotG universe is considered canon and if Protege's feats are real. If they are then he stomps so easy it's ridiculous. If not then we need an accurate gauge of his powers. All of his feats can very well be illusions or alternate reality.
Firstly why would it matter if its cannon to 616 universe or not, its cannon to Protege's career and the future version of marvel universe.
Its like saying Ultimate Hulk vs Aunt May, Aunt May wins because ultimate universe is non cannon to 616.
Also LT bio confirms that is happened, which makes the feat cannon to even 616 universe, i even posted the scans from the bio.
@Night Thrasher said:
@Killemall: b/c that would change the version of LT. and I really never read the original GotG so I can't say one way or the other.
You do realise there is only one LT who exists outside the whole time/ space and reality barrier. Also i dont see why today LT would be any different from LT of a billion years or LT before billion years. Its just the same headless dude, getting powers from the same being, who has been said to be "eternal"
S/N: I never argued for Franklin. I do admit to having limited knowledge of characters I've never read and Protege is one of them.
@Killemall said:
@imbackwimps said:
yes and that's just my opinion i think FR IS COOL
you know what, heck with it, i personally like Franklin Richards better too. Franklin for the win :p
you cool 2
Protoge was winning against the Living Tribunal. Epic slaghtermurderbloodgodcurbwrecksmashbashcrushstepblink stomp.
@heymanjack said:
back on topic please
Is there really anything left to argue.
Hyperbole vs Hyperbole - Protege he outright claimed to have the powers of The One Above All
feats vs feats - As posted earlier Protege has , dare i say, "far" better feats.
Not seeing any advantage whatsoever.
@Killemall said:
Hyperbole vs Hyperbole - Protege he outright claimed to have the powers of The One Above All
I agree, but this doesn't really bear much relevance since Protege is not omnipotent, Scathan ruled against him sucessfully, meaning that he was not TOAA level.
@ShootingNova said:
@Killemall said:
Hyperbole vs Hyperbole - Protege he outright claimed to have the powers of The One Above All
I agree, but this doesn't really bear much relevance since Protege is not omnipotent, Scathan ruled against him sucessfully, meaning that he was not TOAA level.
Well thats why its a hyperbole :p hollow statements with no facts to back and, evidence that contradicts it.
@Killemall said:
@ShootingNova said:
@Killemall said:
Hyperbole vs Hyperbole - Protege he outright claimed to have the powers of The One Above All
I agree, but this doesn't really bear much relevance since Protege is not omnipotent, Scathan ruled against him sucessfully, meaning that he was not TOAA level.
Well thats why its a hyperbole :p hollow statements with no facts to back and, evidence that contradicts it.
There is evidence that contradicts it. The whole Scathan thing.
Oh and in before lock.
@Baldy said:
There is evidence that contradicts it. The whole Scathan thing.
Oh and in before lock.
Actually thats what i was trying to say.
No proof
But has evidence that contradicts.
Like the hyperbole, Hulk is the strongest there is, Iron Man is Invincible, Odin is omnipotent as such and such.
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