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#201 Posted by Tylerrenee (33 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackestnight93: Hunter doesn't stomp or win. Eobard Thawne shown alot of broken feats after the speed force Retcon. Being On Par With A Speed Force Powered Barry And Wally. what about the speed force retcon?. Didn't that like.... Amp Barry?. He already showed broken feats during final crisis. Running From Black Racer A Being Faster and Stronger than Black Flash For 20 Years..... Vibrating Through Darkseid etc etc. Running a bit faster than Wally. static.comicvine.com. And http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zDXmzbDroh4/T3BWn4w6b4I/AAAAAAAAAVw/Fd672VJOn8I/s1600/flash+barrry+wally+2.jpg. And finally. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11118/111188925/4145730-final+crisis+7.2+-+at+light+speed+time+stops.jpg. Superman also senses Barry before Wally. You know for coming back from death?. No one was prepared for such a amp. Eobard kept up with this. I'm sorry but Out Running a guy who outran a never ending instant is way more than a nanosecond will ever be. And like didn't Bart And Wally literally surpass Hunter. Like now they roflstomp.

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#202 Edited by mr-luxcipher (7593 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom stomps.

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#203 Posted by Goldchamp101 (8760 posts) - - Show Bio
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#204 Posted by TheSaiyanMan (1745 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom.

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#205 Posted by Lord-Parallax (4503 posts) - - Show Bio
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#206 Posted by KrleAvenger (26184 posts) - - Show Bio

Hunter stomps.

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#207 Posted by Freedon_nadd_1 (361 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackestnight93: Hunter doesn't stomp or win. Eobard Thawne shown alot of broken feats after the speed force Retcon. Being On Par With A Speed Force Powered Barry And Wally. what about the speed force retcon?. Didn't that like.... Amp Barry?. He already showed broken feats during final crisis. Running From Black Racer A Being Faster and Stronger than Black Flash For 20 Years..... Vibrating Through Darkseid etc etc. Running a bit faster than Wally. static.comicvine.com. And http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-zDXmzbDroh4/T3BWn4w6b4I/AAAAAAAAAVw/Fd672VJOn8I/s1600/flash+barrry+wally+2.jpg. And finally. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_super/11118/111188925/4145730-final+crisis+7.2+-+at+light+speed+time+stops.jpg. Superman also senses Barry before Wally. You know for coming back from death?. No one was prepared for such a amp. Eobard kept up with this. I'm sorry but Out Running a guy who outran a never ending instant is way more than a nanosecond will ever be. And like didn't Bart And Wally literally surpass Hunter. Like now they roflstomp.

You do realize that Zoom isn't a 'speedster' in the normal sense of the word. He has the power of slowing down time at his will and how much he wants to.

Eobard can move in a second from the right Earth pole to the left Earth pole, or race all of it. And all that Hunter needs to do is to snap his fingers and make his body fully-inerted.

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#208 Posted by Mutant1230 (6792 posts) - - Show Bio

Hunter Zolomon clearly wins, he proceeds Eobard Thawne in practically every way. The fact this is even being debated shows the utter resilience of Prof. Zoom's fanboys.

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#209 Posted by theawesomeflashsandiego32 (2152 posts) - - Show Bio

Still Hunter and still a stomp

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#210 Posted by TheKinfing (11861 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom stomps badly.

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#211 Posted by Green_Tea (10578 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom wins. he was winning against Wally who borrowed Jay and Bart's speed for crying out loud.

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#214 Posted by cosmoman (362 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackestnight93: What's up with people trying to have their character who wouldn't win murdering Fetuses and Children learning to walk? Y'all know Hunter Z takes this and consistently Hunter>>>Eobard in speed (yes, I'm looking at you time stream traveling instance). Hunter won't be holding back so Thawne gets slept before he even thinks of what Hunter looked like as a Child.

Also http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/in-before-lock.gif

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#215 Posted by stolen_kids (3 posts) - - Show Bio

While Thawne is more popular, Zolomon can just slow his ass down. I mean if he can beat Wally West into a pulp numerous times, then Thawne is in for a loss.

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#216 Posted by Kal-ElKavetsky (176 posts) - - Show Bio

I hate having to admit that someone is faster than Thawne but Zolomon is. Eobard has the edge in intelligence but Hunter's speed advantage just puts him a level above the Professor.

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#217 Posted by Outside_85 (23518 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom, he is something else while Thawne is (very) roughly just an evil Barry in terms of powers, and the faster Wally needed a boost from a bunch of other speedsters before he could get on Zoom's playing field.

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#218 Edited by MrStranger (1894 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom brutalizes.

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#219 Posted by Lichking245 (85 posts) - - Show Bio

Eobard should win this.

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#220 Posted by Eeef (2149 posts) - - Show Bio

Hunter runs circles around him.

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#221 Edited by FireStarLord73194 (5464 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom has always been faster than Wally whos faster than both barry and eobard. Zoom wins although Thawne would come back eventually

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#222 Posted by Saikic_Radio (29 posts) - - Show Bio

@firestarlord73194: Damn right, i love eobard thawne, he is an absolute beast, the way he presents himself, the way he uses his powers, his style, its just so fucking perfect

I am not a fan of zolomon but jeesus fucking christ zolomon wins in terms of speed, but i still think if this was a serious to the death battle it wud be a tie because thawne cant touch zoom and zoom cant truly kill thawne because of his preservation in the timelines by being a living paradox.

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#223 Edited by LivingParadox (1 posts) - - Show Bio

Well after 9 years the debat is over, the cannon list of speedsters was released and Thawn beat Zolomon by 3 places if memory serves correct. Regardless the OG wins.

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#224 Posted by Kevd4wg (12804 posts) - - Show Bio

The only way Thawne can win is if he time travels before Zolomon kills him

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#225 Posted by Eobard21 (6391 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom stomps

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#226 Edited by MarvelDetective (18 posts) - - Show Bio

@kevd4wg: Wrong, Why do people claim that Eobard Thawne can go back in time to kill Hunter Zolomon as a child?

First of all it wouldn't work and it's useless due to Zolomon existing in personal predefined timestream outside of dc timeline itself.

Hunters effects are permanent, when you are removed from the timeline itself and placed into a personal timeline with sort of existence to it

How would it be affected by the changes of the the timeline when he is already outside of laws of time.

Killing Hunter as a child wouldn't affect him since he dosen't exist in dc timeline any more

Meaning which he dosen't really exist in past and future those are just Images of him why do you think Hunter didn't take any action when he saw himself blocking his snap, because that past version is non existent and just a small recorded image of what happened in time just a frame.

It has been told as well that hunter transformed into a living timestream when the cosmic treadmill and wormhole lobbed him out of the timeline of dc despite that he can also time travel.

As well we can explain why he dosen't age first of all is due to being removed from the timeline itself, he is stuck in a single frame or animation meaning which he cannot age and nor does his organs have the needs for nutrition, as he will never get tired

So what will Eobard do to Hunter when hunter is superior in any way there is?

Obviously Hunter stomps and Eobard should be grateful since Eobards legacy ended when Barry broke his neck, but as soon Hunter used the cosmic treadmill with Jay Garrick to go back in time preventing Barry from breaking his neck

It was never confirmed that he couldn't time travel, he just didn't know how to time travel hence why he tried to use the cosmic treadmill, but it required speedforce energy to use it which is something he dosen't have

Hunter barely discovered all his abilities from his personal string, yet so far he found out that he is a living timestream, that he can time travel and that he can remove the speedforce from any foe at his will at the cost of allowing them to tap into him

Second of all Eobard New52 didn't have the same ability set as Hunter, Eobard only slowed down time to himself while Hunter controls his flow of time, allowing him to choose how fast and slow everything is around him and choose how fast and slow his body goes

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#227 Posted by King-Ragnar (4426 posts) - - Show Bio

Zolomon kinda stomps.

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#228 Posted by Supermanthor (21440 posts) - - Show Bio

Zolomom stomps

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#229 Posted by Consciouskeeper (2583 posts) - - Show Bio

Zolomom stomps

which one tapped into the power version of the speed force?

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#230 Edited by MarvelDetective (18 posts) - - Show Bio

@consciouskeeper:

What do you mean? As in the speedforce itself or the time powers based speedforce?

I assume Eobard it's just really confusing since the lack of reference and Hunter has the speedforce as well now

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#231 Posted by Kidolio (1153 posts) - - Show Bio

Didn’t need a bump but okay. Zoom > Wally > Eobard = Barry.

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#233 Posted by Omnipotent94 (1523 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom stomps hard.

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#234 Edited by MarvelDetective (18 posts) - - Show Bio

@consciouskeeper: Oh the Strengthforce? Yeah that's Hunter Zolomon

He has the Speedforce, Strengthforce And Sageforce if he gets the Stillforce he will be able to combine them granting him the ability to reshape or create a multiverse

Though he has all those 3 forces and his old former powers from post crisis era, after rogues revenge event his ability to control his flow returned back eventually, I believe it was a mental block

Though people forgot and haven't noticed one op ability that allows hunter to defeat any foes with a previous weaker form

He has the ability to reverse the state of reality in a inorganic state meaning which, he could revert theie state of reality further to a previous point.

That's what Inertia did to hunter but since Inertia reverted hunters existent state temporary, he cut himself from the only source that he tapped into giving the rogues the upper hand in the battle

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#235 Edited by Eobard21 (6391 posts) - - Show Bio

Hunter stomps

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