pefectly. While X tries to get in Strange's head strange puts an force field over it. Then attacks X
Professor X VS Dr. Strange
Everyone is always being so mean to Professor Xavier. And this thread is no different.
It was made for Dr. Strange to own Professor Xavier.
aztek_the_lost says:
"Slight says:"Prof.X is an omega level telepath"WTF? No he isn't..."
Yes he is. Xavier is in fact; ONSLAUGHT!!!!
and it's not just his mind that's in par with eternity and the watcher's. he can have strength like the juggernaut, powers as x-men & magneto combined. xavier's real power is basically absorbing anybodies entire being.. and that goes with their knowledge of everything too. so what's to stop xavier from casting or even reflecting strange's spells right back at him?
Korg says:
"If it's to the death, Xavier. He could shatter Strange's mind in an instant. Forget about any telepathic shielding Strange might have. If Xavier wants to shut you down, there's not much you can do. Thinking of a spell? To late, instantaneous mind-wipe."
I didn't know that X was that powerful. :0
If he is capable of that much power instantaneously, I don't think that there is much that Strange can do.
Korg says:
"If it's to the death, Xavier. He could shatter Strange's mind in an instant. Forget about any telepathic shielding Strange might have. If Xavier wants to shut you down, there's not much you can do. Thinking of a spell? To late, instantaneous mind-wipe."
exactly.. that helmet juggernaut has... and magneto's protective helmet is a joke to xavier. he's been playing them all those years having them believe "with my helmet on, xavier cannot control me"... when in fact, xavier was just giving them a chance.
you think xavier needs carebro? i think not.
Oh please. Strange himself is a very potent telepath. In fact he once defeated Moondragon in telepathic combat, when she had the Mind Gem.
Post Edited:2008-05-16 15:30:05
Ego says:
exactly.. that helmet juggernaut has... and magneto's protective helmet is a joke to xavier. he's been playing them all those years having them believe "with my helmet on, xavier cannot control me"... when in fact, xavier was just giving them a chance.you think xavier needs carebro? i think not. "
Didn't realize Strange was sporting a helmet these days. The reason they have those helmets is because if they didn't, they would be easy pickings for Xavier, even though Magneto has substantial psychic defenses even without the helmet (not that that helped him). I'm also aware that Strange is a very potent telepath. However, you rarely (if ever) hear people describe him as the most powerful telepath on the planet. Whereas this is what Xavier is primarily known for. See his beat-down of Exodus in X-Men: Legacy. He is incredibly nuanced in his use, and has put psychic barriers and post-hypnotic suggestions in people's minds that stayed in effect while he was comatose, outside of the Milky Way AND even after he was de-powered.
Moondragon was trying to banish Strange to another dimension, not erase his mind.
Okay, then how about the fact that Strange (in addition to being a powerful-enough telepath to fight off the power of the Mind Gem) can stop time, reverse it and is protected from harm by the invisible shield of everlasting enchantment?
It takes time for him to do things like stop time. Without knowing more about the nature of his shield, I can't say whether it would buy him time or hold Xavier off entirely. As I said, if Xavier and Strange were both out to kill the other, it would be an interesting fight. Either way it wouldn't last long. If Strange can withstand an initial telepathic assault by Xavier, he has a chance to work some magic, but this battle would take place at the speed of thought. I think verbal incantations are unlikely, and I don't think Strange could defeat Xavier in a battle of the minds, even though he is formidable in his own right on the astral plane.
Korg says:
"Ego says:exactly.. that helmet juggernaut has... and magneto's protective helmet is a joke to xavier. he's been playing them all those years having them believe "with my helmet on, xavier cannot control me"... when in fact, xavier was just giving them a chance.you think xavier needs carebro? i think not. "Didn't realize Strange was sporting a helmet these days. The reason they have those helmets is because if they didn't, they would be easy pickings for Xavier, even though Magneto has substantial psychic defenses even without the helmet (not that that helped him). I'm also aware that Strange is a very potent telepath. However, you rarely (if ever) hear people describe him as the most powerful telepath on the planet. Whereas this is what Xavier is primarily known for. See his beat-down of Exodus in X-Men: Legacy. He is incredibly nuanced in his use, and has put psychic barriers and post-hypnotic suggestions in people's minds that stayed in effect while he was comatose, outside of the Milky Way AND even after he was de-powered.
Moondragon was trying to banish Strange to another dimension, not erase his mind."
well strange doesn't sport a helmet i know.. i mean.. c'mon.. the guy digs his hair haha. but what i was trying to say, is that xavier can still pierce through juggernaut's helmet which is magical (protection) and mag's helmat which was technological protection. he's just holding back on certain boundaries because xavier is a very humble man. if i can recall... juggernaut had his helmet on while Onslaught ripped the cytorax gem right from his armor. and didn't magneto have his helmet on too when he had his mind erased? I'm just letting everyone else know that no matter how powerful and full proof dr. strange barriers can be. as long as he can think, he can be defeated by xavier.
If Strange can survive two encounters with Death itself and a fight against The LivingTribunal, then you can be sure he'll kick Xavier's telepathic bottom. He's just on another level, guys.
Gloom says:
"If Strange can survive two encounters with Death itself and a fight against The LivingTribunal, then you can be sure he'll kick Xavier's telepathic bottom. He's just on another level, guys."
Yeah, that's why he slapped WWH down so easily. These are not comparable circumstances. The Living Tribunal could quite obviously snuff Strange out of existence at will. I fail to see the baring these showings have on the battle at hand. Xavier is (I assume) trying to kill Strange/shut him down. Unless you can show me an instance where he completely dissipates a crippling/killing blow from a telepath of Xavier's calibre (and there aren't many), I stand by the Professor.
I don't think Xavier could pierce Juggernaut's helmet. (I thought you were being sarcastic). Onslaught was a separate entity for all intents and purposes. I believe it was his reality warping powers that allowed him to rip out Juggernaut's Gem. Xavier did in fact manage to plant some images in Magneto's head while he still wore the helmet, although Quicksilver knocked it off immediately after. Professor X has stated numerous time that Magento's helmet keeps him out of his mind. Strange's "helmet' is magical in nature, and thereby harder to account for.
Gloom says:
"If Strange can survive two encounters with Death itself and a fight against The LivingTribunal, then you can be sure he'll kick Xavier's telepathic bottom. He's just on another level, guys."
and why can't xavier fight living tribunal? i'm sure he can last just as long as strange can in that fight.
Okay... First of all, Ego, Xavier cannot fight the Living Tribunal because a) he's mortal and b) the Living Tribunal is omnipotent. The sheer fact that Strange could resist his will shows god-like powers, which I think you two are not understanding completely.
Second of all, Strange may not be the world's strongest telepath, but he is a pretty damn powerful one and could "cushion" most of Xavier's blows.
Thidly, Strange can react at superhuman speeds and has a sixth sense that could let him predict all of Xavier's attacks ahead of time (1)(2). Plus, he can entrap him in a power-negating bubble without saying a word (3), so don't say he needs time to cast spells.
Lastly, Strange was told by Eternity itself that he is by far the most powerful humanoid of the universe (4). Xavier's a couple of notches down.
Gloom says:
"Okay... First of all, Ego, Xavier cannot fight the Living Tribunal because a) he's mortal and b) the Living Tribunal is omnipotent. The sheer fact that Strange could resist his will shows god-like powers, which I think you two are not understanding completely.Second of all, Strange may not be the world's strongest telepath, but he is a pretty damn powerful one and could "cushion" most of Xavier's blows.Thidly, Strange can react at superhuman speeds and has a sixth sense that could let him predict all of Xavier's attacks ahead of time (1)(2). Plus, he can entrap him in a power-negating bubble without saying a word (3), so don't say he needs time to cast spells.Lastly, Strange was told by Eternity itself that he is **by far** the most powerful humanoid of the universe (4). Xavier's a couple of notches down."
mortal or not, xavier can sense and attack from light years away and in multiuniverses which tribunal exisit as one in all universes. there is no place it can hide. sure the living tribunal can cease xavier's existance in all universes if he wants, but don't you think for an instance that living tribunal was not even using a 0.000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,001% fraction of his power with the fight against strange????
i wouldn't even call that fight! but a mere taunt against strange.
Post Edited:2008-05-16 17:17:16
Gloom says:
"Okay... First of all, Ego, Xavier cannot fight the Living Tribunal because a) he's mortal and b) the Living Tribunal is omnipotent. The sheer fact that Strange could resist his will shows god-like powers, which I think you two are not understanding completely.Second of all, Strange may not be the world's strongest telepath, but he is a pretty damn powerful one and could "cushion" most of Xavier's blows.Thidly, Strange can react at superhuman speeds and has a sixth sense that could let him predict all of Xavier's attacks ahead of time (1)(2). Plus, he can entrap him in a power-negating bubble without saying a word (3), so don't say he needs time to cast spells.Lastly, Strange was told by Eternity itself that he is **by far** the most powerful humanoid of the universe (4). Xavier's a couple of notches down."
and another thing. xavier may be mortal.. but as onslaught... he is an entity just as living tribunal and other entity beings. and why evade xavier absorbing strange's knowledge of power? he can use strange's very attacks and defences against him under xavier's own hand, he cast strange's magic.
stop saying that proffessor X is an omega, the only original X-men who are omega level are jean grey and iceman
The thing is that Profesor X does not need a body to fight, he can just take as said before his astral form an if his body is destroyed he can enter another one easily Xavier is way to underrated they never show his real potential. Prof.X. would win here by a slide.
"apparently it wasnt when Xavier mind raped him.Strange's mind is too impervious, he'll take X out
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Proffesor X ftw.
"Classic Dr wins! Auto-shields will give Strange some protection from telepathy, maybe not full protection but enough to hold off Prof long enough to blast him with a city busting fireball. Anyhow Strange is too quick, he can duck into a side dimension and come up behind Prof and clock him on the back of the head for another sneaky win. In fact there are about 7 or 8 different ways Classic Strange can win this.
I didn't know that X was that powerful. :0
If he is capable of that much power instantaneously, I don't think that there is much that Strange can do.
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Strange does take the form of an astral projection while traveling the astral plain. Xavier may have a chance here but since his power is limited to the astral plain only while Strange also possess a magical barrier within it; Strange may likely prevail.
" Strange wins. he could easily knock Xavier with a simple spell. Or trap in a power dampening sphere."AKA the Crimson Band.
Yes, Xavier can't really do much; however; let's just imagine if he was in his darker state; He would be able to absorb everyone else to take up the form as Onslaught. Now he has the advantage.
"thats what i was thinkinIf it's to the death, Xavier. He could shatter Strange's mind in an instant. Forget about any telepathic shielding Strange might have. If Xavier wants to shut you down, there's not much you can do. Thinking of a spell? To late, instantaneous mind-wipe.
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"Gloom says:
"If Strange can survive two encounters with Death itself and a fight against The LivingTribunal, then you can be sure he'll kick Xavier's telepathic bottom. He's just on another level, guys."Yeah, that's why he slapped WWH down so easily. These are not comparable circumstances. The Living Tribunal could quite obviously snuff Strange out of existence at will. I fail to see the baring these showings have on the battle at hand. Xavier is (I assume) trying to kill Strange/shut him down. Unless you can show me an instance where he completely dissipates a crippling/killing blow from a telepath of Xavier's calibre (and there aren't many), I stand by the Professor.
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Strange getting beated by WW Hulk was PIS and he wasn't the Sorcerer Supreme anymore. When he was, he had consistant showings of going against Cosmic beings such as Galactus, Death, Living Tribunal, the in-betweener, beated Dormamu in his realm, was standing against Adam Warlock with the IG when everyone else was gone and ect.
@Ego: who ever acts first wins xaiver could be strange if he attacks first and strange could beat xaiver as well.
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