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Preretcon Beyonder.

So here's the deal:

There are 5 Preretcon Beyonders. Each Preretcon Beyonder must run through an assortment of enemies. However there are rules in place.

RULES

• A time limit is placed on each of the Beyonders.
• No BFR.
• Each Beyonder has 5 opponents.
• Time is based on Difficulty:
• Low Difficulty=2 minutes
• Mid Difficulty=3 minutes
• High Difficulty=4 minutes
• Akumu Difficulty=5 minutes
• Time's up(didn't clear)=10 minutes

The winner is the Beyonder that clears in the least amount of time.

Preretcon Beyonder 1 Opponents:

• Death of the endless
• Eternity
• Dr.Strange (Classic)
• Rimuru Tempest
• Apocalypse

Preretcon Beyonder 2 Opponents:

• Thanos (Heart of the Universe)
• Galactus (Hungry)
• Thought Robot
• Dormamaru
• Cthulu

Preretcon Beyonder 3 Opponents:

• Phoenix Force
• Infinity
• Death
• Oblivion
• White Crown Phoenix

Preretcon Beyonder 4 Opponents:

• Scarlet Witch
• Destiny of the endless
• Logos
• Lucifer MorningStar
• God (World of Darkness)

Preretcon Beyonder 5 Opponents:

• Thanos (infinity gauntlet and cosmic cube)
• Molecule man
• Hermaeus Mora
• Lord Chaos
• Dr.Fate

Either 2 or 3 wins from what I know of the characters here. PRB 4 probably loses.

1. Death of the Endless negs.
2. PRB clears. (high diff)
3. PRB clears. (high diff)
4. Lucifer or Destiny of the Endless solo.
5. Stalemate, probably.

He most likely clears 3 the fastest.

Round 1

Don't know tempest character but besides that he clears

Round 2

Thanos stops him, rest he would clear

Round 3

Depends on how u view rectoned Oblivion and WPOTC, rest would clear though

Round 4

HOM Wanda has possibility at least.

Logoz has possibility if u view aspect as near full power of presence. Don't know WOD God

Round 5

Thanos could stop him via mental/soul or stealing of power

Don't know mora, rest he clears

All except mentioned should be low diff really

He gets murked in that round prb is overhyped and no where near destiny and death let alone lucifer

@lightingjack: Agree, but I "downplayed" R4 because I don't want to get into a big argument with some who thinks PRB can solo fiction or at least DC.

@ovy7: I can understand

how is prb beating heart of the universe and phoenix force and white crown? O__O

@crevanille: As far as I know, HotU got retconed to only universal, so PRB shouldn't have any problems with Thanos.

Dunno about White Crown tho.

Round 1 : Beyonder dies

Round 2 : Beyonder Curbs

Round 3 : Beyonder Curbs

Round 4 : Beyonder dies

Round 5 : Beyonder Curbs ( it is said that his power is far superior to MM. )

1. Beyonder Clears.

2. Beyonder Fails.

3. Beyonder Clears.

4. Beyonder Fails.

5. Beyonder Clears.

He ain't losing to any of these people.

@lan_fan:

Please elaborate. You're saying all 5 beyonders solo. I'd like to know why.

@crevanille: He cannot clear even with his statements.

@crevanille: Hold up, I missed a lot of stuffs. I thought this was all Marvel characters.

It was always universal...no retcon

Okay. I'm going to assume this is the time for PRB 1:

• Death of the endless (Failed=auto 10 min)
• Eternity(High difficulty=4 min)
• Dr.Strange (Classic) (High difficulty=4 mins)
• Rimuru Tempest(Low difficulty=2 min)
• Apocalypse (Low difficulty=2 min)

PRB1 Time: 22 minutes

PRB2:

• Thanos (Heart of the Universe) (Akumu difficulty=5 minutes)
• Galactus (Hungry) (High difficulty=4 minutes)
• Thought Robot (Akumu difficulty=5 minutes)
• Dormamaru (High difficulty=4 minutes)
• Cthulu (High difficulty=4 minutes)

PRB2 Time: 22 minutes

Preretcon Beyonder 3 Opponents:

• Phoenix Force (Failed=auto 10)
• Infinity (High difficulty=4 min)
• Death (High difficulty=4 min)
• Oblivion (High difficulty=4 min)
• White Crown Phoenix (Failed=auto 10 min)

PRB3 TIme: 32 min

Preretcon Beyonder 4 Opponents:

• Scarlet Witch (Akumu difficulty=5 min)
• Destiny of the endless (Failed=auto 10 min)
• Logos (Failed=auto 10 min)
• Lucifer MorningStar (Failed=auto 10 min)
• God (World of Darkness) Failed=auto 10 min

PRB4 TIme: 45 minutes

Preretcon Beyonder 5 Opponents:

• Thanos (infinity gauntlet and cosmic cube) Mid difficulty=3 min
• Molecule man (Low difficulty=2)
• Hermaeus Mora (High difficulty=4 min)
• Lord Chaos (low difficulty=2 min)
• Dr.Fate (low difficulty=2 min)

PRB5: 13 minutes

PR5 is the winner i think. I just don't see him struggling as much as the other 4.

Poor PRB 4..

The first pre-retcon Beyonder dies. Even if you want to argue that Beyonder is stronger, it doesn't matter, since Death has already feats of claiming infinite-dimensional entities, that are even stronger than her.

Loses second match-up. Though robot still knocks his ass down. Million times stronger than infinite-D Beyonder contradicts thousand times with his actual feats. Though Robot has actual feats that backs up how he is vastly above infinite-D, like that Limbo is on palm size on his hand. Thought Robot wins, due to have better backed up claims on ''vastly above infinite-D''.

Third match-up: Wins. Was already shown to surpass the abstract entities.

Fourth match-up, Beyonder loses. The whole infinite-dimensional continuum means nothing to Lucifer. The concept of infinite-D or any cosmology system means nothing to Lucifer, which Beyonder both embodies. Basically, Beyonder means nothing to Lucifer. Lucifer knocks his ass down. So does Destiny

fifth match-up, Molecule man wins because of the same reason thought robot wins. Rest get's demolished.

MCU Mysterio solos

<3

Thanks for the compliment, if it's meant to be a compliment, lol.

@yasindermann: It is, mate.

@michaeljulius: If I'm honest, I don't know how to feel about the Beyonder (powerwise), even if he's my favourite multiversal character. He is a little bit more interesting than just boring, natural and wise multiversal characters for me. He's also funny.

And thanks again.

He Low-Mid diffs most of the fighters here. Exceptions:

Struggles with MM

Struggles and loses to HOTU Thanos, whose power should be a fraction of TOAA.

Eventually loses to Death and Destiny unless he wipes out everything including himself (which would be a loss)

Loses to Luci outright. Luci is more powerful overall and is much better at using his powers.

Unsure about God tho.

Beyonder probably loses to Destiny featwise. Beyonder may be an non-physical void, but how does that help against someone who contains an non-physical void in his book? Beyonder's multiverse is really nothing against Destiny, since he already contains such structures in his book. Beyonder probably get's stomped. And on-screen, his best feat was to be stronger than the Living Tribunal, who is inferior to the overvoid of DC featwise, since it is above infinite-dimensional by far. So, not even Beyonder's best feat does compare here.

@yasindermann: Im not a subscriber to Infinite-Dimensional DC being infinitely above an Infinite-Dimension Marvel verse.

He's my favorite Marvel Cosmic being as well.

@redshift_bacon: @michaeljulius: @yasindermann:

Guys regardless of how you feel about if PRB can clear, seeing this chat is awesome. This is what i live for guys. The discussion, the debate, the clever remarks. All over amazing characters, regardless of the fact they're fictional. I love the idea of stretching the imagination a bit. I have a habit of going overboard sometimes but the mere fact we can chat like this is because these characters are in a way real. Real only in the fact that they take time out of our lives to acknowledge.

Okay. Gonna chill it with the speech. It's just awesome seeing discussions like these I had to say something about it. Exit stage, Crevanille.

I'm an high tier multiversal debater here, since I'm pretty active on this forum. And thanks!

@crevanille: You can check my profile, if you're like debate so much. Just try to be nice with that offer.

Sure thing dude. Sounds good. I'll look into it.

Thanks! I feel the same.

There's always that one guy.