@universeprodigy: sure let's ignore just how Hollywood magic skilled those Comanche warriors were. Lets also ignore all the wounds and damage the Predator took before that fight.
The Predator takes a hard stop at my friend Hawkeye, who'd pump him full of those special arrows. The Yuatja was harmed by standard Native American tools made of stone and wood, which indicates his high susceptibility to normal Human weapons.
@universeprodigy: sure let's ignore just how Hollywood magic skilled those Comanche warriors were. Lets also ignore all the wounds and damage the Predator took before that fight.
Typical of haters leaving out the context. 🤔
It seems more like you are trying to ignore facts because you are his fanboy.
Even before he was injured Comanche warriors managed to hit and wound him. He also showed healing tech. Plenty of time has passed before he got owned by the girl and a dog.
Dude couldn't even hit a guy riding on a horse. Multiple times. He has incredibly slow reactions and was carried hard by his stealth tech. Which is basically cheating.
He even used that tech while fighting a wolf, lol. Absolutely pathetic.
The Predator takes a hard stop at my friend Hawkeye, who'd pump him full of those special arrows. The Yuatja was harmed by standard Native American tools made of stone and wood, which indicates his high susceptibility to normal Human weapons.
All preds take damage from human weapons. What you failed to mention is This Predator took massive amounts of damage that kill someone like Cap three times over and kept fighting. Even tanking a bullet to the back of the skull. So taking normal arrows mean what? He can tank dozens of arrows and chug on. Hawkeye cant take a hit at all or die from the strength or harpoon tracking gun this Pred has. Add to this this pred has shown to parry arrow with its shield fine and even catch arrows out of the air.
No way he stops at 1. 2 is debatable. Only 3 and forward are hard stops.
@universeprodigy: sure let's ignore just how Hollywood magic skilled those Comanche warriors were. Lets also ignore all the wounds and damage the Predator took before that fight.
Typical of haters leaving out the context. 🤔
It seems more like you are trying to ignore facts because you are his fanboy.
Even before he was injured Comanche warriors managed to hit and wound him. He also showed healing tech. Plenty of time has passed before he got owned by the girl and a dog.
Dude couldn't even hit a guy riding on a horse. Multiple times. He has incredibly slow reactions and was carried hard by his stealth tech. Which is basically cheating.
He even used that tech while fighting a wolf, lol. Absolutely pathetic.
Comanche warriors got two hit on him the whole fight. One was a arrow in the arm which this Pred never tried to defend against and took it. Took it with a "meh" glance. Then the end of the fight the last warrior got a foot stab. Thats it. not once they hit Pred who dodge and counter them the rest of the fight. Only the brother got hits in only after the Pred was shot alot by muskets balls, mauled by a bear, and had its foot yank around in a bear trap.
Slow reactions? He caught a arrow out of the air by the "dude on the horse' and parried another with the shield. That dude on the horse was Hollywood ninja skill more than anything. A feat for Naru brother Tanabe.
Yeah he challenge the wolf let himself get bit and ended the wolf easy knowing it was not a challenge. Just as it chose to use no tech vs the bear knowing it can and would win in brute force where it shrugged off the bear mauling it, and then one shot the Grizzly with a punch to the head.
Stops at 3. No reason for him to stop at Hawkeye. The natives could have been the best fighters in the world. We don’t know. What we do know is that predators are trained fighters for their entire lives and hunt the most dangerous aliens in the galaxy. So they were just some really skilled natives.
1.) Too strong, he killed a bear with one punch and effortlessly hoisted it over him.
2.) He's fast, just because he didn't try to dodge anything doesn't mean he can't. He can clearly move far beyond human capabilities as demonstrated when he was leaping through the trees after Naru and him sprinting through the tall grass catching them immediately even with their football field head start.
3.) His weapons would obliterate them. Not one of them can survive that arrow gun or his acid cannisters. Even the tension net would allow him to dominate them.
@icec0ld: His weapons of course would neg the gauntlet but he's very dumb and likes a challenge he gets squashed by Elephant and Crocodile death rolls his limbs off.
1.) Too strong, he killed a bear with one punch and effortlessly hoisted it over him.
Irrelevant. He never reaches Hawkeye who is superhuman in his own right. Trick arrows should be a go to when a nine foot tall alien comes your way. He doesn't pass one on this gauntlet.
2.) He's fast, just because he didn't try to dodge anything doesn't mean he can't. He can clearly move far beyond human capabilities as demonstrated when he was leaping through the trees after Naru and him sprinting through the tall grass catching them immediately even with their football field head start.
He failed to dodge a small wolf.
3.) His weapons would obliterate them. Not one of them can survive that arrow gun or his acid cannisters. Even the tension net would allow him to dominate them.
Hell yea they would. He should use them right off the bat instead of enjoying the hunt.
Prey Predator has been tagged by every character that isn't the French.
Sure, the Comanche are supposed to be good warriors. But the Predator was getting meaningfully tagged and wounded by basically everyone that wasn't the French. The Wolf, Bear and even the members of the party meant to bring Naru back all landed significant hits on it. I don't think it's more skilled than either the Jungle Hunter, or City Hunter (Another Young Blood) given they went basically untouched against their enemies, up till the end. Who all had better weapons and training than people from that era.
City Hunter, another Young Blood. Was throwing himself, uncloaked, at armed groups of civilians for the entire movie. And would come out unscathed. That takes balls. And shows how even another Young Blood is still more competent that Prey Predator.
And that's ignoring the other Young Blood from AVP. Who are also far better than this slow moron. Are far more durable, faster, and smarter than him. And dealt with creatures that are >>> a wolf and a bear.
Prey Predator is just pathetic. Calling him a Predator is an insult to all the actually skilled and decent Predators.
Prey Predator has been tagged by every character that isn't the French.
Sure, the Comanche are supposed to be good warriors. But the Predator was getting meaningfully tagged and wounded by basically everyone that wasn't the French. The Wolf, Bear and even the members of the party meant to bring Naru back all landed significant hits on it. I don't think it's more skilled than either the Jungle Hunter, or City Hunter (Another Young Blood) given they went basically untouched against their enemies, up till the end. Who all had better weapons and training than people from that era.
City Hunter, another Young Blood. Was throwing himself, uncloaked, at armed groups of civilians for the entire movie. And would come out unscathed. That takes balls. And shows how even another Young Blood is still more competent that Prey Predator.
And that's ignoring the other Young Blood from AVP. Who are also far better than this slow moron. Are far more durable, faster, and smarter than him. And dealt with creatures that are >>> a wolf and a bear.
Prey Predator is just pathetic. Calling him a Predator is an insult to all the actually skilled and decent Predators.
prey predator is only “pathetic” due to wanting to create a more engaging story which works as I honestly don’t care that avp or city are better “predators” when both of their movies are straight trash lol. Predator needed to be toned down to fit the time period he is in otherwise there would be a lot more plot armor going in and it be a lot more of a worser experience. Having the predator take damage overtime makes the final fight fight a lot less ridiculous
prey predator is only “pathetic” due to wanting to create a more engaging story which works as I honestly don’t care that avp or city are better “predators” when both of their movies are straight trash lol. Predator needed to be toned down to fit the time peroxide he is in otherwise there would be a lot more plot armor gong on
Those movies being good or trash doesn't matter. And doesn't add or counter anything from what I said. You not caring that those Predators are superior because their movies are bad, is your preference. It doesn't change the fact that Prey Predator is garbage in comparison to them.
You can have an engaging story, and make the monster a genuinely tough threat that can go almost untouched. Alien/Predator 1 showed that was possible. So him being weak and getting tagged by almost everyone for the sake of the story getting toned down, is not an excuse. Especially when it comes to VS match-ups like this. Where shown feats and capabilities take first place. Along with anti-feats.
If you like him, you do you. No one is crapping on the movie. We're comparing his abilities to his peers, and showing how much of a failure Prey Predator is in comparison to even other Young Bloods. Which is quite bad considering even the extended lore has not (As far as I remember, at least.) Introduced the main threat, and made him a Predator as trash as this one.
You can have an engaging story, and make the monster a genuinely tough threat that can go almost untouched. Alien/Predator 1 showed that was possible. So him being weak and getting tagged by almost everyone for the sake of the story getting toned down, is not an excuse.
I’m not saying your wrong you definitely can make a engaging story where the main monster get hurt only at the the end but that runs the risk of more problems than not. looking at your predator 1 example people have often criticized the movie for it’s obvious amounts of plot armor that Dutch received and a lot of people didn’t really think it was a convincing victory for our hero. This didnt stop people from just turning their brains however and still engaging with said media and enjoying it anyway. now of course a hero beating the monster will always be contrived to a certain extent but having said threat get hurt throughout the movie just makes them losing more believable which makes the viewers come off having a better experience with the media.
again I’m not saying your wrong I think this concept works for something like aliens who can be more outsmarted but when your using a concept like predators who are essentially far smarter than humans, better hunters than humans, far stronger faster, ext than well yeah Any way the hero beats him will always come off as a little ridiculous.
If you like him, you do you. No one is crapping on the movie. We're comparing his abilities to his peers, and showing how much of a failure Prey Predator is in comparison to even other Young Bloods. Which is quite bad considering even the extended lore has not (As far as I remember, at least.) Introduced the main threat, and made him a Predator as trash as this one.
i think people should start asking questions of whether they care more about engaging stories rather than battle boarding. not saying your wrong of course he is trash compared to other predators but thats just makes him more interesting.
@cryolancer47: none of the other Predators fought hollywood magic ninjas. Those Comanche were more skilled fighting and move wise than Harrigan, Dutch, or Brody ever showed.
You wrongly assume Special Forces equals great fighters. They are not great martial artist. MA fighters regulary beat special forces training which is why MA is learned and use by said special forces to compliment what they do learn in Buds.
Hell Harrigan and Dutch were SHITTY trackers as well. Unlike the Comanche.
All the older movies have is guns and gun play. Which is why Predators have Plasma Casters. This Pred had no Caster handicapping itself and fought better skilled fighters in the Comanche. Hell the older Preds got tagged as well lmao. Jungle Pred tagged by bullets to the knee and then tagged b Arnold hand thrown explosive javelins. City Pred was tagged alot by short range Nitro spray and then tagged all over the place by Harrigan. Berserker was stabbed and shank by a shitty inmate lmao. Then Berserker took blow after blow from a club weilding Brody. SMH.
Hell neither Dutch or Harrigan can punch out a Grizzly and slam said Grizzly around as this Pred can. Yet those guys and the Yakuza in Predators killed Preds in close combat. Harrigan litteraly parried and block City Pred blows lmao. The soft out of shape (compared to Arnold and Brody, Danny Glover is not in shape lmao) lifestyle city cop. The whole fight is Danny Gliver waving the Disc weapon around lime he was having a siezure lmao. Thats pathetic. Yakuza sword fight and killed Falcon Predator. Thats pathetic.
Irrelevant. He never reaches Hawkeye who is superhuman in his own right. Trick arrows should be a go to when a nine foot tall alien comes your way. He doesn't pass one on this gauntlet.
Hi just to be clear, Hawkeye only gets regular arrows in this fight.
@war_of_light_2814: Taabe dance around a Predator who used up its gear like the net and mines as well just took massive damage from multiple muskets rounds, bear trap to the ankle, and stab wounds, plus a bear mauling it all before that fight.
Nice try leaving out context. Pred was already weaken and damage by then. Just as it was more weaken and damage so Naru had a chance in hell to fight it.
@war_of_light_2814: Taabe dance around a Predator who used up its gear like the net and mines as well just took massive damage from multiple muskets rounds, bear trap to the ankle, and stab wounds, plus a bear mauling it all before that fight.
Nice try leaving out context. Pred was already weaken and damage by then. Just as it was more weaken and damage so Naru had a chance in hell to fight it.
Again haters leaving out context. 😂
Lol, how about being more mature and stop assuming everyone disagreeing with you are haters?
Pred has that little spray or whatever that help closing his wounds and Taabe was fresh out imprison/torture so i'd call that pretty even.
The people with guns also somehow didn't target his legs. Which was pretty dumb.
Tbf even modern day police and soldiers are trained to always shoot at center mass or the chest area.
But I am talking about moments when Predator had shield in front of him. On which their bullets were useless. Logically any person would target areas that are exposed and not covered by the shield.
The people with guns also somehow didn't target his legs. Which was pretty dumb.
Tbf even modern day police and soldiers are trained to always shoot at center mass or the chest area.
But I am talking about moments when Predator had shield in front of him. On which their bullets were useless. Logically any person would target areas that are exposed and not covered by the shield.
I mean we do see a person trying to straight up headshot the Predator and I doubt these people considered the shield was strong enough to be entirely bullet proof in the first place. The People were also trying to shoot it when it was leaping off the trees but their accuracy sucks balls.
I’m not saying your wrong you definitely can make a engaging story where the main monster get hurt only at the the end but that runs the risk of more problems than not.
No, not really. If done as well as it was jn Predator 1/Alien. Then very little problems will exist.
looking at your predator 1 example people have often criticized the movie for it’s obvious amounts of plot armor that Dutch received and a lot of people didn’t really think it was a convincing victory for our hero. This didnt stop people from just turning their brains however and still engaging with said media and enjoying it anyway.
Well, unfortunately, it was.
And while Dutch got plot armor. It wasn't more than what every other Predator protag got. Dutch barely survived his first encounter, and was injured. He only managed to escape when he got out of the water and accidentally covered himself in mud. Which is why the Predator couldn't find him the first time.
The second time, Dutch had prep + the mud trick. Which allowed him to damage the Predators camouflage tech. And then abuse his invincibility to annoy him.
He then gets bodied by the Predator, until said Pred considered Dutch a worthy prey. One that is worthy of seeing it's hunters' face. Which is why he didn't tear his neck apart and call it a day like he did everyone else. Dutch didn't have some God-Tier plot armor. He was a skilled mercenary that were specifically picked for this job due to their high skills. And him and his crew still got bodied by Jungle Hunter. This has been explained multiple times at this point.
So those people complaining ignored the context of HOW he won. And just focused on the fact that he did.
now of course a hero beating the monster will always be contrived to a certain extent but having said threat get hurt throughout the movie just makes them losing more believable which makes the viewers come off having a better experience with the media.
1. Dutch's win wasn't contrived.
2. Having the big bad threat getting harmed once is fine. But getting harmed early, more than once, also damages the intimidation factor. And makes the threat seem less invincible and dangerous. Which was the point of almost every Previous Predator. Especially when Prey Predator didn't just get tagged once. But many times. More than Jungle Hunter/City Hunter did. Who both went unscathed throughout their movies, in comparison. Despite one of them being a Young Blood, just like Prey Predator. And throwing himself into groups of armed civilians with better weapons than what people from the Prey movie had.
3. The viewer having a better experience isn't the point of this thread. We're not here to talk about who liked what about which movie. And even I'd we were it doesn't change the fact about how garbage Prey Predator was.
again I’m not saying your wrong I think this concept works for something like aliens who can be more outsmarted but when your using a concept like predators who are essentially far smarter than humans, better hunters than humans, far stronger faster, ext than well yeah Any way the hero beats him will always come off as a little ridiculous.
No. The heroes beating a powerful foe is nothing new. And it's not like Dutch beat the Jungle Hunter in H2H. He tried that and got humiliated. He did nothing more than damage it's camouflage tech before the Predator revealed his face as a way to honor Dutch and his efforts. And show him that he was a worthy, intelligent prey.
He only won because he thought fast enough and activated the trap when the Predator was close enough for it to work. Dutch was exhuasted and going to die before that. So the first movie is still satisfying and give a good conclusion. Despite what you're trying to imply, here.
i think people should start asking questions of whether they care more about engaging stories rather than battle boarding. not saying your wrong of course he is trash compared to other predators but thats just makes him more interesting.
Not really. Many Predators are more interesting than he can ever be thanks to their actions and the way they hunt their preys. As well as their body language.
Jungle Hunter, City Hunter, Wolf, Scar. They're all more interesting than him from the way they're presented, to the way they interact with their prey.
Him being weak and garbage is his unique trait. But that doesn't make him more interesting than all these beloved Predators who are also dangerous and competent at their job. And feel far threatening than he does.
@advent_: and you must be one of the jokes on that Spacebattle recent threads that think Naru whipping a axe on a string is realistic or base on real life. Lmao. Or that Comanche really fight they way they portayed. That real humans can tank a bear killing punch from Predator. You must think action 80s and 90s characters like Dutch who lifts a truck and walks is real life portrayal of human abities. Lmao. 🤡
@war_of_light_2814: People who ignore context to try and argue the movie makes no sense or woke have a Agenda and shit arguments to support such claims.
The people with guns also somehow didn't target his legs. Which was pretty dumb.
Tbf even modern day police and soldiers are trained to always shoot at center mass or the chest area.
But I am talking about moments when Predator had shield in front of him. On which their bullets were useless. Logically any person would target areas that are exposed and not covered by the shield.
I mean we do see a person trying to straight up headshot the Predator and I doubt these people considered the shield was strong enough to be entirely bullet proof in the first place. The People were also trying to shoot it when it was leaping off the trees but their accuracy sucks balls.
They were shooting the shield for like 10 seconds straight. While it didn't even have a scratch. Anyone would realize that the shield can't be penetrated and that the creature holds it to block the bullets for a reason.
@advent_: and you must be one of the jokes on that Spacebattle recent threads that think Naru whipping a axe on a string is realistic or base on real life. Lmao. Or that Comanche really fight they way they portayed. That real humans can tank a bear killing punch from Predator. You must think action 80s and 90s characters like Dutch who lifts a truck and walks is real life portrayal of human abities. Lmao. 🤡
@war_of_light_2814: People who ignore context to try and argue the movie makes no sense or woke have a Agenda and shit arguments to support such claims.
Gets old 😜
Lol, When do i argue that movie make no sense? How exactly these have anything to do with me?
none of the other Predators fought hollywood magic ninjas.
Huh. Don't remember the Comanche doing anything magical. They were just your typical native american tribe. But that doesn't change the fact that homie got tagged by the small Wolf and the Grizzly bear. Which are real life animals.
And even so. Those Predators might not have fought "Magic Hollywood Ninjas" as you may call them. Despite it being an exaggeration when you look at the actual movie.
Where he got tagged by one when distracted by the other. Whom he sent flying after getting pissed off:
And then the other guy, who barely kept up and barely dodged getting his PP cut off:
And who then got his arm chopped off before he could draw his weapon:
And none of the Predators fought guys who can tag them twice like this:
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Magical Hollywood Ninja? Nah. More like human with the ultimate weaponry that can tag a shitty Predator that got tagged by a small wolf and arrows. As well as his fellow fodder that got sent flying.
But you know what those other Predators did fight? Aliens, their own species, and a trained group of mercenaries who were all pretty good shots who managed to low-diff an entire Rebel base on their own.
Those Comanche were more skilled fighting and move wise than Harrigan, Dutch, or Brody ever showed.
They did nothing to say they were more skilled. Dutch and his crew took down an entire Rebel base that was armed to the teeth, as if it was nothing, with 0 injuries, no less.
Harrigan was an old, experienced cop in a city full of gang wars. And was an extremely great shot to land that hit on City Hunter. And keep up as well as he did against an injured one:
Who was barely scratched by anyone else throughout the movie. Despite being a Young Blood, just like Prey Predator.
Of course, the Predator low-diffed him. But an exhuasted Harrigan did at least as well as the Comanche Fodder. Despite being older than them.
Royce is a former U.S. Special Operations Forces turned mercenary. And a damn good one at that.
All of these people are far superior to the likes of Naru. Who was nothing but a young, inexperienced girl with, at best, the knowledge to hunt animals. Or the fodders above. And they're far superior to her physically. At least in the case of Dutch and Royce. With Harrigan being arguably equal to her in stats.
You wrongly assume Special Forces equals great fighters.
But we're talking about Hollywood Special Forces. Not the real ones. And Dutch proved why him and his group were indeed great warriors during their attack on the Rebel base.
Unless you're talking about H2H. In which case, I'd like to point at another thing. Jungle Hunter molested Dutch physically with utter ease. Which shows how far up there he is in comparison to someone who is definitely >>> any one of the Comanche, individually.
They are not great martial artist.
Never said they were mini-Jackie Chans. Just that they were better than the likes of Naru when it comes to weaponry and training. H2H doesn't work for Dutch against the Jungle Hunter Predator. Who straight-up bodied him with ease when it came to it. And I doubt Naru, or any of her fodder buddies, would do any better against a guy who managed to run and not get tagged more than once by automatic gun fire.
Unlike the Predator they dealt with. Who was tagged by a little wolf, a bear, arrows, and by them as well.
MA fighters regulary beat special forces training which is why MA is learned and use by said special forces to compliment what they do learn in Buds.
The more you know.
Hell Harrigan and Dutch were SHITTY trackers as well. Unlike the Comanche.
Dutch wasn't tracking the Predator. He was never gonna even find a blooded Predator such as Jungle Hunter. He prepared and bought his time until they met again so that he'll be ready for it.
Harrigan lives in the city. And he could never find City Hunter, because the guy was going all around and going from rooftop to rooftop. Replace Harrigan with the Comanche, and they would never find him in that setting.
In both cases. It's less about them being shit. And more that the Predators they were dealing with were actually pretty damn good at keeping their distance and disappearing. Unlike a certain someone:
Man got tagged by two dudes who were shooting their arrows blindly at him. At least Jungle Hunter got tagged once by automatic guns. Which travel at far faster speeds than these arrows of those two dudes.
All the older movies have is guns and gun play.
Yes. Guns used by experienced mercenaries such as Dutch & Brody. Or excellent shots such as Harrigan.
And guns >>>>>>>> arrows and any weapon from Naru's era.
Which is why Predators have Plasma Casters.
Yes. But only the likes of Jungle Hunter used it. City Hunter basically got through the movie using his physicals and CQC weapons. I don't even remember him using the Plasma Caster that much.
Either way, it's a long range weapon. They're smart for using it.
This Pred had no Caster handicapping itself and fought better skilled fighters in the Comanche.
The Comanche are not better skilled than other Predators, or humans. They're an old time tribe stuck using old time weapons. I wouldn't even put them near peak-Humans such as the likes of MCU Hawkeye or Widow.
Hell the older Preds got tagged as well lmao. Jungle Pred tagged by bullets to the knee and got tagged by Arnold hand thrown explosive javelins.
1. He got tagged by that bullet when he was very close to the shooter. Even then. Getting tagged by a bullet once, is still better than getting tagged as much as Prey Predator was. And he wasn't harmed by any of the other bullets after this that were shot at him.
2. Arnold required prep and invisibility to land that. And advantage Jungle Hunter was not prepared for
City Pred was tagged alot by short range Nitro spray and then tagged all over the place by Harrigan.
1. That was at close distance.
2. Him vs Harrigan also had context. And ignores everything that happened and how prepared Harrigan was against City Hunter. The first time he gets tagged, Harrigan was running away from him. And CH was extremely close to him and walking slowly. He wasn't ready for Mike to pull out the weapon and shoot him:
And even then. He tanked all those bullets from close range and continued to fight.
And the next time he gets tagged, the Predator was just done using his breather device:
And the Predator tanked his arm getting chopped off and going through a wall with all those injuries:
And even after all of that. He managed to sneak his way up to Harrigan. And low-diffed him in CQC:
He only got tagged next because he actually thought Harrigan was fine for. And was about to finish him:
So, no. Your view on him being tagged so easily isn't true.
Berserker was stabbed and shank by a shitty inmate lmao.
That also has context for why it even happened.
First, he shot the guy in the back, who dropped to the ground as if he was dead:
Which the inmate survived because he wore protection he stole from Roland, and put it under his jumpsuit.
second, Berserker uncloaked himself and was ready to end the others:
So he wasn't even paying attention to the inmate. Because he thought he killed him.
Third, he wasn't expecting him to get up and sneak him:
So It's not as if he was fighting the dude 1v1.
Then Berserker took blow after blow from a club weilding Brody. SMH.
That's a plain lowball attempt and you know it.
Berserker was already hurt from multiple genades exploding at his face from a point blank range:
Berserker's gear was damaged after that, and Royce was also exploiting the mud trick and heat from the fire. Which gave him an advantage and made him invisible:
You're literally ignoring context and yet criticized people for doing so. Come on, man.
Hell neither Dutch or Harrigan can punch out a Grizzly and slam said Grizzly around as this Pred can.
Neither could Naru or any of her tribe. But who won at the end?
Also, Feral Predator is not consistently "I can one-shot bears" level of strong with his hits.
He couldn't one-shot that small wolf:
Got tagged by him and didn't one-shot him again:
And the Wolf recovered fast enough to have a little stand-off against him. And seemed to not have gotten any physical damage from him before he got sliced:
And him Vs the Bear was a clear struggle:
With the bear clearly getting the upper-hand and overpowering the Predator.
And he sure as hell couldn't one-shot the Comanche fodder when he was clearly pissed off after getting stabbed in the foot:
So the one-shot punch is definitely not a casual feat from our dear leather masked Hunter.
Yet those guys and the Yakuza in Predators killed Preds in close combat.
No one killed a Predator in pure CQC in that movie, except for the Yakuza guy. And he only managed to do so with hard-diff against Falconer, because he was actually skilled enough to keep up via on-screen feats:
And because Falconer had enough honor to fight him in a pure sword fight. Which is the real reason why he won after getting tagged multiple times by him. And both dying in the end after severe injuries.
So going with your logic. This makes the Yakuza guy a magical Hollywood Samurai. And also makes him >>> The Comanche Fodder/Naru. Since he did far better on his own against a blooded Predator who were hunting criminals/some of the most dangerous people, for many seasons, just for the kicks. Which puts them above an inexperienced Young Blood such as the Feral/Prey Predator when it comes to skill in CQC.
Harrigan litteraly parried and block City Pred blows lmao. The soft out of shape (compared to Arnold and Brody, Danny Glover is not in shape lmao) lifestyle city cop. The whole fight is Danny Gliver waving the Disc weapon around lime he was having a siezure lmao. Thats pathetic.
I already explained why Glover/Harrigan did so well. The Predator was injured after tanking multiple shotgun shells from point blank, and losing an arm + falling and crashing through a wall.
Here it is:
City Hunter vs Harrigan also had context. And ignores everything that happened and how prepared Harrigan was against the City Hunter. The first time he gets tagged, Harrigan was running away from him. And CH was extremely close to him and walking slowly. He wasn't ready for Mike to pull out the weapon and shoot him:
And even then. He tanked all those bullets from close range and continued to fight.
And the next time he gets tagged, the Predator was just done using his breather device:
And the Predator tanked his arm getting chopped off and going through a wall with all those injuries:
And even after all of that. He managed to sneak his way up to Harrigan. And low-diffed him in CQC:
He only got tagged next because he actually thought Harrigan was fine for. And was about to finish him:
So, no. Your view on him being tagged so easily isn't true.
So this is far from pathetic for a Predator in that state.
Yakuza sword fight and killed Falcon Predator. Thats pathetic.
You're acting as if the Yakuza guy beat Falconer with negative/low difficulty.
If you had seen the fight. And I'm sure you did. You'd surely remember how tough it was for the Yakuza guy. And how he was clearly a decent/expert swordsman. And seeing how that was a weapon he was clearly familiar with. And knew how to use well enough to at least keep up with a blooded Predator in CQC. And he was still ragdolled when he landed a hit, and was the first to get hit in that fight. With Falconer slashing him across the back.
So your claims of it being "Just some Yakuza guy" or "Berserker took blow after blow from a club weilding Brody" are clearly unfounded. And is just a way to obviously lowball other Predators to make Prey Predator look better.
Which ends up with you doing the one thing you accused others of doing in this thread. Which is ignoring context.
You don't have to go this far to make Prey Predator look better.
Get ride of your rose tinted glasses.
What are those? They sound ghetto as hell. I only wear Gucci.
The Predator is going to lose to everyone here. If it can close the distance it might make a fight of it. Against Hawkeye and Widow, but it's not gonna close the distance against Hawkeye and likely not against Widow either.
@cryolancer47: such a long post and too tired to adress your hard work. Plus Im editing this as I am drinking and what I wrote was assholish as hell. So I will say most of these arguments can be found and argued against here. Been arguing with others past three days on Feral Pred vs whoever and too bored of the subject to adress the same shit for the fourth time now.
I spent past few days along with others shutting down arguments like yours.This Pred easy beats Wankeye and only possibly stops at Widow. Hard stops 3.
Slow hand clap for getting those gifs. That takes effort and work. Impressive post in that way so props. 👍
@kaijuking: You spent a lot of words to say "I'm too far up my own ass to acknowledge that you're entirely right on every point, but I'm gonna keep going out of my way to be wrong anyways with absolutely no evidence or reason"
Doesn't beat any superhuman MCU character like Hawkeye or Widow still. He isn't even laying a finger on them. Still. Thread is lasting way too long. Your attempt to make the shitty trappers look impressive is also laughable. Anyone on this list would clear them with far less difficulty and tags than this predator had.
@kaijuking: You spent a lot of words to say "I'm too far up my own ass to acknowledge that you're entirely right on every point, but I'm gonna keep going out of my way to be wrong anyways with absolutely no evidence or reason"
Doesn't beat any superhuman MCU character like Hawkeye or Widow still. He isn't even laying a finger on them. Still. Thread is lasting way too long. Your attempt to make the shitty trappers look impressive is also laughable. Anyone on this list would clear them with far less difficulty and tags than this predator had.
The issue is that post is same lies and twist context to suit you and others arguments. I dont tend to play that game of never ending arguments why your wrong and your views are shit. Not here anyway. Im hardly alone with noticing this hate train for Prey on Comicvine specifically. I spend more time debunking the shit posted on SpaceBattles. Thats why I posted links to those threads. Not dealing with the CV bias here. Thats all. Anyone reading this thread, whether now or years later if CV is still even around as a website lol, they can see the arguments and logic on the other side.
Hell the post debunks itself. states he was overpowered by the bear. That is lie he slam the bear just as much and one shot punch it to death. states it was bit by the wolf and could not hurt the wolf with a throw. So the post suggest weaker than a wolf. Post Falcon fight like its more impressive, but Falcon had zero damage and dealt with single sword human not small army of prep trappers, hollywood magic ninja Comanche, ect ect that Feral did. There is more logic holes and flat out lowballing. So why should I bother with such a lowballing attempting clown? I can lowball all the other Predators weakness and shit performance. Jungle has tons of those moments as does City Predator who only fought drugged up thugs high off their ass, and some unprepared city cops, as well Agents trying to take him alive and not kill him. Losing to DANNY GLOVER lol. I can go on. Its a shit post.
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