Pre-Retcon Beyonder vs Cosmic Armor Superman

Now, who wins?

once again. NOT DEBATING THIS.

"once again. NOT DEBATING THIS."

Yes i did!@

"Yes i did!@"

We all lose

Pre retcon, of course :-)

"We all lose"

Pre Retcon Beyonder wins as he is the Supream Being of his own multiverse.

For future reference Pre-retcon beyonder is (throwing out PIS) pretty much unbeatable. He was truly omnipotent.

Pre-Retcon Beyonder.

I'm not following any of this Cosmic Armor Supes crap.

" For future reference Pre-retcon beyonder is (throwing out PIS) pretty much unbeatable. He was truly omnipotent. "

Beyonder, as much as I know of him, in this form. He would beat anybody in any universe.

" @Valkaad said:

" For future reference Pre-retcon beyonder is (throwing out PIS) pretty much unbeatable. He was truly omnipotent. "

Incorrect. "

" How so? "

he was never beatin until they powered him down.

" he was never beatin until they powered him down. "

so who do you think wins then?

" @AtPhantom said:

" How so? "

He wasn't unbeatable. "

"@High Revolutionary said:

" @AtPhantom said:

" How so? "

He wasn't unbeatable. "

That's what the (throwing out PIS)part is there for. "

"@Valkaad said:

" For future reference Pre-retcon beyonder is (throwing out PIS) pretty much unbeatable. He was truly omnipotent. "

Incorrect."

"@randumo24 said:

" he was never beatin until they powered him down. "

It was never shown that Pre-con Beyonder was beyond the power of the LT.  This was just assumed because LT did nothing as he killed Death."

Beyonder will toy with pooper-scooper the same way you would toy with an ant before you kill it.

"How is this incorrect? Who could beat him? "he was pretty much unbeatable" is incorrect? What planet are you living on?

"@Valkaad said:

"How is this incorrect? Who could beat him? "he was pretty much unbeatable" is incorrect? What planet are you living on?

Just because it's the pre-retcon Beyonder, it doesn't mean his opponents are at the power level they were in pre-retcon days.Pretty much unbeatable is incorrect.Welcome to earth."

"So, name someone who either beat him or could beat him! "

"@Push said:

"So, name someone who either beat him or could beat him! "

MoM"

"your mom???  o.k. didn't know she was that powerfull lol "

"@Push said:

"your mom???  o.k. didn't know she was that powerfull lol "

Are you 5? lol"

"Ah, no, but thanx for asking! So, who were you talking bout, is basically what I was asking! "

"@Push said:

"Ah, no, but thanx for asking! So, who were you talking bout, is basically what I was asking! "

It wasn't a compliment. But you're welcome anyway.You've never heard of the Man of Miracles?"

" @High Revolutionary said:

"@Push said:

"Ah, no, but thanx for asking! So, who were you talking bout, is basically what I was asking! "

It wasn't a compliment. But you're welcome anyway.You've never heard of the Man of Miracles?"

Ah, yes, got ya! Sorry, the MoM threw me off, just didnt occure/hit me, that's all! Yes, i've heard of him, know of him, don't really read alot of image or spawn (gave it up before it hit 50)! Anyway, there's nothing to say he can win, and I guess it's safe to say there's nothing to say he can't, so it's all mere speculation. I personally don't see him in the same league as the Presence (DCU) or TOAA (Marvel), I'd put beyonder above him, personally, but that's just an opinion. P.S.  Whoever said anything bout compliments, other than you ;-) "

" @randumo24 said:

" he was never beatin until they powered him down. "

It was never shown that Pre-con Beyonder was beyond the power of the LT.  This was just assumed because LT did nothing as he killed Death. "

" LT would not have show up with the entourage begging Owen to intercede with the Beyonder. "

" @Tevnoba said:

" LT would not have show up with the entourage begging Owen to intercede with the Beyonder. "

In-Betweener did the begging. LT just stood there. "

"@Valkaad said:

"How is this incorrect? Who could beat him? "he was pretty much unbeatable" is incorrect? What planet are you living on?

Just because it's the pre-retcon Beyonder, it doesn't mean his opponents are at the power level they were in pre-retcon days.Pretty much unbeatable is incorrect.Welcome to earth."

Pre-Recton Beyonder can only be stalemated by beings such as Yog-Sothoth, The One above all, God, The Presence, the Invisible Pink Unicorn, and the Flying Spaghetti monster.  Actually no, the Flying Spaghetti monster would kick beyonder's arse.

" Are you serious? You must be joking (or in a vegetative state). If "pretty much unbeatable" is incorrect name 10 people that can truly beat him (10 don't exist)., Because even if only 10 people in all the multiverse can beat him that means that the other trillions cannnot and he is still "pretty much unbeatable. You cannot even name 5 people that can beat him you know why, because he is pretty much unbeatable. Pre-retcon beyonder was truly Omnipotent, he would have easily beaten Thanos with the infinity Gauntlet. Again, pre-retcon Molecule Man was more powerful than tribunal, and Beyonder defeated him. If you think pre-retcon beyonder isn't "pretty much unbeatable" you must live on an alternate earth. "

" LT does not make his presence know unless he is called forth to judge or places judgment - meaning he is taking action.  Read Secret Wars II - it even stated the Pre-Retcon Beyonder was millions of times more powerful than the sum of the Marvel Multiverse. "

"@Valkaad said:

" Are you serious? You must be joking (or in a vegetative state). If "pretty much unbeatable" is incorrect name 10 people that can truly beat him (10 don't exist)., Because even if only 10 people in all the multiverse can beat him that means that the other trillions cannnot and he is still "pretty much unbeatable. You cannot even name 5 people that can beat him you know why, because he is pretty much unbeatable. Pre-retcon beyonder was truly Omnipotent, he would have easily beaten Thanos with the infinity Gauntlet. Again, pre-retcon Molecule Man was more powerful than tribunal, and Beyonder defeated him. If you think pre-retcon beyonder isn't "pretty much unbeatable" you must live on an alternate earth. "

Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Are you thick?  Have you been dropped on your head one too many times?  Since the pre-retcon days, there have been more powerful characters revealed across the many comic universes. I just said that a being such as the Man of Miracles is more powerful than the Pre-Retcon Beyonder. "

Can some other people please weigh in on this. I would love to know, am I being crazy? isn't pre-retcon beyonder "pretty much unbeatable"? Doesn't the MAJORITY of you think he is "pretty much unbeatable"?

"Can some other people please weigh in on this. I would love to know, am I being crazy? isn't pre-retcon beyonder "pretty much unbeatable"? Doesn't the MAJORITY of you think he is "pretty much unbeatable"? "

Beyonder erases him and btw there is no such thing as 'Cosmic Armor Superman'

This isn't a fair fight. 

@god_spawn