Pre-Crisis Superman vs Saitama

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Saitama

  • Win by any means
  • Basic knowledge
  • In character
  • Start 5 meters apart
  • Fight on an indestructible planet
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Since it’s Pre crisis Superman, Superman wins as the character during the silver age was just a walking PIS character

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superman solo the verse

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saitama=busting jupiter with sneeze

superman=busting solar system with sneeze

lock this.

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#8  Edited By heiqn

Done yesterday and it was locked because of toxics lol

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Silver or Golden Age?

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Saitama sneezed Jupiter in half.

SA superman sneezed a solar system away.

Of course Superman

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SA Superman has ridiculous feats and embarrassing anti feats. It all depends on which ones you think are more consistent. I'd say if you even them out, and take into consideration Saitama's consistency, as well as his power growth then he should take this.

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Pre-Crisis Superman + Superboy Prime + Pre Crisis Shazam + Pre Crisis Mon-El + dozens of other Pre Crisis heroes = 1 Solar System.

People need to stop wanking DC and accept reality. Garou/Saitama/Blast blink this sub solar system level fodder from existence.

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#18  Edited By SirDragonFly

*when there is no brain to turn off*

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@cosmoman: Saitama's "low showings" are gags meant for comedy. They aren't real struggles that affect the plot in any way. Superman's anti feats come from different writers seeing him at different power levels, or a single writer introducing a struggle, however PIS it is, to make the story more "interesting".

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@cosmoman: Cat and Mosquito scale it's literally feats for them unless you can prove they are normal.

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Nyan>>>Regular Cat because Monster Cells make you stronger and Nyan was no sold by Saitama.

Mosquito Girl>>>>Regular Mosquito's that Genos Stomped.

Saitama>>>Mosquito Girl>>>Geno's>>>Reg Mosquitos

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@cosmoman: Not damage because he didn't say ouch and no blood on Nyan's claws what you see there are Nyans keratin smeared on Saitama's head due to the Mohs scale effect.

Later panels after that one show Saitama's head still shiny

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@cosmoman: It'd be up to you to prove he healed tbh

Super healing isn't a known/declared power of Saitama so you're stretching it.

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#31  Edited By Shadowone01x

Superman stomps Saitama!!!!

What Saitama fans refuse to accept is that SUPERMAN ALWAYS HOLDS BACK [even when he says he is not], a conditioning instilled in him by Pa Kent throughout his upbringing to avoid causing collosal mass deaths of people around him by accident. Superman himself has also noted this, and struggles with it and so has many other characters noted this.

Superman imposes limits on himself at the cost of himself in many instances to the point of getting killed and lower ordinary people like Lex and Batman can fight him yet Batman HIMSELF ADMITTED that Superman keeps holding back which is what he uses to his advantage PLUS use of Superman's weaknesses.

NOTE: Superman has surpassed all weaknesses MANY times. Telepathy, kryptonite, magic, red sun radiation, etc. Some would say surpassing his limits.

When even copycat pastiche characters of superman can challenge Shitama like Mister Majestic, Supreme, The Plutonian, Utopian, Sentry, etc....what chance does Saitama have against peak Superman?

Superman Comedic pastiche version or not.

Parody or not.

Copy or not.

Whatever flimsy fallacy excuse u can think of.

Superman still wipes his ass with Saitama.

Superman who became so powerful writers were running out of ideas... They had to keep rebooting universes and created an entire COLLECTION OF MULTIVERSES just to TRY to contain him as well as kept creating more and more weaknesses as they created weaker versions of superman [NOT always, lol]. And still Superman is still very OP above Saitama.

For goodness sake, when 2 supermen fought...the impact of each punch sent shockwave that was changing realities across the Multiverse. During the DC/Marvel crossover in the 90s, even Hulk who has PUNCHES TIME could NOT phase Superman with his punches. A other superman who could tear through reality/ space-time barrier with his bare hands to move from one universe into another.

Superman who broke the bonds of INFINITY.

Superman who tanked a full on direct assault beam from God Machine Brainiac/GMB who was multiversal or at least multi-dimensional connected and empowered by ALL alternate universe versions of himself across the multiverse.GMB hit Superman with an assault beam equivalent to The Bleed [a "membrane"/ interdimensional space that holds a multiverse together and enables travel across universes]. Superman TANKED THAT!!....Then proceeded to KO GBM with a punch hard it impacted all the Brainiacs across the multiverse, so powerful GBM's multiversal connection got severed.

Didn't Superman also resist physical deconstruction assault from H'el?

Superman who was able to use his "telescopic vision"/ eye beams to breach the time barrier and throw a raging ape into prehistoric time.

Supes who was able to pull multiple solar systems worth of planets from one galaxy to another ....all at the same time/simultaneously and using ONE HAND.

Superman who has punched through dimensional and universal barriers.

And has fought cosmic beings with the power of the big bang itself like Imperiex.

Oh boy, even if u try mitigate his feats against his "anti-feats" Superman will still waaay too OP over and above Saitama.

Sorry to say this but Shitama lost this fight BEFORE it began. By the time he catches up to current supeman feats, Superman would be SUGGSVERSAL by then. LMAO!!!!

Saitama looses to Supeman badly, unless Superman is seriously nerfed.

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Superman mid difficulty

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@frocharocha: Perhaps or may be not.

I think the best thing to do now is compare Saitama's feats to Superman's villains like perhaps Mongol or whichever other Bald head villains Superman has.

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SA Superman stomps, the dude was beyond OP and nearly flew into heaven til The Spectre stopped him.

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#35  Edited By john0221
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*When an admitted fly tries to comprehend a human brain*

Lulz (Derailment babble from the fly)
Lulz (Derailment babble from the fly)

OT:

Dad
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Son
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So beerus is moon level now? Either way that one feat gets hindered by 10 other anti-feats by alone lmao

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#36  Edited By ProfessorRespect  Online

Coin flip considering Pre-Crisis has no consistent levels of power until the last few years of existing. Sups in particular did suffer a fair deal from this as the thread pretty easily shows how he was flip-flopping.

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SA superman sneezed a solar system away.

Of course Superman

Was done with Mxy-amped sneezing powder iirc.

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#37  Edited By SuperDarth

Superman no-diffs. If people judge Flash exclusively by his high-ends, then Superman should get the same treatment.

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Superman no-diffs. If people judge Flash exclusively by his high-ends, then Superman should get the same treatment.

I don't think anyone does apart from people who can't argue Flash.

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"Was done with Mxy-amped sneezing powder iirc."

mxy make him sneez, that don't mean mxy amp superman to be able to destroy the solar system with his sneez.

i don't think the comics say mxy amp him\give him power, so nice try downplay pre crisis superman high ends.

either way, superman wins with high ends.

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@cosmoman said:
  • The one who blows away giant Stars & planets like birthday candles
4 instances
  • The one can tank Supernova explosions with 0 difficulty
2 Supernovas casually (his eye beams caused the second Nova)
  • The one who can chunk starships to the other side of a galaxy:
  • Overpowered a black hole that was pulling in Neighboring solar systems across the galaxy:
  • As a boy pulls a Superheavy Neutron star off Kryto that has the "pull of 12 supernovas"
Also flys at a speed that dwarfs light
  • Overpowers the shields of Stargrave who casually stopped Time Trapper's galaxy scarring destruction:
Actually outmuscled Pulsar Stargrave
  • Fast enough to race flash & regularly travel through time with raw speed, that how he visited the legion of Superheroes on all their adventures:
Even Blitz's his time traveling peer Ultra-boy
  • His eye beams can seal dimensional rifts and reach the temperature of 1,000 suns:
  • Regularly holds his own against people with galaxy-outputs:
Pre-Crisis New Gods
  • Can pull galaxies & can destroy half a galaxy 《easily》
  • Can withstand and push through the Big Bang
  • Can regularly fight Maaldor, who is universal in output:
Base maaldor could Annihilate galaxies "with a thought" And "Direct the energy of an entire Universe" -DC comics.
  • Can restore entire timelines with his power alone:
  • Maaldor goes from Universal to Multiversal (threat to all Universes) and Superman lobotomizes him:
His giant universe will pull in all others
His giant universe will pull in all others
Confirmed existence/all Universes level
Superman saved the infinite Universes
Superman saved the infinite Universes

He is a walkikng plot force or toon force. Superman will win this

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All this because of one outlier at best. Clark stomps.

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All this because of one outlier at best. Clark stomps.

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Supes sneezes the verse away

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pre crisis?

superman stomps....

it will be saitama to the side that is destroyed in one hit

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@rushlife said:

pre crisis?

superman stomps....

it will be saitama to the side that is destroyed in one hit

False

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Could go either way, both are universal.

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Superman one shots + verse

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Someone please do Pegasus Seiya vs Saitama next so we can let it all coming.