Powerless Naruto vs Powerless Ichigo vs Powerless Luffy

who of the main protagonists in shonen win

rules: no superhuman abilities, or strength/speed. no kyuubi. no haki

intel: none

location: chunin exam arena

mindset: all out

Probably Naruto. Actual H2H and Weapon training.

Naruto>>Luffy>>>Ichigo

Naruto most likely has the best training out of the bunch.

Luffy doesn't have a single day of training in his life, but his instincts are all he needs. He regularly goes move-for-move with some of the most skilled and experienced fighters in the whole world just through his innate instincts, they sometimes border on complete clairvoyance.

Naruto are training everyday and especially when he learned rasengan, realize or not his fist become stronger than before, it's current naruto could even made double massive rasen shuriken with ease, I wonder how powerful is his current fist. I think Naruto wins

This is actually a pretty hard call...

in terms of training Naruto>Ichigo>Luffy.

In terms of instincts Luffy >ichigo> naruto.

so uh... Pick one.

Probably Naruto. Actual H2H and Weapon training.

i believe its canon that ichigo won martial arts tournaments alongside tatsuki. thats how he could so quickly learn to fight with a huge sword and match other shinigamis

Naruto is the only one with formal training in h2h. Top spot is obvious. Ichigo's major deal is with sword - luffy's experience wins him the second spot.

@princearagorn1: Ichigo has had martial arts training since a young child.

also this. yes this whole post was an excuse just to post that clip.

Bleach needed more of the Father, and Chad needed to become Ichigo's Zoro.

naruto

Didn't Ichigo beat up entire gangs when he was in his own body?

Ichigo is definitely dead-last no matter how you look at it. He was after all, just a regular high schooler who practices Karate as a hobby before gaining his powers. The fight between Luffy and Naruto would be closer since Naruto received proper military training as a child while Luffy had to fight for survival due to Garp being a major d*ck, but I'll side with Naruto due to better experience with weapon .

<-< Umm folks.................do any of you actually remember how broken depower Ichigo was? Go back and read the Fullbringer arc.

Ichigo's dad was either a strong captain of the gotei 13, the leaders of the death gods, or a member of Zero Squad, the personal guardians of basically god himself. He had trained ichigo since he was a child to the point that he was able to outright stomp multiple opponents his own age group. Some people in his town actually feared him.

Luffy has almost no skill feats without his rubber powers aiding him in some way. His entire fighting style revolves around those powers, so without them he's losing a huge portion of his fighting ability. Of all the contenders here, he's actually been nerfed the hardest because if he tried to fight how he actually does here....his arms would break. His moveset ruined, so IMO he honestly has no chance compared to people of equal stats who are more comfortable with the OP's skillsets (i.e. have h2h training with normal movement).

Naruto wins, but that is no suprise.

Ninja with extensive training vs streetfighter vs streetfighter with a little training

Everyone seems to agree Naruto is at the top well i believe Ichigo is second.

I mean, I don't know who wins, but Luffy's pain tolerance is too ridiculous for this fight, he could probably take a nap while the others beat on him without caring.

His pain tolerance is because of his rubber body. Since they're all human here, he doesn't have it. Nardo followed by ichigo

@thelocust619:

I 100% agree with your post. Although it is unfortunate you are one of the only ones here who actually has good logical reasoning that supports your argument.

I'd say Luffy is outclassed here, without his powers or stats he's basically nothing compared to two trained and skilled fighters

Naruto > Ichigo > Luffy

Luffy.

Or Goku.

Ichigo solos gangs, he was basically a peak human in the beginning of the anime.

You guys are making me laugh with all these "Naruto's the only one with training".

Ichigo > Tatski who got, I believe it was second, in the national female tournament while she had a broken arm. (IIRC)

In the anime he cracked roads with kicks.

He can break magic spells through sheer strength

He can tank being hit by giants

And this is BoS. Do I need to look at the Fullbring Arc?

I think this video does a good job at showing how skilled Naruto is.

(If I were you I'd mute the video)

@noone301994: I second the muting thing just trust him.

Naruto (taijutsu training).

Just posting a few videos of Ichigo's life before his shinigami days.

And this clip is him after he had been depowered, physically he was much faster and stronger.

It is on 7:59 of the video. I believe Ichigo takes the second spot here.

If Luffy actually had his base stats he would stomp.

Bump? I think there's a lot more to be said. I mean, Naruto definitely wins no problem. Ichigo in second place has a lot more training than people think, and luffy in third place has literally no training at all. Throwing him into a savage animal infested forest =\= H2H training or skill.

As for stats, well I assume the op means base stats in direct correlation to people of they age and build + training amount, since the op said "no superhuman strength/speed". So that would mean that Luffy has the strength and speed of an above average 19 year old male who I would say works out almost daily since luffy pretty muscular and no formal martial arts or combat training, Ichigo would have the stats of an average 17-19 year old male who leisurely trains in karate, and Naruto would have the stats of an above average adult (27-30) prime aged male who trains almost constantly and is pretty muscular himself + legit taijutsu/ninja/h2h training that includes weapon using as well.

So all in all, my actual backed up reasoning for why Naruto takes this is because his straight up masterful level of fighting skill (video clip someone posted above, fights pain in taijutsu, fights momoshiki in taijutsu, fights Sasuke in taijutsu, beat a dozen toneri puppets at once without being hit once or taken down even when five puppets alone could take down a confirmed Kage level taijutsu ninja beforehand etc.) mixed with prime adulthood physicals and gymnastics (agility/manoeuvrability) as we see dis man hopping around and flipping and somersaulting n' shit with little effort.

Lastly, because of his trainings in armed combat, we know that Naruto is pretty damn deadly (especially to regular humans) with his skills. As he knows how to use kunai and shuriken proficiently allowing him to cut and stab and ultimately kill up close in melee OR from a distance.

Naruto should win but Ichigo has a real shot at wining, he's gone through a lot of training.

naruto stomps

luffy dies

Naruto easily

Naruto>Ichigo>Luffy

Naruto

Adult Naruto wins, he seemed to rank up his taijutsu skills.

naruto wins that's obvious, however, I wonder how much would change if Ichigo had an average sword and Luffy had brass knuckles( literally no other weapon matches with luffy so give me a break )

Ichigo has strongest build , they are half his height and he fought gangs at his school

Naruto easily

@maxxcveiler: Adult Naruto the tallest one here tho lmao

OT: naruto

Adult Naruto is 180cm, while Ichigo is 181cm. Luffy's the smaller one here at 174cm.

Isn't Luffy completely stomped here? Without his powers he's just a short twig

Naruto is the better combatant here.

So they're both in the 5'9 range 0.0

I was just going off visualization lmao

Must be drawing error

Naruto.

@ivexio2 said:

@ovy7 said:

@ivexio2 said:

@maxxcveiler: Adult Naruto the tallest one here tho lmao

Adult Naruto is 180cm, while Ichigo is 181cm. Luffy's the smaller one here at 174cm.

So they're both in the 5'9 range 0.0

I was just going off visualization lmao

Must be drawing error

Well, Ichigo was always taller, Naruto only caught up with his adult version.

Also, that image is weird as all hell. Like, Hinata is 163cm, which would make both Boruto and Himawari less than 1m tall lol (which is probably ok for Himawari but isn't Boruto like 12?).