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Poll: Pokemon vs Dragon ball z. (26 votes)

Arceus 19%
Dialga 4%
Goku 31%
Vegito 58%
Nothing 4%

Lets know the winner

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#1 Posted by SigmaZone (138 posts) - - Show Bio

Mismatch...

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#2 Posted by TSciallsolle3451 (794 posts) - - Show Bio

SSJ2 Goku alone stomps Arceus. Mismatch.

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#3 Posted by naraskutty (67 posts) - - Show Bio

@tsciallsolle3451: Hello mr did u know the power of arceus.dont think only about goku.

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#4 Posted by TSciallsolle3451 (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@tsciallsolle3451: Hello mr did u know the power of arceus.dont think only about goku.

Yeah, I know. He was taken down by street level pokemon and a meteor. Feats matter.

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#5 Posted by naraskutty (67 posts) - - Show Bio

@tsciallsolle3451: if those street level pokemons show their work on goku then what happens ?

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#6 Posted by TSciallsolle3451 (794 posts) - - Show Bio

@tsciallsolle3451: if those street level pokemons show their work on goku then what happens ?

Goku simply casually slaps them away with his left backhand

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#9 Posted by Aimless (2047 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku really wins no matter what.Go by feats only,Goku wins.Go by hype,Goku still wins

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#10 Posted by naraskutty (67 posts) - - Show Bio

@aimless: Cosmic Power

1 Punishment

1 Seismic Toss

1 Natural Gift

10 Gravity

20 Earth Power

30 Hyper Voice

40 Extreme Speed

50 Refresh. Did u forgot

60 Future Sight PSYCHIC

70 Recover NORMAL

80 Hyper Beam

90 Perish Song

100 Judgment. did u forgot those moves

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#11 Posted by Aimless (2047 posts) - - Show Bio

@naraskutty: I remember the moves very clearly.None of Arceus' moves including judgement have destroyed even a city

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#12 Posted by naraskutty (67 posts) - - Show Bio

Remember,Fighting skills will not work against Arceus

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#13 Posted by ArranVidReturns (1177 posts) - - Show Bio

Is the meteor incident against Arceus (Crapeus) PIS? Arceus is a lame Pokemon creation anyway. Can't Vegito solo the Pokemonverse? I went with Vegito. Mew should've been God...go away Arceus

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#14 Posted by naraskutty (67 posts) - - Show Bio

@arranvidreturns: Did u tell mew should be in place of god?according to pokemon mythology arceus born before the born of universe and create pokemon universe.Mew and mewto is just ant for arceus.when dialga,palkia,giratina attacks no one even touch arceus

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#16 Posted by naraskutty (67 posts) - - Show Bio

@aimless: Arceus special move judgement have ability to destroy wholething,but in animie dialga,palkia,giratina interferes

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#17 Posted by Aimless (2047 posts) - - Show Bio

@naraskutty: When was judgement ever stated to destroy anything?

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#18 Posted by naraskutty (67 posts) - - Show Bio

@aimless: Finally when arceus sees ash ,but it freezes the move

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#19 Posted by fat_hobo389 (2400 posts) - - Show Bio

@arranvidreturns: if you are going by the anime or manga then anyone from namek saga can solo Pokémonverse.

if you're going by pokemon games then it'll take omniking,

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#20 Edited by lettsplay10 (20588 posts) - - Show Bio

Vegito stomps

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#21 Posted by naraskutty (67 posts) - - Show Bio

@aimless: when all 3 legendaty pokemons fainted,arceus starts to use judgement freely without interfere but it freezes the move according to story line

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#22 Posted by naraskutty (67 posts) - - Show Bio
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#23 Posted by naraskutty (67 posts) - - Show Bio

@fat_hobo389: Yeah ur right! Arceus real hidden powers only shown in game and not on animie

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#24 Edited by lettsplay10 (20588 posts) - - Show Bio

@naraskutty said:

@lettsplay10: Can u tell vegito stomps arceus or dialga

All of them including arceus

if a meteor can hurt arceus vegito can spam meteor level ki blasts at arceus killing him

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#25 Posted by naraskutty (67 posts) - - Show Bio

If Goku and Vegito together beat arceus,a single refresh move can push its health to maximum,then we can see their both faces like a duck on confusion.however,really they cannot even go near it

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#27 Posted by lettsplay10 (20588 posts) - - Show Bio

@lettsplay10: Its not fainted nor hurted arceus after being hitted by the meteor.it just get away of its plates.Even without jewel of life(half plates) it finished all 3 legndary pokemons.

Vegito oneshots even Pikachu hurt Arceus

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#28 Posted by fat_hobo389 (2400 posts) - - Show Bio

@tsciallsolle3451: @arranvidreturns: @lettsplay10: yes by your logic arceus even of anime should stomp goku then.

since in the last episode of dbs goku was hurt by bullets and was also couldn't properly react to that bullet.

GG.

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#29 Posted by Mass_Fantasy (1818 posts) - - Show Bio

Arceus solos via hype.

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#30 Posted by naraskutty (67 posts) - - Show Bio
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#31 Posted by Amendment50 (11542 posts) - - Show Bio

Assuming this is anime versions of the Pokemon since it's against DBZ, Vegito stomps the other 3 all at the same time...

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#32 Posted by naraskutty (67 posts) - - Show Bio
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#33 Edited by fat_hobo389 (2400 posts) - - Show Bio

@mass_fantasy: in the games arceus has universal+ feats. dialga and palkia has universal feats.

by hype it's multi universal.

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#34 Posted by Amendment50 (11542 posts) - - Show Bio

I do feel the need to qualify that though with the same thing I say in every thread with Arceus in it. That is that games Arceus/lore Arceus/composite Arceus is not the same as anime Arceus. And if it were Arceus from the games it would win here.

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#35 Posted by naraskutty (67 posts) - - Show Bio
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#36 Posted by naraskutty (67 posts) - - Show Bio

Every one listen The arceus that participated in this contest combined of both games and animie

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#37 Edited by fat_hobo389 (2400 posts) - - Show Bio

@naraskutty: I didn't vote since it isn't clear.

but if it's anime/manga version of arceus then it's a mismatch of epic proportion.

if it's game then arceus stomps effortlessly everyone in db/dbz/dbs except omniking.

against whom it could go either way.

but I must warn you that dbz vs anything that is not originated from anime or manga is banned in this site.

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#38 Edited by Aimless (2047 posts) - - Show Bio

@mass_fantasy: in the games arceus has universal+ feats. dialga and palkia has universal feats.

by hype it's multi universal.

Prove it.

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#43 Posted by fat_hobo389 (2400 posts) - - Show Bio

@aimless: dialga and palkia were creating a new universe and erasing the current one in pokemon diamond/pearl/platinum

they were only stopped by the lake guardians.

in mystery dungeon explorers of sky/time/darkness a weaker and more deranged version of primal dialga was going to erase. whole creation was only stopped when the time gear was returned.

in hgss arceus can create a dialga/palkia/giratina.

and if we go by game lore then arceus is the creator of all.

and in oras, sun and moon, and every mystery dungeon game confirms that pokemon verse is a multi universe if not a multiverse, which also contains several dimensions like dimensions where the ultra beasts came from, parallel universes where only pokemon inhabits etc.

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#44 Posted by ArranVidReturns (1177 posts) - - Show Bio

@arranvidreturns: Did u tell mew should be in place of god?according to pokemon mythology arceus born before the born of universe and create pokemon universe.Mew and mewto is just ant for arceus.when dialga,palkia,giratina attacks no one even touch arceus

That's the current storyline...which I HATE by the way dude. Mew should've been God but Game Freak changed their mind. Damn them.

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#45 Posted by Aimless (2047 posts) - - Show Bio

@aimless: dialga and palkia were creating a new universe and erasing the current one in pokemon diamond/pearl/platinum

they were only stopped by the lake guardians.

in mystery dungeon explorers of sky/time/darkness a weaker and more deranged version of primal dialga was going to erase. whole creation was only stopped when the time gear was returned.

in hgss arceus can create a dialga/palkia/giratina.

and if we go by game lore then arceus is the creator of all.

and in oras, sun and moon, and every mystery dungeon game confirms that pokemon verse is a multi universe if not a multiverse, which also contains several dimensions like dimensions where the ultra beasts came from, parallel universes where only pokemon inhabits etc.

Ah,you see,in your first post you said Arceus has universal+ feats,but all you've given are statements.Problem is,Goku's blows in a weaker form were also stated to be able to destroy the universe.Later,his kamehameha was also hyped to be universe busting,before Beerus nullified it.So if we use statements/hype,Goku himself is universal+,with Vegetto being a tier ahead of that.

And if we go by pure feats or even scaling,Arceus outright gets destroyed.So either way really,dbz team takes it.Arceus has no feats of creating or destroying universes.In fact,the pokedex states Arceus shaped the universe with it's 1000 arms,nothing about creation was ever shown.Besides:

Mismatch and DBZ vs. non-anime/manga.

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#46 Edited by fat_hobo389 (2400 posts) - - Show Bio

@aimless: being a hypocrite are you

what statements they were doing that on screen.

both in dpp and mystery dungeon.

they are as legit as gokus so called universal Kamehameha.

primal dialga alone was going to destroy the multi universe aka creation of pokeverse.

if you count statements from whis and elder kai about universe destruction as legit feats then you'd be hypocrite to not count dialga palkia and primal dialga's feat.

and stop giving half information goku beerus and everyone would have died if the universe was destroyed,any one of creation trio wouldn't have.

by FEATS SHOWN ON SCREEN ARCEUS STOMPS goku.

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#47 Edited by AlexTheBoss (9083 posts) - - Show Bio

@mysticmedivh: I know the rules, but Pokémon is such a prevalent anime it doesn't make too much sense to say it's against the rules.

Also I think a manga for it came out around the time the first game came out.

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#48 Posted by fat_hobo389 (2400 posts) - - Show Bio

@arranvidreturns: what current storyline.

pokemon has only one storyline.

mew was never ment to be god.

according to gamefreak themselves there was a time when the species of mew were as common as any other pokemon. they got extinct. they are legends in the same way as genesect.

mewtwo was considered the most powerful pokemon in gen 1.

the whole mewtwo being strongest pokemon in the world statement was made by takeshi shoudo who was only the writer of anime and he had no real authority over pokemon.

mewtwo and mew were dethroned as the strongest way back in gen 3.

when they introduced the likes of deoxys, rayquaza, jirachi etc and that's not hype or by stats but by showings of power and feats.

hell deoxys even owned mewtwo in the manga. and only reason mewtwo even won because of interference of other pokedex holders.

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#49 Edited by Amendment50 (11542 posts) - - Show Bio

Honest to god people Arceus made the Pokemon universe.

Interpret feats and decide battles however you want but the lore is that Arceus made the Pokemon universe. It did not happen on screen but it happened. It's not questionable that it happened, in the main Pokemon canon anyway. I don't understand why this is so heavily contested. IMO it's just people ignoring common sense in favor of battles forum logic, for the sake of lowballing.

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#50 Edited by ArranVidReturns (1177 posts) - - Show Bio

@fat_hobo389: Mega Mewtwo X/Y base stats total says different. 780 makes it one of the best and Mewtwo already had a higher base stat total than Kyogre and Groudon so no Gen 3 didn't dethrone Mewtwo at all imo. Anyway I don't want to get into that debate...Arceus is a dork...the end.