Phantom Troupe (HxH) vs Straw Hats

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Pre skip Straw Hats.

Fight takes place on Sabaody.

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Do any of them even have the means of hurting the weaker strawhats?(Chopper, Franky for instance) or even tagging some of them(Robin, Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, Brook, Usopp?)

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Ah this is pre-timeskip.(change the goddamn image)

Same question applies tbh .

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@deathhero61: They have Uvogin who should be able to seriously hurt anyone except the M3 imo. And they are packed with lots of nasty hax.

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Leaning Phantom Troupe for nowl

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Pretty sure the SH blitz

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Chrollo, Uvogin, and Feitan deal with the Monster Trio. The rest of the PT defeat the rest of the SH.

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Unless Phantom Troupe has gotten significantly better feats in the current arc, Master Trio all solo stomp.

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@shirso:

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Chrollo, Uvogin, and Feitan deal with the Monster Trio. The rest of the PT defeat the rest of the SH.

This is a terrible mismatch. I'd argue Luffy solos as he is MHS + while the Phantom Troupe are barely pushing hypersonic. Zoro and Sanji could even solo with their durability and DC. And Uvogins isn't doing crap to Luffy, the same person who tanked Island level strikes in base.

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Monster Trio all solo.

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@shirso: The comment was made with that in mind.

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@shirso: Pre time skip Luffy is still a lightning timer and could keep up with the likes of Lucci. Pre time skip Luffy was still tanking island level attacks from Moriah. Pre time skip Luffy was easily breaking through bedrock and destroying multiple city blocks while weakened. Pre time skip Luffy is soloing the Phantom Troupe, and I'd argue, the Hunter X Hunter verse via speed blitz.

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Leaning Phantom Troupe for nowl

How the hell did you come to that conclusion lol...

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Robin could solo via snapping there necks

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@gearsecond659: remember Feitan vs Zazzan? His speed was definitely faster than the eye could track and he simultaneously sent an insane number of feints. This isn't even considering that crazy sun attack and apparently he gets more powerful the more hurt he gets. He definitely needs someone from the Monster Trio to take him, maybe Zorro.

Only luffy himself would considered too fast. Although luffy is in an inured state.

The troupe are not bloodlusted, but they will have no hesitation to kill, meaning Nami, Ussop, chopper, and robin would be instantly out of the game.

I believe after that the troupe wins by numbers (12 v 4), experience, teamwork, and general fighting skill. They also have more 'tricks up their sleves'. Don't forget chrollo and his book of stolen nen abilities.

Feitan's Pain Packer and Rising Sun kinda solo.

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@gearsecond659: remember Feitan vs Zazzan? His speed was definitely faster than the eye could track and he simultaneously sent an insane number of feints. This isn't even considering that crazy sun attack and apparently he gets more powerful the more hurt he gets. He definitely needs someone from the Monster Trio to take him, maybe Zorro.

Oh FTE speed. So impressive lol. It's not like BoS Luffy was casually tagging FTE characters with relative ease

Only luffy himself would considered too fast. Although luffy is in an inured state.

Dude. Franky solos the Phantom Troupe in my opinion.

The troupe are not bloodlusted, but they will have no hesitation to kill, meaning Nami, Ussop, chopper, and robin would be instantly out of the game.

What? All of thr Straw Hats you just mentioned have beaten people who are willing to kill and Nami and Usopp are not fodder here. Nami held her own against the MHS Kalifa and Usopp tagged the MHS + Luffy. Chopper tagged Kumadori, who is MHS + and Robin just insta kills with her neck snapping.

I believe after that the troupe wins by numbers (12 v 4), experience, teamwork, and general fighting skill. They also have more 'tricks up their sleves'. Don't forget chrollo and his book of stolen nen abilities.

They still get speed blitzed though. Like versatility will only take you so far when you get stomped in every other category.

Feitan's Pain Packer and Rising Sun kinda solo.

Luffy oneshots Feitan lmao.

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Straw Hats.

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Tbh just make the speed equalized

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Any of the Monster Trio solo.

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Phantom Troupe because they are willing to kill and are not affected by the power of friendship and talk no jutsu.

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@yeimsick said:

Phantom Troupe because they are willing to kill and are not affected by the power of friendship and talk no jutsu.

Flawless logic lol

It's not like Luffy has defeated people who are willing to kill and are no affected by talk no jutsu

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Straw Hats stomp, Luffy blitzes.

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Phantom Troupe cause I'm biased. Waifu force ftw.

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@gearsecond659: I won't deny that One Piece characters, even pre time skip are faster than any of the Troupe, and the OP didn't state whether the Troupe had prep or not, but they have enough power to kill the Strawmen with ample time and prep, it is also not in character for Luffy to kill, if given time the Troupe can cast their special nen abilities and get a win, if they start off face to face, then yea the Troupe could lose but if Luffy tries to beat Feitan while he soaks damage for his Pain Packer to take affect, also

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@gearsecond659: I won't deny that One Piece characters, even pre time skip are faster than any of the Troupe, and the OP didn't state whether the Troupe had prep or not, but they have enough power to kill the Strawmen with ample time and prep, it is also not in character for Luffy to kill, if given time the Troupe can cast their special nen abilities and get a win, if they start off face to face, then yea the Troupe could lose but if Luffy tries to beat Feitan while he soaks damage for his Pain Packer to take affect, also

Luffy one shots Feitan. Feitan has no durability feats that suggest he can tank one punch from Luffy. And while he doesn't kill, he will knock you out, which is just as an effectivew a tactic against the Troupe.

And the Troupe loses with or without prep. Either way, Luffy solos.

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Haven't watched HxH in a while, but from what I remember the straw hats win.

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@gearsecond659: There is nothing to suggest a non-nen user would be even able to fight if a nen user were to use En, even skilled Nen users such as Knov can be scared when their nen is turned off such as Knovs was when he was near Poufs nen.

Uvogin caught a bullet with his teeth, and dodge chains fast enough to catch bullets, he could give pre-skip Luffy a good battle. Chrollo has a few haxs and is a great prepper, he could teleport the straws away or he could use fun fun cloth to BFR.

Or Shalnark can make the straws her toys, the others have good support abilities that if used in conjunction with Chrollos master prep abilities, I can't see the Strawmen winning, the Troupe are more diverse and the Straws at this point aren't good enough to handle a team like this that has no qualms of killing.

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@gearsecond659: There is nothing to suggest a non-nen user would be even able to fight if a nen user were to use En, even skilled Nen users such as Knov can be scared when their nen is turned off such as Knovs was when he was near Poufs nen.

Except they won't even have time to turn on their En for a variety of reasons. For one, Luffy will speed blitz them before they can even react. Like, when the difference in physicals is this substantial, hax won't sway the odds in their favor. Two, the Phantom Troupe don't have knowledge on the Straw Hats and as such, will assume that they are Nen users. Thus, it would be useless to use their En in combat from their perspective. In addition, they have never used their En in a combat setting.

Uvogin caught a bullet with his teeth, and dodge chains fast enough to catch bullets, he could give pre-skip Luffy a good battle. Chrollo has a few haxs and is a great prepper, he could teleport the straws away or he could use fun fun cloth to BFR.

LMAO! Luffy reacted to lightning and blitzed an enemy way over the lightning timing range. That shits on every feat Uvogin you have shown. Chrollo's hax doesn't mean anything if he can't tag the far faster Luffy. And you forget that the OP doesn't state that they have prep, so...

Or Shalnark can make the straws her toys, the others have good support abilities that if used in conjunction with Chrollos master prep abilities, I can't see the Strawmen winning, the Troupe are more diverse and the Straws at this point aren't good enough to handle a team like this that has no qualms of killing.

Yeah, Shalnark gets speed blitzed before he can even pull out his weapon. Or Nico Robin kills them all by cracking their necks. The Straw Hats don't fall short in versatility and stomp in every other category imaginable.

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Yeah, Luffy, Zoro, Sanji, and Robin solo.

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umm even pre time skip luffy is like island level cause he fought (maria 1,000 shadows )whos able to break his ship in half which is island size sooooooo stomp luffy just by him self solo lol.

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#33  Edited By vintorez

The Monster Trio was way beyond lightning timing after Skypiea and has far surpassed Multi City Block level AP after Alabasta, they statue, blitz and one shots the whole group.

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The only thing that gives the troup a chance is nen haxing