" @Samurai X: he was still living . even though it was only that piece of his face he was still alive. Goku at ss3 had reality distortion , as it was said that at that power level reality distortion is possible ( ie majin buu turning stuff to chocalate, and gotenks turning thing to volleyballs). "Goku never had reality warping abilities
Perfect Cell VS The X-Men & The Brotherhood of "Evil"Mutants
how? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness." Cell gets mind wiped. "
Cell may not at 100 class strengh but dont forget that cell able to destroy planet and cell no need to fight with juggernaut Cell just need to destroy the planet and any living being will die including jugger and jugger wont ever able to touch cell because of cell speed
"Cell may not at 100 class strengh but dont forget that cell able to destroy planet and cell no need to fight with juggernaut Cell just need to destroy the planet and any living being will die including jugger and jugger wont ever able to touch cell because of cell speed "
He would still be very much alive, no matter what Cell does to Juggernaut, he will live.
Best bet for Juggs is BFR, but still I am thinking Cell gets mind raped long before this happens, the andriods / cell never actually had the chance to face a telepath especially on the level of the Telepaths on the X team, so theres really no reason to assume outright, considering the guy seemed very much a biological life form with a humanoid mind he wouldn't get mind raped.
" @Hellos said:When was this once ever stated? Oh thats right, neverhow? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness. "" Cell gets mind wiped. "
Cell isnt the collective of millions of consiousness either, seriously can you people cut the crap
Too many omega mutants with no speed
Cell will kill 90% of the team before they knew the fight started
Cell is a freaking android so no mindjobs for him
either juggs just quits after he cant hit cell just like ultra trunks vs cell...or he gets absorbed.
cell wins
" @Grand Ninja said:he absorbed millions of people. if you don't anything about it, why be in this thread?" @Hellos said:When was this once ever stated? Oh thats right, never Cell isnt the collective of millions of consiousness either, seriously can you people cut the crap "how? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness. "" Cell gets mind wiped. "
" @Samurai X said:In no way shape or form does that mean he has the collective of millions of consciousnesses" @Grand Ninja said:he absorbed millions of people. if you don't anything about it, why be in this thread? "" @Hellos said:When was this once ever stated? Oh thats right, never Cell isnt the collective of millions of consiousness either, seriously can you people cut the crap "how? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness. "" Cell gets mind wiped. "
I think its you that has no clue what hes talking about
" Too many omega mutants with no speed Cell will kill 90% of the team before they knew the fight started Cell is a freaking android so no mindjobs for him either juggs just quits after he cant hit cell just like ultra trunks vs cell...or he gets absorbed. cell wins "I think this whole battle comes down to FTL. If you believe he is FTL then I guess he wins, otherwise he can't.
I personally don't think he has FTL movement.
" Too many omega mutants with no speed Cell will kill 90% of the team before they knew the fight started Cell is a freaking android so no mindjobs for him either juggs just quits after he cant hit cell just like ultra trunks vs cell...or he gets absorbed. cell wins "He's biological and has never been shown to be immune to mind rape.
" @Grand Ninja said:piccolo just said while he saw and heard, the screaming of millions of souls. souls are a form of consciousness." @Samurai X said:In no way shape or form does that mean he has the collective of millions of consciousnesses I think its you that has no clue what hes talking about "" @Grand Ninja said:he absorbed millions of people. if you don't anything about it, why be in this thread? "" @Hellos said:When was this once ever stated? Oh thats right, never Cell isnt the collective of millions of consiousness either, seriously can you people cut the crap "how? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness. "" Cell gets mind wiped. "
" @Samurai X said:Speculation you have no idea what effect this would have on mind rape, if any. He doesn't have any feats that suggest that he is somehow immune to it." @Grand Ninja said:piccolo just said while he saw and heard, the screaming of millions of souls. souls are a form of consciousness. "" @Samurai X said:In no way shape or form does that mean he has the collective of millions of consciousnesses I think its you that has no clue what hes talking about "" @Grand Ninja said:he absorbed millions of people. if you don't anything about it, why be in this thread? "" @Hellos said:When was this once ever stated? Oh thats right, never Cell isnt the collective of millions of consiousness either, seriously can you people cut the crap "how? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness. "" Cell gets mind wiped. "
mind reaping is always a risk, specially when you are mind reaping someone like Cell. Personally, I think it is more likely they could mind rape him, but they wouldn't have time to react. Regardless if he is FTL or just hundreds of times faster then sound, they wont be able to do anything before he kills them. Some of them would survive but he could easily BFR them with his telekinetic powers." @Grand Ninja said:
Speculation you have no idea what effect this would have on mind rape, if any. He doesn't have any feats that suggest that he is somehow immune to it. "" @Samurai X said:
piccolo just said while he saw and heard, the screaming of millions of souls. souls are a form of consciousness. "" @Grand Ninja said:
" @Samurai X said:In no way shape or form does that mean he has the collective of millions of consciousnesses I think its you that has no clue what hes talking about "" @Grand Ninja said:he absorbed millions of people. if you don't anything about it, why be in this thread? "" @Hellos said:When was this once ever stated? Oh thats right, never Cell isnt the collective of millions of consiousness either, seriously can you people cut the crap "how? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness. "" Cell gets mind wiped. "
" @Baldy said:Why would it be risky? He has never shown resistance to it. Where does it show him being hundreds of times the speed of sound?mind reaping is always a risk, specially when you are mind reaping someone like Cell. Personally, I think it is more likely they could mind rape him, but they wouldn't have time to react. Regardless if he is FTL or just hundreds of times faster then sound, they wont be able to do anything before he kills them. Some of them would survive but he could easily BFR them with his telekinetic powers." @Grand Ninja said:
Speculation you have no idea what effect this would have on mind rape, if any. He doesn't have any feats that suggest that he is somehow immune to it. "" @Samurai X said:
piccolo just said while he saw and heard, the screaming of millions of souls. souls are a form of consciousness. "" @Grand Ninja said:
" @Samurai X said:In no way shape or form does that mean he has the collective of millions of consciousnesses I think its you that has no clue what hes talking about "" @Grand Ninja said:he absorbed millions of people. if you don't anything about it, why be in this thread? "" @Hellos said:When was this once ever stated? Oh thats right, never Cell isnt the collective of millions of consiousness either, seriously can you people cut the crap "how? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness. "" Cell gets mind wiped. "
"
When Cell first time appeared they said they are sensing Frieza, goku, Vegeta, Cold ect. inside him, and that was before he absorbed millions of peoples. Cell can split him self in 4 just like Tien which should make it more complicated for them to mind rape him. he can make Cell kids, so even if they mind rape him Cell kids would kill them." @Mortein said:
Why would it be risky? He has never shown resistance to it. Where does it show him being hundreds of times the speed of sound? "" @Baldy said:
mind reaping is always a risk, specially when you are mind reaping someone like Cell. Personally, I think it is more likely they could mind rape him, but they wouldn't have time to react. Regardless if he is FTL or just hundreds of times faster then sound, they wont be able to do anything before he kills them. Some of them would survive but he could easily BFR them with his telekinetic powers." @Grand Ninja said:
Speculation you have no idea what effect this would have on mind rape, if any. He doesn't have any feats that suggest that he is somehow immune to it. "" @Samurai X said:
piccolo just said while he saw and heard, the screaming of millions of souls. souls are a form of consciousness. "" @Grand Ninja said:
In no way shape or form does that mean he has the collective of millions of consciousnesses I think its you that has no clue what hes talking about "" @Samurai X said:
" @Grand Ninja said:he absorbed millions of people. if you don't anything about it, why be in this thread? "" @Hellos said:When was this once ever stated? Oh thats right, never Cell isnt the collective of millions of consiousness either, seriously can you people cut the crap "how? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness. "" Cell gets mind wiped. "
"
Cell was never attacked with mental attack so we cannot be sure what would happen. I think they probably could mind rape him if they had a time, but it wouldn't be as easy as you make it sound.
Goku after his training with King Kai traveled for 2 days from one end of Snake way to the other. Snake way was
long which means, Goku at PL 5000 can fly around speed mach 17.
It was stated that snake way is 1 000 000km long here:
And it was confirmed when it took him 6 months to get to King Kai. If you do a calculations you would see it was around 1 000 000km, or even longer.
KK increases your speed, most likely doubles it, and Goku was able to perform KKx20.
Goku KKx20 is much slower then SSJ goku, who is much slower then Full powered SSJ goku from cell games, who is slower then Cell.
" @Baldy said:Most of this post is complete speculation, even the guy telling goku the length obviously doesn't know as he has to base his guess on some vague legend.When Cell first time appeared they said they are sensing Frieza, goku, Vegeta, Cold ect. inside him, and that was before he absorbed millions of peoples. Cell can split him self in 4 just like Tien which should make it more complicated for them to mind rape him. he can make Cell kids, so even if they mind rape him Cell kids would kill them." @Mortein said:
Why would it be risky? He has never shown resistance to it. Where does it show him being hundreds of times the speed of sound? "" @Baldy said:
mind reaping is always a risk, specially when you are mind reaping someone like Cell. Personally, I think it is more likely they could mind rape him, but they wouldn't have time to react. Regardless if he is FTL or just hundreds of times faster then sound, they wont be able to do anything before he kills them. Some of them would survive but he could easily BFR them with his telekinetic powers." @Grand Ninja said:
Speculation you have no idea what effect this would have on mind rape, if any. He doesn't have any feats that suggest that he is somehow immune to it. "" @Samurai X said:
piccolo just said while he saw and heard, the screaming of millions of souls. souls are a form of consciousness. "" @Grand Ninja said:
In no way shape or form does that mean he has the collective of millions of consciousnesses I think its you that has no clue what hes talking about "" @Samurai X said:
" @Grand Ninja said:he absorbed millions of people. if you don't anything about it, why be in this thread? "" @Hellos said:When was this once ever stated? Oh thats right, never Cell isnt the collective of millions of consiousness either, seriously can you people cut the crap "how? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness. "" Cell gets mind wiped. "
"
Cell was never attacked with mental attack so we cannot be sure what would happen. I think they probably could mind rape him if they had a time, but it wouldn't be as easy as you make it sound.
Goku after his training with King Kai traveled for 2 days from one end of Snake way to the other. Snake way was
long which means, Goku at PL 5000 can fly around speed mach 17.
It was stated that snake way is 1 000 000km long here:
And it was confirmed when it took him 6 months to get to King Kai. If you do a calculations you would see it was around 1 000 000km, or even longer.
"
KK increases your speed, most likely doubles it, and Goku was able to perform KKx20.
Goku KKx20 is much slower then SSJ goku, who is much slower then Full powered SSJ goku from cell games, who is slower then Cell.
Cell Jrs are weak, even Gohan owns them. I don't see what splitting into four has to do with mental resistance? What does absorbing people have to do with mental resistance?
" @Mortein said:It took goku 6 moths to get to the other end of snake way. How fast do you think Goku from the end of DB is?" @Baldy said:Most of this post is complete speculation, even the guy telling goku the length obviously doesn't know as he has to base his guess on some vague legend. Cell Jrs are weak, even Gohan owns them. I don't see what splitting into four has to do with mental resistance? What does absorbing people have to do with mental resistance? "When Cell first time appeared they said they are sensing Frieza, goku, Vegeta, Cold ect. inside him, and that was before he absorbed millions of peoples. Cell can split him self in 4 just like Tien which should make it more complicated for them to mind rape him. he can make Cell kids, so even if they mind rape him Cell kids would kill them." @Mortein said:
Why would it be risky? He has never shown resistance to it. Where does it show him being hundreds of times the speed of sound? "" @Baldy said:
mind reaping is always a risk, specially when you are mind reaping someone like Cell. Personally, I think it is more likely they could mind rape him, but they wouldn't have time to react. Regardless if he is FTL or just hundreds of times faster then sound, they wont be able to do anything before he kills them. Some of them would survive but he could easily BFR them with his telekinetic powers." @Grand Ninja said:
Speculation you have no idea what effect this would have on mind rape, if any. He doesn't have any feats that suggest that he is somehow immune to it. "" @Samurai X said:
piccolo just said while he saw and heard, the screaming of millions of souls. souls are a form of consciousness. "" @Grand Ninja said:
In no way shape or form does that mean he has the collective of millions of consciousnesses I think its you that has no clue what hes talking about "" @Samurai X said:
" @Grand Ninja said:he absorbed millions of people. if you don't anything about it, why be in this thread? "" @Hellos said:When was this once ever stated? Oh thats right, never Cell isnt the collective of millions of consiousness either, seriously can you people cut the crap "how? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness. "" Cell gets mind wiped. "
"
Cell was never attacked with mental attack so we cannot be sure what would happen. I think they probably could mind rape him if they had a time, but it wouldn't be as easy as you make it sound.
Goku after his training with King Kai traveled for 2 days from one end of Snake way to the other. Snake way was
long which means, Goku at PL 5000 can fly around speed mach 17.
It was stated that snake way is 1 000 000km long here:
And it was confirmed when it took him 6 months to get to King Kai. If you do a calculations you would see it was around 1 000 000km, or even longer.
"
KK increases your speed, most likely doubles it, and Goku was able to perform KKx20.
Goku KKx20 is much slower then SSJ goku, who is much slower then Full powered SSJ goku from cell games, who is slower then Cell.
Almost nothing about DBZ is certain. Do I know how fast Cell is? NO I dont, but this is the best possible way to determine that, and it is the the closest to truth we can get.
" @Baldy said:So what you're saying then is that he doesn't move hundreds of times the speed of sound. Right, gotcha." @Mortein said:It took goku 6 moths to get to the other end of snake way. How fast do you think Goku from the end of DB is? Almost nothing about DBZ is certain. Do I know how fast Cell is? NO I dont, but this is the best possible way to determine that, and it is the the closest to truth we can get. "" @Baldy said:Most of this post is complete speculation, even the guy telling goku the length obviously doesn't know as he has to base his guess on some vague legend. Cell Jrs are weak, even Gohan owns them. I don't see what splitting into four has to do with mental resistance? What does absorbing people have to do with mental resistance? "When Cell first time appeared they said they are sensing Frieza, goku, Vegeta, Cold ect. inside him, and that was before he absorbed millions of peoples. Cell can split him self in 4 just like Tien which should make it more complicated for them to mind rape him. he can make Cell kids, so even if they mind rape him Cell kids would kill them." @Mortein said:
Why would it be risky? He has never shown resistance to it. Where does it show him being hundreds of times the speed of sound? "" @Baldy said:
mind reaping is always a risk, specially when you are mind reaping someone like Cell. Personally, I think it is more likely they could mind rape him, but they wouldn't have time to react. Regardless if he is FTL or just hundreds of times faster then sound, they wont be able to do anything before he kills them. Some of them would survive but he could easily BFR them with his telekinetic powers." @Grand Ninja said:
Speculation you have no idea what effect this would have on mind rape, if any. He doesn't have any feats that suggest that he is somehow immune to it. "" @Samurai X said:
piccolo just said while he saw and heard, the screaming of millions of souls. souls are a form of consciousness. "" @Grand Ninja said:
In no way shape or form does that mean he has the collective of millions of consciousnesses I think its you that has no clue what hes talking about "" @Samurai X said:
" @Grand Ninja said:he absorbed millions of people. if you don't anything about it, why be in this thread? "" @Hellos said:When was this once ever stated? Oh thats right, never Cell isnt the collective of millions of consiousness either, seriously can you people cut the crap "how? his consciousness are programed so the only one who can really mind wipe him is magneto. though the bio-organic side of him may seem invulrable to any sort of mind attack, it would still be futile bc cell is a collective of millions of other consciousness. "" Cell gets mind wiped. "
"
Cell was never attacked with mental attack so we cannot be sure what would happen. I think they probably could mind rape him if they had a time, but it wouldn't be as easy as you make it sound.
Goku after his training with King Kai traveled for 2 days from one end of Snake way to the other. Snake way was
long which means, Goku at PL 5000 can fly around speed mach 17.
It was stated that snake way is 1 000 000km long here:
And it was confirmed when it took him 6 months to get to King Kai. If you do a calculations you would see it was around 1 000 000km, or even longer.
"
KK increases your speed, most likely doubles it, and Goku was able to perform KKx20.
Goku KKx20 is much slower then SSJ goku, who is much slower then Full powered SSJ goku from cell games, who is slower then Cell.
Cell loses.
I dont think he is moveing hundreds of times the speed of sound, I think he is much faster then that" @Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:So what you're saying then is that he doesn't move hundreds of times the speed of sound. Right, gotcha. Cell loses. "It took goku 6 moths to get to the other end of snake way. How fast do you think Goku from the end of DB is? Almost nothing about DBZ is certain. Do I know how fast Cell is? NO I dont, but this is the best possible way to determine that, and it is the the closest to truth we can get. "When Cell first time appeared they said they are sensing Frieza, goku, Vegeta, Cold ect. inside him, and that was before he absorbed millions of peoples. Cell can split him self in 4 just like Tien which should make it more complicated for them to mind rape him. he can make Cell kids, so even if they mind rape him Cell kids would kill them.Why would it be risky? He has never shown resistance to it. Where does it show him being hundreds of times the speed of sound? "
Cell was never attacked with mental attack so we cannot be sure what would happen. I think they probably could mind rape him if they had a time, but it wouldn't be as easy as you make it sound.
Goku after his training with King Kai traveled for 2 days from one end of Snake way to the other. Snake way was
long which means, Goku at PL 5000 can fly around speed mach 17.
It was stated that snake way is 1 000 000km long here:
And it was confirmed when it took him 6 months to get to King Kai. If you do a calculations you would see it was around 1 000 000km, or even longer.
"
KK increases your speed, most likely doubles it, and Goku was able to perform KKx20.
Goku KKx20 is much slower then SSJ goku, who is much slower then Full powered SSJ goku from cell games, who is slower then Cell.
Most of this post is complete speculation, even the guy telling goku the length obviously doesn't know as he has to base his guess on some vague legend. Cell Jrs are weak, even Gohan owns them. I don't see what splitting into four has to do with mental resistance? What does absorbing people have to do with mental resistance? "
" @Baldy said:Not without feats he isn't." @Mortein said:I dont think he is moveing hundreds of times the speed of sound, I think he is much faster then that "" @Baldy said:So what you're saying then is that he doesn't move hundreds of times the speed of sound. Right, gotcha. Cell loses. "It took goku 6 moths to get to the other end of snake way. How fast do you think Goku from the end of DB is? Almost nothing about DBZ is certain. Do I know how fast Cell is? NO I dont, but this is the best possible way to determine that, and it is the the closest to truth we can get. "When Cell first time appeared they said they are sensing Frieza, goku, Vegeta, Cold ect. inside him, and that was before he absorbed millions of peoples. Cell can split him self in 4 just like Tien which should make it more complicated for them to mind rape him. he can make Cell kids, so even if they mind rape him Cell kids would kill them.Why would it be risky? He has never shown resistance to it. Where does it show him being hundreds of times the speed of sound? "
Cell was never attacked with mental attack so we cannot be sure what would happen. I think they probably could mind rape him if they had a time, but it wouldn't be as easy as you make it sound.
Goku after his training with King Kai traveled for 2 days from one end of Snake way to the other. Snake way was
long which means, Goku at PL 5000 can fly around speed mach 17.
It was stated that snake way is 1 000 000km long here:
And it was confirmed when it took him 6 months to get to King Kai. If you do a calculations you would see it was around 1 000 000km, or even longer.
"
KK increases your speed, most likely doubles it, and Goku was able to perform KKx20.
Goku KKx20 is much slower then SSJ goku, who is much slower then Full powered SSJ goku from cell games, who is slower then Cell.
Most of this post is complete speculation, even the guy telling goku the length obviously doesn't know as he has to base his guess on some vague legend. Cell Jrs are weak, even Gohan owns them. I don't see what splitting into four has to do with mental resistance? What does absorbing people have to do with mental resistance? "
How would Cell get mindraped. He has hundreds of souls inside him, making his mind more warped than Hulk. Also if every single Cell inside him is alive and exists as if it was a seperate being, it would be dang hard. Even when he lost android 18 and had 1 cell that cell was able to think for itself and remember how it once was, it was also able to fuse with goku, and learn his new moves, then it regenerated.
When cell was imperfect he absorbed many lives, now if mystique can withstand Xavier's mindcontrol with pure willpower, to say Cell can't is disgraceful. Cell has Kami and picollo's genes, and guess what Kami who was able to possess an individual completely did noteven attempt to do so on Cell, most likely because he did not think that it would work, (or you know PIS).
But he has lots of feats that shows us he is much faster then full powered saiyans" @Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:Not without feats he isn't. "" @Mortein said:I dont think he is moveing hundreds of times the speed of sound, I think he is much faster then that "" @Baldy said:So what you're saying then is that he doesn't move hundreds of times the speed of sound. Right, gotcha. Cell loses. "It took goku 6 moths to get to the other end of snake way. How fast do you think Goku from the end of DB is? Almost nothing about DBZ is certain. Do I know how fast Cell is? NO I dont, but this is the best possible way to determine that, and it is the the closest to truth we can get. "When Cell first time appeared they said they are sensing Frieza, goku, Vegeta, Cold ect. inside him, and that was before he absorbed millions of peoples. Cell can split him self in 4 just like Tien which should make it more complicated for them to mind rape him. he can make Cell kids, so even if they mind rape him Cell kids would kill them.Why would it be risky? He has never shown resistance to it. Where does it show him being hundreds of times the speed of sound? "
Cell was never attacked with mental attack so we cannot be sure what would happen. I think they probably could mind rape him if they had a time, but it wouldn't be as easy as you make it sound.
Goku after his training with King Kai traveled for 2 days from one end of Snake way to the other. Snake way was
long which means, Goku at PL 5000 can fly around speed mach 17.
It was stated that snake way is 1 000 000km long here:
And it was confirmed when it took him 6 months to get to King Kai. If you do a calculations you would see it was around 1 000 000km, or even longer.
"
KK increases your speed, most likely doubles it, and Goku was able to perform KKx20.
Goku KKx20 is much slower then SSJ goku, who is much slower then Full powered SSJ goku from cell games, who is slower then Cell.
Most of this post is complete speculation, even the guy telling goku the length obviously doesn't know as he has to base his guess on some vague legend. Cell Jrs are weak, even
Gohan owns them. I don't see what splitting into four has to do with mental resistance? What does absorbing people have to do with mental resistance? "
"@Baldy said:But he has lots of feats that shows us he is much faster then full powered saiyans "" @Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:Not without feats he isn't. "" @Mortein said:I dont think he is moveing hundreds of times the speed of sound, I think he is much faster then that "" @Baldy said:So what you're saying then is that he doesn't move hundreds of times the speed of sound. Right, gotcha. Cell loses. "It took goku 6 moths to get to the other end of snake way. How fast do you think Goku from the end of DB is? Almost nothing about DBZ is certain. Do I know how fast Cell is? NO I dont, but this is the best possible way to determine that, and it is the the closest to truth we can get. "When Cell first time appeared they said they are sensing Frieza, goku, Vegeta, Cold ect. inside him, and that was before he absorbed millions of peoples. Cell can split him self in 4 just like Tien which should make it more complicated for them to mind rape him. he can make Cell kids, so even if they mind rape him Cell kids would kill them.Why would it be risky? He has never shown resistance to it. Where does it show him being hundreds of times the speed of sound? "
Cell was never attacked with mental attack so we cannot be sure what would happen. I think they probably could mind rape him if they had a time, but it wouldn't be as easy as you make it sound.
Goku after his training with King Kai traveled for 2 days from one end of Snake way to the other. Snake way was
long which means, Goku at PL 5000 can fly around speed mach 17.
It was stated that snake way is 1 000 000km long here:
And it was confirmed when it took him 6 months to get to King Kai. If you do a calculations you would see it was around 1 000 000km, or even longer.
"
KK increases your speed, most likely doubles it, and Goku was able to perform KKx20.
Goku KKx20 is much slower then SSJ goku, who is much slower then Full powered SSJ goku from cell games, who is slower then Cell.
Most of this post is complete speculation, even the guy telling goku the length obviously doesn't know as he has to base his guess on some vague legend. Cell Jrs are weak, even
Gohan owns them. I don't see what splitting into four has to do with mental resistance? What does absorbing people have to do with mental resistance? "
They know that what you are saying i true they are just hoping that they can convince you without presenting any facts. Notice that it is us who on every thread have to show scans just to stay in the thread, when they don't do jack.
" @Mortein said:That's because you people keep making claims with no evidence. All of this is speculation and thus completely invalid."@Baldy said:They know that what you are saying i true they are just hoping that they can convince you without presenting any facts. Notice that it is us who on every thread have to show scans just to stay in the thread, when they don't do jack. "But he has lots of feats that shows us he is much faster then full powered saiyans "" @Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:Not without feats he isn't. "" @Mortein said:I dont think he is moveing hundreds of times the speed of sound, I think he is much faster then that "" @Baldy said:So what you're saying then is that he doesn't move hundreds of times the speed of sound. Right, gotcha. Cell loses. "It took goku 6 moths to get to the other end of snake way. How fast do you think Goku from the end of DB is? Almost nothing about DBZ is certain. Do I know how fast Cell is? NO I dont, but this is the best possible way to determine that, and it is the the closest to truth we can get. "When Cell first time appeared they said they are sensing Frieza, goku, Vegeta, Cold ect. inside him, and that was before he absorbed millions of peoples. Cell can split him self in 4 just like Tien which should make it more complicated for them to mind rape him. he can make Cell kids, so even if they mind rape him Cell kids would kill them.Why would it be risky? He has never shown resistance to it. Where does it show him being hundreds of times the speed of sound? "
Cell was never attacked with mental attack so we cannot be sure what would happen. I think they probably could mind rape him if they had a time, but it wouldn't be as easy as you make it sound.
Goku after his training with King Kai traveled for 2 days from one end of Snake way to the other. Snake way was
long which means, Goku at PL 5000 can fly around speed mach 17.
It was stated that snake way is 1 000 000km long here:
And it was confirmed when it took him 6 months to get to King Kai. If you do a calculations you would see it was around 1 000 000km, or even longer.
"
KK increases your speed, most likely doubles it, and Goku was able to perform KKx20.
Goku KKx20 is much slower then SSJ goku, who is much slower then Full powered SSJ goku from cell games, who is slower then Cell.
Most of this post is complete speculation, even the guy telling goku the length obviously doesn't know as he has to base his guess on some vague legend. Cell Jrs are weak, even
Gohan owns them. I don't see what splitting into four has to do with mental resistance? What does absorbing people have to do with mental resistance? "
I guess you have a better way to determine approximately how fast Cell should be? Let me hear your theory and if it is better then mine I will change my opinion." @thegreat said:
That's because you people keep making claims with no evidence. All of this is speculation and thus completely invalid. ""at "
They know that what you are saying i true they are just hoping that they can convince you without presenting any facts. Notice that it is us who on every thread have to show scans just to stay in the thread, when they don't do jack. "Not without feats he isn't. "But he has lots of feats that shows us he is much faster then full powered saiyans "
cell loses badly. he would be able to beat people like storm,wolverine, and cyclops. but juggs and magneto would stomp him
" cell loses badly. he would be able to beat people like storm,wolverine, and cyclops. but juggs and magneto would stomp him "How would Mags survive Cells KI blast? He can barely survive atom bomb.
And why couldn't he BFR juggernaut with his telekinetic abilities?
" @Baldy said:It's your claim, burden of proof lies with you. By proof I don't mean random fan bias based guesses.I guess you have a better way to determine approximately how fast Cell should be? Let me hear your theory and if it is better then mine I will change my opinion. "" @thegreat said:
That's because you people keep making claims with no evidence. All of this is speculation and thus completely invalid. ""at "
They know that what you are saying i true they are just hoping that they can convince you without presenting any facts. Notice that it is us who on every thread have to show scans just to stay in the thread, when they don't do jack. "Not without feats he isn't. "But he has lots of feats that shows us he is much faster then full powered saiyans "
" @Mortein said:I am trying to determine how fast Cell is in oder to determine outcome of this battle, and since we do not know how fast Cell is we have to make theories. I have told you mine theory about Cells speed, but yet have to hear yours." @Baldy said:It's your claim, burden of proof lies with you. By proof I don't mean random fan bias based guesses. "I guess you have a better way to determine approximately how fast Cell should be? Let me hear your theory and if it is better then mine I will change my opinion. "" @thegreat said:
That's because you people keep making claims with no evidence. All of this is speculation and thus completely invalid. ""at "
They know that what you are saying i true they are just hoping that they can convince you without presenting any facts. Notice that it is us who on every thread have to show scans just to stay in the thread, when they don't do jack. "Not without feats he isn't. "But he has lots of feats that shows us he is much faster then full powered saiyans "
" @Baldy said:All I have to go on are visuals from the anime and it looks to me that most of the time he isn't even moving at super speed." @Mortein said:I am trying to determine how fast Cell is in oder to determine outcome of this battle, and since we do not know how fast Cell is we have to make theories. I have told you mine theory about Cells speed, but yet have to hear yours. "" @Baldy said:It's your claim, burden of proof lies with you. By proof I don't mean random fan bias based guesses. "I guess you have a better way to determine approximately how fast Cell should be? Let me hear your theory and if it is better then mine I will change my opinion. "" @thegreat said:
That's because you people keep making claims with no evidence. All of this is speculation and thus completely invalid. ""at "
They know that what you are saying i true they are just hoping that they can convince you without presenting any facts. Notice that it is us who on every thread have to show scans just to stay in the thread, when they don't do jack. "Not without feats he isn't. "But he has lots of feats that shows us he is much faster then full powered saiyans "
We are talking about comic here. Anime is to confusing an inconsistent for me." @Mortein said:
" @Baldy said:All I have to go on are visuals from the anime and it looks to me that most of the time he isn't even moving at super speed. "" @Mortein said:I am trying to determine how fast Cell is in oder to determine outcome of this battle, and since we do not know how fast Cell is we have to make theories. I have told you mine theory about Cells speed, but yet have to hear yours. "" @Baldy said:It's your claim, burden of proof lies with you. By proof I don't mean random fan bias based guesses. "I guess you have a better way to determine approximately how fast Cell should be? Let me hear your theory and if it is better then mine I will change my opinion. "" @thegreat said:
That's because you people keep making claims with no evidence. All of this is speculation and thus completely invalid. ""at "
They know that what you are saying i true they are just hoping that they can convince you without presenting any facts. Notice that it is us who on every thread have to show scans just to stay in the thread, when they don't do jack. "Not without feats he isn't. "But he has lots of feats that shows us he is much faster then full powered saiyans "
" @Baldy said:Fine. Then give some proof." @Mortein said:We are talking about comic here. "" @Baldy said:All I have to go on are visuals from the anime and it looks to me that most of the time he isn't even moving at super speed. "" @Mortein said:I am trying to determine how fast Cell is in oder to determine outcome of this battle, and since we do not know how fast Cell is we have to make theories. I have told you mine theory about Cells speed, but yet have to hear yours. "" @Baldy said:It's your claim, burden of proof lies with you. By proof I don't mean random fan bias based guesses. "I guess you have a better way to determine approximately how fast Cell should be? Let me hear your theory and if it is better then mine I will change my opinion. "" @thegreat said:
That's because you people keep making claims with no evidence. All of this is speculation and thus completely invalid. ""at "
They know that what you are saying i true they are just hoping that they can convince you without presenting any facts. Notice that it is us who on every thread have to show scans just to stay in the thread, when they don't do jack. "Not without feats he isn't. "But he has lots of feats that shows us he is much faster then full powered saiyans "
" @Mortein said:I showed you he was much faster then full powered super saiyans.All I have to go on are visuals from the anime and it looks to me that most of the time he isn't even moving at super speed. "We are talking about comic here. "Fine. Then give some proof. "
only way cell wins is with speed,spirit bomb(which takes a million years to charge up), and absorbing people.
Wolverine is good with stealth, we saw Cell was susceptible to surprise attacks when that Android grabbed him from behind. What happens when Wolverine gets the first hit with a little bit of adamantium. Then if he goes berserk he'll outslash Cell's regeneration capabilities until Cell runs out of energy and dies.
" @Baldy said:No you showed some guy saying "Wha", not to mention you havn't proven that saiyans are super sonic." @Mortein said:I showed you he was much faster then full powered super saiyans. "All I have to go on are visuals from the anime and it looks to me that most of the time he isn't even moving at super speed. "We are talking about comic here. "Fine. Then give some proof. "
" Wolverine is good with stealth, we saw Cell was susceptible to surprise attacks when that Android grabbed him from behind. What happens when Wolverine gets the first hit with a little bit of adamantium. Then if he goes berserk he'll outslash Cell's regeneration capabilities until Cell runs out of energy and dies. "Android isn't alive, which is why Cell couldn't sense him, and you cant compare the speed of 16 with wolverines speed
" @Klandicar said:Why can't you? Making up more super speed for characters that never showed any?" Wolverine is good with stealth, we saw Cell was susceptible to surprise attacks when that Android grabbed him from behind. What happens when Wolverine gets the first hit with a little bit of adamantium. Then if he goes berserk he'll outslash Cell's regeneration capabilities until Cell runs out of energy and dies. "Android isn't alive, which is why Cell couldn't sense him, and you cant compare the speed of 16 with wolverines speed "
What are you talking about? Cell doesn't have a super speed at all??" @Mortein said:
Why can't you? Making up more super speed for characters that never showed any? "" @Klandicar said:
Android isn't alive, which is why Cell couldn't sense him, and you cant compare the speed of 16 with wolverines speed "" Wolverine is good with stealth, we saw Cell was susceptible to surprise attacks when that Android grabbed him from behind. What happens when Wolverine gets the first hit with a little bit of adamantium. Then if he goes berserk he'll outslash Cell's regeneration capabilities until Cell runs out of energy and dies. "
You have DBZ comics on internet, look at his fights and you'll see he is faster or at least as fast as full powered super saiyan.
" @Baldy said:" @Mortein said:I showed you he was much faster then full powered super saiyans. "All I have to go on are visuals from the anime and it looks to me that most of the time he isn't even moving at super speed. "We are talking about comic here. "Fine. Then give some proof. "
All you need to do is show him the scan of Krillin and master roshi.
Or Raditz dodging a ki blast fired at him at the last moment. The same blast which destroyed the moon in very little time, it reached the moon in like 1 second, and that is roughly light speed. Raditz dodged the beam in the last moment where there should have been no time. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS3ent7N3wg&feature=related
Just because you are not watching a blank screen does not mean that they are not moving fast.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uc7vHETRns&feature=related ssj gotenks without trying goes around earth several times in seconds, which I admit is not very impressive for dbz standards, but the manga does not demonstrate a time, in fact gotenks is just taking a stroll but enough of that.
In dbz they outrun ki blasts all the time, which should be proof of how fast they really are.
Oh yeah another thing in the anime it is sometimes not best to go by our time, because 5 seconds was the equivalent to 1 second in their time when goku was training with king kai: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW2Hq-uKL7M&feature=related when goku catches gregory with a hammer.
Also I have already told him about how king kai said that freiza and goku where the fastest he had ever come across he found it hard for them to follow, he could not keep up with them yet he was able to keep up with a ship moving over 300 times the speed of light.
They don't like us using feats and then using simple calculations to translate that into figures. Cell straight up in the last moment dodged Vegeta's final flash which was way ftl
" @Baldy said:Prove that super saiyans have super speed.What are you talking about? Cell doesn't have a super speed at all?? You have DBZ comics on internet, look at his fights and youll see he is faster or as fast as full powered super saiyan. "" @Mortein said:
" @Klandicar said:Why can't you? Making up more super speed for characters that never showed any? "" Wolverine is good with stealth, we saw Cell was susceptible to surprise attacks when that Android grabbed him from behind. What happens when Wolverine gets the first hit with a little bit of adamantium. Then if he goes berserk he'll outslash Cell's regeneration capabilities until Cell runs out of energy and dies. "Android isn't alive, which is why Cell couldn't sense him, and you cant compare the speed of 16 with wolverines speed "
" @Mortein said:lol, I know you are not serious." @Baldy said:Prove that super saiyans have super speed. "What are you talking about? Cell doesn't have a super speed at all?? You have DBZ comics on internet, look at his fights and youll see he is faster or as fast as full powered super saiyan. "" @Mortein said:
" @Klandicar said:Why can't you? Making up more super speed for characters that never showed any? "" Wolverine is good with stealth, we saw Cell was susceptible to surprise attacks when that Android grabbed him from behind. What happens when Wolverine gets the first hit with a little bit of adamantium. Then if he goes berserk he'll outslash Cell's regeneration capabilities until Cell runs out of energy and dies. "Android isn't alive, which is why Cell couldn't sense him, and you cant compare the speed of 16 with wolverines speed "
" @Baldy said:" @Mortein said:lol, I know you are not serious. "" @Baldy said:Prove that super saiyans have super speed. "What are you talking about? Cell doesn't have a super speed at all?? You have DBZ comics on internet, look at his fights and youll see he is faster or as fast as full powered super saiyan. "" @Mortein said:
" @Klandicar said:Why can't you? Making up more super speed for characters that never showed any? "" Wolverine is good with stealth, we saw Cell was susceptible to surprise attacks when that Android grabbed him from behind. What happens when Wolverine gets the first hit with a little bit of adamantium. Then if he goes berserk he'll outslash Cell's regeneration capabilities until Cell runs out of energy and dies. "Android isn't alive, which is why Cell couldn't sense him, and you cant compare the speed of 16 with wolverines speed "
he is not at all, it is hysterical, save energy and let him be, I actually thought that at one point he was open-minded ah well.
" @Just Because Im Obsessive said:hes an android...you find an instance of an android being mindjobed and i'll show you PIS. Again not that it matters he'd kill the them before they get a chance to think" Too many omega mutants with no speed Cell will kill 90% of the team before they knew the fight started Cell is a freaking android so no mindjobs for him either juggs just quits after he cant hit cell just like ultra trunks vs cell...or he gets absorbed. cell wins "He's biological and has never been shown to be immune to mind rape. "
@Baldy said:
" @Just Because Im Obsessive said:" Too many omega mutants with no speed Cell will kill 90% of the team before they knew the fight started Cell is a freaking android so no mindjobs for him either juggs just quits after he cant hit cell just like ultra trunks vs cell...or he gets absorbed. cell wins "I think this whole battle comes down to FTL. If you believe he is FTL then I guess he wins, otherwise he can't. I personally don't think he has FTL movement. "
i believe that cell is ftl
not that he has to be..he would still be faster than any of the x men by using early dbz speeds alone.
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