Perfect Cell Max Runs my DBS Gauntlet

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#1  Edited By Grand_Master1
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Rules

  • Cell gets a Brain and his Perfect Form.
  • Cell gets all of Current Goku and Vegeta Abilities
  • Full rest after each Round.
  • Full Intel.
  • Cell Games Arena.
  • Planet Cannot be Destroyed.

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R8) Current Vegito

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#2  Edited By ahsokacrapsonft

beerus is fodder why is he last, cell max stops at beast gohan again, he got oneshotted by him, black freeza and beast gohan both oneshot beerus too

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@ahsokacrapsonft: i think this is “perfect” cell max. Does he even exist in the dbs series?

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Too hard to use fanfic/hypothetical characters tbh.. but not even perfect cell cleared the Z fighters without a senzu.

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A Perfect Cell Max is completely theoretical. There is no way to accurately tell how powerful he would be beside the statement of Broly being unable to defeat him, which even then is referring to current Broly training with Goku and Vegeta, meaning he is also unquantifiable beside being stronger than his first appearence.

With that being said, he would lose to Frieza, Moro and current Vegito. Though he probably beats anyone else.

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beerus is fodder why is he last, cell max stops at beast gohan again, he got oneshotted by him, black freeza and beast gohan both oneshot beerus too

Because he is massively overrated due to a so called "narrative" and twisted interpretation of a number of vague statements. The reality is that his limits were clearly shown in the exhibition match and he is outclassed by a good number of characters at this point.

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We already Got perfect Cell Max, the one in the movie was it

He got one shot by Gohan

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We have nothing to go off of other than being >= Broly

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@ahsokacrapsonft said:

beerus is fodder why is he last, cell max stops at beast gohan again, he got oneshotted by him, black freeza and beast gohan both oneshot beerus too

Because he is massively overrated due to a so called "narrative" and twisted interpretation of a number of vague statements. The reality is that his limits were clearly shown in the exhibition match and he is outclassed by a good number of characters at this point.

Except him and no one else were going all out at that point. This is made incredibly obvious. Beerus was also going toe to toe with multiple GoDs. Jiren being stronger than a single GoD (who likely isn't being measured at full capacity) means absolutely nothing. Beerus is only surpassed by the Angels until proven otherwise. Your fan fiction wank is more annoying than Beerus continually being made stronger by the writers.

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The fact that people still put Beerus last makes the ordering list cringe.

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@noobsnowman: Blame the Autor for that

He retcons him each time a new Villain Shows up

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#12  Edited By CrimsonSlayer85

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Except him and no one else were going all out at that point. This is made incredibly obvious.

You should re-read the chapter then. Because the Grand Minister specifically stated that each Destroyer was required to go all out, otherwise they would have been erased from existence. So all of them were giving it their all and fighting at full power. It's, as a wise person already said, "incredibly obvious".

Beerus was also going toe to toe with multiple GoDs.

Yes, by relying on his imperfect Ultra Instinct. But that only took him so far, as he eventually got hit. After he stopped using it, he struggled massively against the other Destroyers and ended up being greatly wounded and exhausted just like the rest (excluding Belmod), meaning that all the other Destroyers are relative to him.

It is also curious that you mentioned this particular showing, as UI Omen Goku has greater mastery of UI than Beerus by his own admission, meaning he can replicate his showing of handling multiple Destroyers at once, yet was unable to land a single hit on a serious Jiren. Should be quite telling.

Jiren being stronger than a single GoD (who likely isn't being measured at full capacity) means absolutely nothing.

It is indeed meaningful instead, as all Destroyers are relative to each other due to all of them ending up being wounded and tired after the exhibition match ended. Furthermore, the God that Jiren is superior to is Belmod, who can be easily argued to be the strongest Destroyer, since he was the only one that emerged unscathed from the whole match, the one that trapped and damaged all of the Destroyers at once, and the one that no-sold Liquiir's energy barrage.

And quit the denial, "Isn't being measured at full capacity" lol. Jiren is explictily stated by Toppo to be superior to Belmod.

Jiren also has another official statement of his power surpassing ALL the gods of destruction, which unfortunately includes Beerus.

Beerus is only surpassed by the Angels until proven otherwise.

In case you haven't noticed, the story already proved that Goku, Frieza, Moro and Jiren have already surpassed Beerus.

Beerus continually being made stronger by the writers.

fan fiction wank

Well, your second statement is an accurate description of the first one.

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#13  Edited By noobsnowman

@paxa: The last time Toriyama said anything about Beerus was back in 2016, when he had no plans for Goku and Vegeta to surpass Beerus at that moment. That was during the development of the Goku Black Arc. At best you can argue that Beerus is factually superior to MSSBs.... which isn't really arguable to begin with.

You're probably referring to Toyotoro, which `1. He isn't the author, he is the visual artist, and 2. His interview has already been debunked for ages. Uchida, the person who brought up Beerus in that interview, was stated to have the credibility of Yamcha in story meetings.

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He beats everyone except for round 7

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#15  Edited By enviid

In case you haven't noticed, the story already proved that Goku, Frieza, Moro and Jiren have already surpassed Beerus.

@noobsnowman said:

The fact that people still put Beerus last makes the ordering list cringe.

It is humiliating. You continue with this completely asinine rhetoric when all evidence in the story states otherwise. As far as discourse regarding this topic goes, you will forever be known as invincibly ignorant.

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#16  Edited By comicvinerguy

Perfect cell max? Wow. The ugly looking second form of cell max was stated to be able to mop broly if his mind program is complete. Broly from toriyama's PoV is the pinnacle of saiyan strength in that movie. You gave him his hypothetical perfect form with all of goku and vegeta abilities. Yeah, he clears.

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Perfect Cell Max does not exist.

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@randomidk: @comicvinerguy: there is no such thing as semi perfect Cell Max

The one we got in the movie was the perfect version of him

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@randomidk: @bills:

The OP said "Perfect cell max".The image that he posted just makes it more clear. The ugly dumb cell that we seen in the movie is basically just in his Second form. With A mind control program complete he would beat broly but still retain that second form appearance.

The op asked if he could hypothetically transform into his perfect form like how the OG cell did it after absorbing 18.

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This is impossible to answer, seeing as Cell Max doesn’t have a Perfect form

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@redhood_jaytodd: Well, yeah. We don't know how strong a hypothetical perfect cell max would be. All we know is that cell max with a mind would mop broly. Him being able to transform to his hypothetical perfect form is debatable.

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@comicvinerguy: did the dub or sub change anything? Because Dr Hedo outright said that Cell Max is finished Body and strength wise

While only lacking the program to control his brine

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#24  Edited By comicvinerguy

@bills: No shit -_-

The OP is asking about how strong a hypothetical cell max that IF he has access into the perfect form and how would he fair against those characters. Nothing hard to comprehend. It's a hypothetical question.

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Stops at Vegito

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@bills: No shit -_-

The OP is asking about how strong a hypothetical cell max that IF he has access into the perfect form and how would he fair against those characters. Nothing hard to comprehend. It's a hypothetical question.

those guys you were responding to have the IQ rate of a Goat. jesus christ, they must either be 12s (hopefully) or incredibly dumb.

seeing as cell max was stated to be > broly if he had the mind program and knew to use his powers properly, i'd say that that he either high diffs final beast gohan or gets high diffed by him seeing as he got stomped by him.

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Stops at Gohan Beast

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I would say stops at Moro but there’s no protection for Moro from his time limit with Ultra Instinct. Plus Cell Max is being given all the abilities of Goku and Vegeta here so he could used Forced Spirit Fission to his advantage nicely.

I guess I’ll go with stops at Gas? Team ups of Goku and Vegeta, and Goku and Granolah, all continuously failed to defeat or kill him. Maybe he’ll have this

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Wouldn’t he just lose to gohan again

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Stops at Gohan

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I see Gohan stopping Cell as usual, Frieza would whoop his ass.

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#32  Edited By Godlike_Warrior

Hard one no way to know for sure but i say he stop at current Vegito for sure since Tori hyped him so much if he had a brain that is.

No shot at Beerus

Freiza is Debatable

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#33  Edited By DerTilt
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I see Gohan stopping Cell as usual, Frieza would whoop his ass.

100% NOT.Gohan Blanco needed Piccolos help in order to defeat a non-full power Cell MAX.

Frieza can go either way but Full Power Cell MAX "was" a Movie villain hence he should get the benefit of the doubt

Vegito wins no doubt

And Beerus wins even faster

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It’s hard to say since Cell Max was never fully completed as intended.

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Fake character, terrible ordering.

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