Pennywise vs. Voldemort

@morleericks: lol what in the bump

Tim Curry gets stomped. If it's book feats for both, then Voldemort would bow and worship Pennywise. He'd be to Pennywise what Flagg is to Crimson King.

@zetsumoto: Nah wrong Tim Curry solos Voldemort easily because it's more powerful than him and the Deadlights will defeat Voldemort

@ultimate-man: What has Tim Curry Pennywise shown to mark him as more powerful than voldemort?

Avada Kedavra destroys the soul.

His true form the Deadlights it usually kills anyone who see it instantly or it destroys their minds he's also a multiverse level eldritch abomination Voldemort has no chance of winning.

Tim Curry

Pennywise

voldermort. avada kedavra

If its book version the eldritch abomination gets a tiny snack

If its Movie version.....well if we include the new IT movie it may change my mind but for now its the bald guy with the funny nose

@zuriel-el: @gentlemantophat: Pennywise can still solo him and the Deadlight form can destroy him easily

Didn't Pennywise suffocated the Turtle with two Galaxies? Where did I read that? Mmm. I don't remember. Correct me, if I'm wrong.

Pennywise ftw

@cocoussybreaker: Yea, Pennywise didn't do that at all. Maturin choked on its own.

@thelocust619 said:

@cocoussybreaker: Yea, Pennywise didn't do that at all. Maturin choked on its own.

So he lied or someone lied to me?

IT.

@cocoussybreaker: Yea, it was natural and there's no way anyone could think It did it. It can't do anything significant to a planet, much less a galaxy. Maturin naturally creates them by puking. It also says Maturin choked because hes stupid, and never even claims any kind of responsibility.

Sounds like u got trolled.

Pennywise

@thelocust619: i'm not upset or angry so I don't know how is that a troll move. Secondly, isn't Pennywise the mortal foe of the turtle, and his real form lives inside a universe of its own? Thirdly, how can the turtle be dead if it talked to the losers club.

@cocoussybreaker: K

No, that's a bit exagerated. In the story, It philosophically opposes Maturin (creatiin/destruction, love/hate, gathering/solitude), and It hates the Turtle, but otherwise we don't know much about their relationship other than they're not really on speaking terms. It isn't strong enough to physically challenge Maturin in any way, if that's what you're getting at.

It lives outside the universe in the Outside, Todash, and has invaded Maturin's universe with a physical body used to eat kids n stuff. The Deadlights are a dimension within the Real It, not a universe, and it uses what amounts to its soul to pull it's victims there. Its more a storehouse for its victims. Think part 4 Freddy Krueger for a rough idea.

Maturin died between the eras. It talked to them as kids, not adults. Though it is alive in TDT for some reason.

Bump and Pennywise cause the dude who looks like a reject vampire from a B-list movie is scared of a kid with a lightning bolt on his head

Watch the movie before judging it.

Book Pennywise absolutely murders him and the entire Harry Potter universe.

Pennywise feeds off of fear and was defeated by a group of kids because they didn't fear him and banded together. So if Voldemort has full knowledge he could definitely win. Without knowledge Pennywise might get him. Though I don't thinking Pennywise would try and pick a fight with Voldemort. He goes for children because they are easy targets, aka adults are harder, and a powerful wizard would be much harder.

Book Pennywise stomps, Voldemort could beat maybe beat movie Pennywise. It depends though, IT was powerful when he wasn't dealing with the power of friendship/bravery. Voldemort is certainly a coward at heart but he has a fighter's mindset, so that could count as courage for the affects of hurting Pennywise

Without the power of companionship Current pennywise trolls him

@alextheboss: The kids in the book needed help from a being who created the universe by accident. It can shape shift to any form he wants, Is as fast as an express train, can control the minds of an entire town, and is also outside of time and space. His true from cannot be conceived by any mortal mind. He also created a raging pocket hurricane and blew up stores and sewers out of anger. Pretty sure it is>Voldemort.

@lfrankthetank27:

The kids in the book needed help from a being who created the universe by accident.

In what way did he help them?

It can shape shift to any form he wants,

Helpful, but many wizards can shapeshift, and none could touch Voldemort.

Is as fast as an express train,

Voldemort can fly at high speeds and teleport

can control the minds of an entire town,

I'm pretty sure he just influenced them. If he had the power to make the whole town kill themselves at once that would be out of Voldemort's league, but I'm pretty sure all he did was make them not think about the people going missing and things like that.

and is also outside of time and space. His true from cannot be conceived by any mortal mind.

Well Voldemort isn't a regular human or completely mortal either. Voldemort probably wouldn't have much of a chance against a fully powered Pennywise in his own dimension, but in a random encounter on Earth he has a chance to at the very least beat Pennywise back.

He also created a raging pocket hurricane and blew up stores and sewers out of anger. Pretty sure it is>Voldemort.

Voldemort and his goons do things like that all of the time.

I just saw the new movie and Pennwise wasn't too impressive. He definitely would be a threat to Voldemort, but the fight could probably go either way on the circumstances.

@alextheboss: The ritual of chud in the book was the only way to Defeat it. The ritual required the turtle beam and the turtle also explained how to Defeat it. That is a good point about the mind control. However, he would still have to make an entire town forget about a horrific death, which is still impressive. Wizards are moral, Voldemort just had the horcuxes in his favor. I don't see however, how the horcruxes would save him against the dead lights. I haven't read the books in a while but I don't remember voldy generating 80+mph winds and summoning lightning that destroyed an entire bridge out of anger. Movie pennywise like you said wasn't impressive at all.

@lfrankthetank27:

The ritual of chud in the book was the only way to Defeat it. The ritual required the turtle beam and the turtle also explained how to Defeat it.

Then Voldemort wouldn't be able to kill him, but in a random encounter he could possibly make Pennywise retreat. Without fear he will have a hard time putting Voldemort down.

I haven't read the books in a while but I don't remember voldy generating 80+mph winds and summoning lightning that destroyed an entire bridge out of anger. Movie pennywise like you said wasn't impressive at all.

I don't know about the books, but in the movie the death eaters caused a large cable bride to collapse as they flew by it and Voldemort knocked over an electrical tower in his anger.

@alextheboss: Pennywise doesn't near fear to put Voldemort down. Voldemort is a human for the most part in terms of durability and it can probably tear his arm off like he did to Georgie. The deadlights would drive Voldemort insane. I do think Voldemort would have a little trouble keeping up with the speeds of it.

@alextheboss: you do know Pennywise doesn't actually need fear right? If you watched the old tv special or read the book then you'd know he just prefers people who are afraid. To him it tastes different, like you'd be able to taste the difference between a deer who was surprised then killed and just straight killed swiftly.

@lfrankthetank27:

Pennywise doesn't near fear to put Voldemort down. Voldemort is a human for the most part in terms of durability and it can probably tear his arm off like he did to Georgie. The deadlights would drive Voldemort insane. I do think Voldemort would have a little trouble keeping up with the speeds of it.

Voldemort can teleport and turn into black smoke(in the movies), it would be really hard to catch him and rip him apart.

@hypnos0929:

you do know Pennywise doesn't actually need fear right? If you watched the old tv special or read the book then you'd know he just prefers people who are afraid. To him it tastes different, like you'd be able to taste the difference between a deer who was surprised then killed and just straight killed swiftly.

So did the movie completely make up Pennywise having less power over the children from them lacking fear? And I saw a video clip of one of the kids hurting Pennywise by just imagining his inhaler shot battery acid.

@alextheboss: Its a bit more complex than not being afraid. The inhaler worked because all the kids willed it to work and having less fear doesn't mean anything, it just means he has to work harder to get the good stuff. Honestly he could have killed all those kids a dozen times over but he likes to take his time and joke around

That make a hell of a spin off series.

All true. IT dicked around and got rekt. Even the Adults barely survive it as a hole, and IT killed Adult Eddie fine physically in the last battle.

Some sources actually said IT = Crimson King.

@khael: Their personalities seem way off for that.

Both are Deadlights....

Stephen King related CK to IT. Reason being is both used Deadlights (CK used them in Insomnia novel) and they are both Werespiders. HOWEVER, King stated they are not the same being, and that IT is related to Dandelo as far as species. Dandelo being a were beetle that mentally enslaves you with laughter and eats ya.

So... yeah.

@khael: You mean both are Werespiders. But they still have vastly different personalities.

Ya, I'm not disagreeing with this, but based off of feats Voldemort could kill thousands of kids banding together at once. Especially with a horoxcrux up, Voldemort won't be easy prey at the very least.

@alextheboss: the thing about hunters is they enjoy a hunt, the most difficult and dangerous prey is the best. It is the consumption to creation and fear from a deadly warlock would be something he'd never stop trying to obtain. Best case secenario is Voldemort kills Pennywise's body, and the deadlights aren't released but his essence lives on, and then has to live in fear that an evil god wants him dead, and we all know he's a paranoid individual. Worst case scenario is Pennywise toys with Voldemort, I mean Pennywise does have a taste for fun.

Voledemort stomps he has no fear of the clown. Fearless sorceror>>>>>fearless kids with sticks and shit.

@hypnos0929: But if that is the case why does Pennywise target kids instead of adults? I agree Voldemort would probably only destroy Pennywise's physical body.

@alextheboss: kids are easier to scare for one, and let's be real for a second large quanities of fast food is usually more filling than small portions of actually good food. Also adults don't exhibit the same level of fear as kids, what's IT going to do turning into a debt collector or turn into them and take out an unpayable loan?

Pennywise destroys Voldy. Acadia kedavra isn't doing jack to a multidimensional entity who is immortal and exists beyond this universe

Voldemort curbstomps.

@sirfizzwhizz: Even in movie form shouldn't pennywise win due to Voldermore being filled with fear(fear of death)....