Paper Person Of God Technique!!!

The calc seems legit, I'd just make 2 points:

The building those paper bombs were destroying seems to be a wooden house tbh.

what can of iron clad house do you live in?lol, anyway, I disagree, the outside appearance if the house might have been woody(most houses are), but the inside, as we can see, is full of stones(when minato is getting rid of the blanket on naruto in the scan).

Since they are bombs which are inherently AoE based attacks, the target would only be tanking a fraction of the power. So not exactly getting hit by mountain lvl power every second, even though the net output of 1 billion paper bombs might be that high.

I disagree, Konan surrounds her tags directly on the enemy so that they're getting the full bomb

As shirso said. That house was made of wood and judging from the size comparison to minato it looks more like a shed than a building

And as I said to shirso: what can of iron clad house do you live in?lol, anyway, I disagree, the outside appearance if the house might have been woody(most houses are), but the inside, as we can see, is full of stones(when minato is getting rid of the blanket on naruto in the scan). And how is minato comparable to the building? He's already past the stairs shown on the scans and is just a black spot......plus the whole house isn't even there anymore to scale.

Also the attack is spread out over like a mile? I know it was a large distance so it wouldn't be as much force for a person throw into it since the bombs aren't concentrated

No, the attack is spread out, why would konan explode tags a mile away from obito?? She surrounds the target with tags, so they're getting the full bomb

So, few things...

I'm listening

Multiple explosions are not additive. They aren't fuel for the other tags, they are individual explosions. We know this as Konan was exhausted after the 10 minutes, but if the tags were able to ignite other tags, then she would only have to ignite one and would have been fine.

but they are addictive. We know 1 explosive tag wouldn't be able to building bust, but 4-5 tags exploding at the same time can. Konan had to keep surrounding obito with the tags so she got tired, plus to she probably had to detonate the tags manually which uses up more chakra.

Secondly, most of those tags are not in range of the target. If a tag has a range of say, 10-20 feet, then you are really only looking at a small percentage of the total explosions effecting the target, well under 10% given the size of the cavern or whatever ( likely closer to 1%). So even if they were additive, your calculation is wrong.

Konan basically covers the person with her tags, so they're well within range, body to body, so how much of the total explosion percentage would that be??

Finally, explosions in the real world travel 360 degrees (when possible), which again, loses a lot of energy as the target cannot be 360 degrees around the tag unless the tag was inside of them.

Her explosions are happening right next to the target, like body to body next, and 1 billion explosions happening per second really makes the losing energy part of a normal explosion irrelevant.

Explosions are just a force. If you punch a brick wall, its not going to do anything. If you punch a brick wall 100 billion times, its still not going to do anything if your original punch did not have the force generated to weaken the structure at all.

That would be in the case if each tag happen individually which wasn't the case. In Konan's case it would be "you punch a wall 1 time and it does nothing, throwing a 100 billion punches at the same time and it would collapse"

Thus anyone who can completely no sell a tag would be unaffected by them, regardless of their number.

This right here is exactly what I trying to get rid of. If a person can no sell 1 tag, he's not no selling 100 or 10000 tags exploding at the same time on him. The only way that person would be able to no sell 100 tags like he did the 1 would be if each 100 tag exploded individual one after the other.

You can scale Paper Bombs to having Small Town Level potency by scaling from damaging Monster Gaara (who can tanks attacks from Jonin) and some fodder Jonin's hardening concrete with Katon if you wanted to create a high-end which i will probably use since i stan Konan 😎

no i mean like each paper bomb would small town level then you can multiply that by 1 billion a second 😎

Naruto's Paper Bomb Kunai was able to damage Monster Gaara in their fight, Gaara can easily tank attacks from Jounin who scale to these two calcs from some no name fodder Jounins in the War Arc which reach Small Town Level for each of them

But like i said can just be a high end for it 😎

@Aristeaus:

That's why she was guiding the tags to him, she literally surrounds him in tags. And same question I asked emperor, "why would she voluntarily detonate tags all the way at end of the river when her target is right in front of her?"

Except, she did. We know she did. We SAW it.

And that's why she was bringing them in range

A very small portion of the billions of tags. Almost all the explosions we see are not in range of a human sized target.

1 billion of those tags would have to be exploding at the same time for all 600 billion tags to finish the full 10 minutes, the time given says this, and what medium?

Medium as in Manga, Anime, etc.

Do you have any idea how much volume that amount of paper would take up? 1 Billion sheets of paper stacked on top of each other is 63 miles long. So even if you had Obito completely covered and every single one of the tags was glued onto others like some kinda weird paper machete, the explosions on the outside wouldn't even be remotely close to him.

Were talking about 38,000 miles of paper. Whats the range of a tag? 20 feet?

Again, not individual.......you are aware that if each tag exploded individually it would take 19,025 years for all 600 billion tags to exploded?? Have you ever tried using 2 heaters at the same time? Did it ever get more heated that if only 1 was used? You're basically saying using those 2 heaters wouldn't matter since they're both only the same levels of heat..........(might be my worse comparison lol)

Ahhh, so you are giving explosions magical, unrealistic properties. While they do generate heat, it is not how you factor the force of explosions at all. The heat is inconsequential for the most part. Your calc is Energy. That is what we are debating.

Its mostly the medias fault. People watch TV and Movies and think Grenades and the like give off fireballs of explosions when they go off. They don't. Not really how explosives work. They aren't designed that way.

@ultimatesage: we never see minato inside of the house. The brick you are referring to is still the inside of the cave kushina is at.

we do get to see the inside of the house in the anime and it's cover in concrete, the kushina thing was my bad.

Also the house I live in right now is made of pure concrete.

So no wood just concrete top to bottom?? Dang, that's a strong house, do you like live in areas where they get lots if hurricanes and floods or something?

When you look at the scan where it was used the split went out to the horizon and even continued off panel.

I saw the anime part of it and it does do what you said it does.........which is weird.

If it wasn't spread out then she would've made a much smaller hole for obito to fall into

the river makes more sense tho, I pretty obito wouldn't fall in a hole lol

@Aristeaus:

That just looked like the shockwaves of the tags going off no?? I mean, Obito can't fly(right now) and is just free falling straight down, so why would she deliberately explode tags not in range??

They are, but again, she did. Check the Anime out, its pretty specific.

Well, only around 200 million would have to be in range any ways, and all the explosions we see are above the split in the river.......

If a explosions goes off inside of a cavern like that, the pressure is pushed in 4 directions as opposed to 360 degrees, leading to larger upwards shockwaves.

Well, that's why magical paper shouldn't be compared to normal paper, Konan can cover a person in 100s and 1000s of paper all the while still keeping the human appearance/shape. Adding to the fact that she can shrink or enlarge her papers at will.......the volume shouldn't be a problem.

If your argument is that magical paper somehow defies the laws of physics, then your calculation for energy release ( which is based in the same laws ) has no bearing here. Can't really have it both ways.

20ft for the explosion or the tag itself?? And 38,000 miles?? How is 1 billion pieces of paper stacked that long? I didn't get that #......

1 Billion pieces of paper is 63 miles long. 600 billion is 38,000 miles long. Its literally impossible for the amount of tags there are to explode in range of a human target.

Well, this was mostly just me saying how using 2 heaters at once would be a greater than just using 1 as it is the same for the tags. Just like if you use 2 dynamites, the bomb is going to be stronger than if only 1 dynamite was used. And heat is apart of the explosion so why would it be inconsequential?

You saying heaters has nothing to do with the force of explosions. Multiple explosions can be more effective against specific targets. That is because you can weaken the structure with one, thus increasing the force generation from others when they go off. That is contingent on the structure being weakened however. If you can completely no sell the force of one explosion, the others will have no effect either.

Simply tying 10 sticks of dynamite together will never produce the same force as a single explosive with the same weight.

Grenades don't make big fireballs, but they do have heat in the explosion no?

Not really. Explosions are not designed for heat. There is a reaction that is ignited, but its very brief ( small fractions of a second, you would not even see it with the naked eye ). Anything that can withstand the force of a explosion is not going to be effected by the heat. If you cannot withstand the explosion, then the heat doesn't matter at all. Thus being inconsequential.

The total amount of thermal energy from a Grenade might burn your pinky toe if you removed the force from it. Its far, far less.

There are different types of explosives and some are even incendiary, specifically designed for thermal energy, but they don't produce a shockwave like seen by Tags.

Since they are bombs which are inherently AoE based attacks, the target would only be tanking a fraction of the power. So not exactly getting hit by mountain lvl power every second, even though the net output of 1 billion paper bombs might be that high.

Multiple explosions are not additive. They aren't fuel for the other tags, they are individual explosions. We know this as Konan was exhausted after the 10 minutes, but if the tags were able to ignite other tags, then she would only have to ignite one and would have been fine.

@ourmanuel: would you like it better if I used small buildings buster energ lv tho??