Ozymandias
Batmen
Rules:
- Random encounter
- No prior knowledge
- Bloodlusted
- Standard equipment
- Perfect teamwork
- Winner is by death, KO or incapacitation
- All canon feats for Batmen, Movie feats for Ozymandias
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Batmen, between their teamwork, gear and the fact that the layout is very much to their advantage, I think they can pretty much whoop him.
Whats standard equipment? Bat fleck had either his plane or tank at all times
Standard gear generally refers to on person equipment. For example, the Millenium Falcon wouldn't be considered Standard gear for Han Solo.
Batmen
Batmen. A case could be made for Batfleck and maybe even Baleman. Together they would probably win 8/10 in hard fought fights.
@kidchipotle: @allstarsuperman: @kingcrimson:Don't reply to people like that in the future.
Ozzy wins. I doubt they touch him. Just watch his fight end movie fight. He threw night owl down hard enought to crack stone. He hicked rorschach like 8 ft with a kick to the face. He threw rorschach like 15 or so feet into stone and cracked it and they couldnt land a hit on him even when he wasnt looking. Ozzy is a top tier street lvl. They have to win with gear or they get their ass handed to them in h2h
Nolan Batman solos Ozy by feats. Especially a top form composite version. Here's some proof:
Combat reflexes and speed
Batman after years of being out of business and after just having his leg put back together is still capable of moving with casual bullet timing reflexes (even at close range and against automatic gunner who is a professional assassin)
Physical strength feats
Batman before he even started his training routine in Gotham was able to stop a free falling body of Ras Al Ghul (102 kg + stopping the force of the fall) and then lift it back on the ledge with just one arm, and while having the other arm stuck in the ice.
Retired Batman with his back broken after just few weeks of doing pushups and eating hardboiled rice breaks the lenght jump record (from standing position) and then physically overpowers Bane who has even better physical feats then DK Batman.
Fighting skills and tactics:
Final fight from Dark Knight (top form Batman) says it all about Batman fighting skills. Batman fights several fully armed SWAT teams, and assasins hired by Joker in disguise of doctors, while he is also protecting hostages dressed as clowns from both of these groups and snipers on buildings nearby, and he pulls it off without losing a single hostage or killing a single enemy. You don't believe that takes skill? Then I don't know what does. Ozy's got nothing on this.
Equipment and armor:
Ozy doesn't use any weapons or gadgets, and even if his armor has actual combat-properties (we've seen it can block bullets from a hand gun so it probably does) he still has his neck and head exposed which doesn't help nearly as much as Batman's armor, that covers him head to toe in a nano-technology kevlar armor that can "block even direct shot and stop a knife". Not to mention Batman uses a shitloads of weapons, including potentially deadly batarangs, smoke weapons for ninja tactics and distractions, gas weapons for instant KO, advanced explosives, grapples and many others.
Sorry, but Ozy doesn't stand a chance against Nolan Batman. He is outgunned, outarmored, outskilled, outmuscled and outrun by Nolan Batman. Not even a close fight. But 2 Batmans? It's a laughable stomp.
@thoromdil: I've only watched the movies, but from there Baleman was very unimpressive and struggled with fodder.
Composite could contribute something to this battle, but otherwise Batfleck solos in a difficult fight.
@thoromdil: You're having me on if you think Nolan Batman can take Ozy single handed mate.
mostly ozy.
since he caught a bullet at point blank and none of the batman gadgets are faster than bullet.
are you high? Baleman gets stomped HARD by Ozy...
I just produced an essay proving he can stomp Ozy. If you don't have any real arguments to counter that, why even waste my time with a reply?
Dceu batman did little besides clear a werehouse, murder a bunch of people, and nearly kill a very holding back superman (or he is much,much,much weaker to prep than people say)....
Combat reflexes and speed
Batman after years of being out of business and after just having his leg put back together is still capable of moving with casual bullet timing reflexes (even at close range and against automatic gunner who is a professional assassin)
This is honestly probably Bats best feat in the entire series (maybe sans something in Batman Begins - been a while since I've seen that one), but he's not bullet timing. He's using the dark to his advantage along with some pretty skillful aim dodging.
It's more impressive that Ozy's feat of aim dodging against Roy Chess mostly because of the automatic weapon but Ozy still has the bullet catch over Baleman.
Physical strength feats
Batman before he even started his training routine in Gotham was able to stop a free falling body of Ras Al Ghul (102 kg + stopping the force of the fall) and then lift it back on the ledge with just one arm, and while having the other arm stuck in the ice.
Retired Batman with his back broken after just few weeks of doing pushups and eating hardboiled rice breaks the lenght jump record (from standing position) and then physically overpowers Bane who has even better physical feats then DK Batman.
I don't even see the point in addressing this. Ozy's strength feats eclipse these all massively. Casually throwing around fully grown men with enough force to break perspex glass and crack stone, leaping about 25ft from a standing start, kicking Rorschach about 20ft with a casual kick. Baleman is hopelessly outclassed. Nite Owl honestly has better striking strength feats.
Final fight from Dark Knight (top form Batman) says it all about Batman fighting skills. Batman fights several fully armed SWAT teams, and assasins hired by Joker in disguise of doctors, while he is also protecting hostages dressed as clowns from both of these groups and snipers on buildings nearby, and he pulls it off without losing a single hostage or killing a single enemy. You don't believe that takes skill? Then I don't know what does. Ozy's got nothing on this.
He took out SWAT teams that didn't even know he was there, using the element of surprise and his gear which at the time basically included X-Ray vision. It's a great feat, but it's not exactly combat skill and I don't see how it translates to a straight up fight with Ozy.
Ozy doesn't use any weapons or gadgets, and even if his armor has actual combat-properties (we've seen it can block bullets from a hand gun so it probably does) he still has his neck and head exposed which doesn't help nearly as much as Batman's armor, that covers him head to toe in a nano-technology kevlar armor that can "block even direct shot and stop a knife". Not to mention Batman uses a shitloads of weapons, including potentially deadly batarangs, smoke weapons for ninja tactics and distractions, gas weapons for instant KO, advanced explosives, grapples and many others.
Neither of their armours really benefit them against their opponents here. Baleman isn't gonna aim for Ozy's head with any batarangs (not like he doesn't have the feats to dodge them anyway) and his armour doesn't protect him all that well from blunt force trauma which Veidt is gonna give to him in spades. His other gadgets are really his only advantage, but without knowledge he's not getting a chance to use them at a 10ft starting distance.
Sorry, but Ozy doesn't stand a chance against Nolan Batman. He is outgunned, outarmored, outskilled, outmuscled and outrun by Nolan Batman.
He may have less gadgets, but Ozy is stronger, more skilled, marginally faster by feats and we never even see him try. The 2 Batmen probably beat him due to a gear advantage and DCEU bats physicals, but the idea that Baleman stomps him single handed under these conditions is ludicrous.
Ozy was barely trying against Rorschach and Nite Owl, if he was bloodlusted then Alfreds would have some funerals to attend.
Ozy hands down with his Dr. manhattan nuke or giant squid which are city-level destructive feats.
(P.S. Not to be taken seriously :P Just to rile up some Ozy fans out there)
Hate him or like him but Ozy was super skilled or something man. Those two dudes couldn't even land a single hit. Ozy was fast strong and had super reflexes. He's clearly better in every field than your top live action peak humans now like CW Arrow or MCU Matt Murdock.
That being said, the Batmen win this because standard gear for both the Bat Vigilantes mean an awful lot of tricks and effective equipment. Unless you're high tier superhuman, you can't hope to beat that. Ozy loses only because of the superior gear of the Batmen
Lol at Nolan Batman soloing. Bane is like 1/20th of Ozy physically, and he had no skill. Yet Batman wasn't able to defeat him just cause he took some Advil.
Batfleck striking power is up there compared to watchmen standards... But Ozy is h2h grandmaster and bullet timer.
Ozy takes majority 7/10
edit: just realised this isn't pure h2h and there's gear with perfect teamwork. team wins mod dif
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