Ozymandias (Film) vs Ultron bots (MCU)

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Rules:

  • Morals On/In Character
  • No Knowledge/Random Encounter
  • Pure H2H. No weapons
  • After each round he is given rest
  • Fight takes place in the streets of Venice

Gauntlet

Round 1: 1 Ultron bot

Round 2: 2 Ultron bots

Round 3: 4 Ultron bots

Round 4: 6 Ultron bots

Round 5: 8 Ultron bots

Round 6: 10 Ultron bots

Round 7: 15 Ultron bots

Round 8: 20 Ultron bots

Round 9: 50 Ultron bots

So how far can Ozy make it?

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H2h might be tough. No one lower than cap was dispatching these with hands only. I say he may struggle with 1. Anything more will be too much.

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Potentially clears.

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@depinhom said:

Potentially clears.

Ozy doesn't come close to clearing.

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Without weapons or prep stops at 2 (at best)

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@depinhom said:

Potentially clears.

Ozy doesn't come close to clearing.

From what I recall about Ultron bots, they're not very good fighters and are easily destroyed. Between Ozy's superior intellect, immense strength, impeccable skill, and insane striking power, he has a solid shot at at least making it to the last round.

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#8  Edited By MK39

@depinhom: They're easily destroyed by characters much MUCH stronger than Ozymandias. Lower level avengers (Widow, Hawkeye, Cap, arguably Quicksilver) were clearly struggling. These things can lift cars, bust through concrete, no-sell AK-47 rounds, fly, and fire energy blasts. Ozy stops at round 3 if he even gets there. Stopping at round 1 is a very real possibility.

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Clears easily ... Cap was taking them why not Ozzymandias?

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Stops at R4.

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He definitely stops at round 3.

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Clears easily ... Cap was taking them why not Ozzymandias?

IIRC Ozy doesnt have anywhere near the level of strength feats Cap does. With out his shield Cap was able to rip them apart. Dont think Ozy has any feats to say he could rip apart titanium.

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@mk39 I agree he doesnt clear, not even close, but i disagree on one point, Quicksilver was not struggling only time he slowed down was when he was actually tired

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I think Oz stops at 1, he could be able to knock it around but not destroy it.

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#15  Edited By MK39

@agencyagent34:1: Cap was having a hard time with only a handful. 2: Ozy is not Cap.

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@savageslayer: Yeah, I get your point. I'm just saying that their numerical advantage (and the fact that putting one down takes significantly more effort than putting down a normal human) tired him out, proving that even he, who I'd rank considerably higher than Ozymandias wasn't clearing through them with ease either.

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Maybe makes it to round 3.

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@agencyagent34: Because Cap has Class 10+ strength and durability feats far surpass Ozy

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@mk39:You call this struggling :

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If your definition of struggling is casually one shot titanium bots with a punch or kick and easily overpower and rip them apart ( which is something even the bots can't do to each other ) with his bare hands than you need to check your vocabulary.

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Someplace between 1-2. Beating up Rorschach and Night Owl, or the Comedian don't bring him anywhere near being able to take on the bots without prep and equipment.

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#21  Edited By Drk045

Unless Ozy has strength feats anywhere near Cap hes Stopping at 1.

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@tsol said:

@mk39:You call this struggling :

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Seems like an Endless loop of vision throwing Cap a sentry to kill.

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If Cap can backhand them easily, Ozy should have no issue destroying a bot. He doesn't clear though, that's absurd, Cap never fought more than a handful at once and 50 bots is way too much.

I am saying maybe round 3, definitely round 4

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#24  Edited By Mee09

All these people trying to compare Caps strength to Ozymandias need to stop. I think Ozymandias is underrated on this site to a pretty big extent as far as his combat skill goes. But Captain America in the MCU is ridiculously strong. Honestly he has actually done some things in the movies that I don't even think comic book Cap could replicate.

In Civil War the guy literally kept a Helicopter from taking off. He grabbed it by its leg and no matter how much Winter Soldier tried he couldn't get any further out into the sky because Cap was literally pulling it out of the sky and back onto the building. Plus the dude was outrunning cars on the highway while fighting Black Panther and shield agents/law enforcement. Even in his first movie the guy literally swam underwater and punched a hole in a submarine. I've never seen comic book Cap do anything like that in my life LOL. I'm pretty sure MCU Cap has done a whole lot more than that too but that is out of the top of my head.

I don't think Ozymandias gets passed round 2.

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@cpt_nice: Cap can back hand them because Cap is significantly stronger than Ozy. Unless you are saying Ozy has any strength feats that would put him even close to MCU Cap

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@mee09 said:

Honestly he has actually done some things in the movies that I don't even think comic book Cap could replicate.

Pfft, MCU cap would destroy 616 Steve.

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@drk045 said:
@tsol said:

@mk39:You call this struggling :

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Seems like an Endless loop of vision throwing Cap a sentry to kill.

LOL

Here is the extended version of the GIF :

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An Ultron bot took Cap by surprise and grabbed Cap's neck due to the fact that Cap was battling with other bots and didn't pay attention to that bot. Then Cap proceeded to overpower and put that Ultron bot in a headlock and ripped his head off.

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@drk045: You are taking what I said out of context.

Although MCU Cap has the much better strength feats. We are never going to see comic book Cap do some of the things MCU Cap has done without his shield. It's freaking ridiculous. 616 Cap got the crap beat out of him by a fodder robot when he lost his shield saying: "I'll never surrender!". Meanwhile MCU Cap could've beaten the same fodder robot to pieces with his bare hands like he did to the Ultron Bots and many other things in the MCU.

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@mee09 said:

@drk045: You are taking what I said out of context.

Although MCU Cap has the much better strength feats. We are never going to see comic book Cap do some of the things MCU Cap has done without his shield. It's freaking ridiculous. 616 Cap got the crap beat out of him by a fodder robot when he lost his shield saying: "I'll never surrender!". Meanwhile MCU Cap could've beaten the same fodder robot to pieces with his bare hands like he did to the Ultron Bots and many other things in the MCU.

And thats why MCU cap would wreck 616.

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#30  Edited By TheSuperor

Stops at 4 or 5

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@mee09: @drk045:And both MCU and 616 Cap are nothing compare to Ultimate Cap

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#32  Edited By Drk045

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@mee09: @drk045:And both MCU and 616 Cap are nothing compare to Ultimate Cap

I disagree. MCU cap Should destroy him too.

Ultimate Cap cant pull helicopters or beat his own Ironman AFAIK so he will get oneshotted.

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#33  Edited By omnipotence88

@drk045: Ultimate Cap beat war machine aND can fight with asgardians

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@drk045: Are you trolling ? Ultimate Cap has one shot 100+ toner and has strength in Class 25+, while MCU Cap is Class 10+ at best. Not only that he has tanked hits from 80+ toner while heavily tranquillised, then beat the shit out of those 80+ toner, then survived a ramming 1000+ toner Ultimate Iron Man that crater the earth. And he has a shit load amount of this kind of feats :p

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@drk045 said:
@tsol said:

@mee09: @drk045:And both MCU and 616 Cap are nothing compare to Ultimate Cap

I disagree. MCU cap Should destroy him too.

Ultimate Cap cant pull helicopters or beat his own Ironman AFAIK so he will get oneshotted.

Ultimate cap has beaten Ultimate Iron Patriot that is>>>>>>>>>>>>MCU Iron man.

He has strength feats that easily surpass MCU cap's and has fought much much tougher opponents.

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@tsol said:

@pierpat: I think he is just kidding .

Oh, my bad then.
Weird way to joke around.

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Probably like round 5.

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Stops at 2 or 3.

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#40  Edited By MK39

@tsol said:

You call this struggling :

Other than the first gif, yeah.

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If your definition of struggling is casually one shot titanium bots with a punch or kick and easily overpower and rip them apart ( which is something even the bots can't do to each other ) with his bare hands than you need to check your vocabulary.

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@tsol: I literally don't have a care in the world about "Ultimate" Cap.

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#43  Edited By Silverrings

Ozymandias isn't as physically far behind Cap as people think. He's not quite as strong, and lacking the shield doesn't help, but he can definitely take out a lot of these robots at once. They weren't that impressive and, more importantly, were very inconsistent. Despite clearly being durable enough to tank bullets and break through walls with minimal effort, as well as flying around and whatnot, they were getting taken down by normal arrows and hits from Widow and Quicksilver. The robots also used absolutely no tactics, they just swarmed their enemies, and not that effectively. They employed the classic one-at-a-time attack technique, in spite of their ridiculously superior numbers.

Ozy can handle a lot of these inept and inconsistent machines at once, but i'd say things start getting properly difficult from eight upwards.

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@silverrings: He isn't as far behind 616 Captain America in physical strength yes. But MCU is an entirely different story. MCU Cap is clearly superhuman.

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#45 owie  Moderator

Only a couple at best. As far as I can recall, Ozy's feats revolve around skill and speed, and I don't think that's enough to take out any kind of moderately durable robots by hand--unless he ends up sinking them in the canals or something. But I don't think that would really stop them.

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@mee09: He is, and so is Ozymandias. The jumps he makes, how far he throws people, how fast he is, it's all very much superhuman.

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@drk045 said:
@mee09 said:

Honestly he has actually done some things in the movies that I don't even think comic book Cap could replicate.

Pfft, MCU cap would destroy 616 Steve.

No, he wouldn't, not even close.

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@mee09 said:

@silverrings: He isn't as far behind 616 Captain America in physical strength yes. But MCU is an entirely different story. MCU Cap is clearly superhuman.

And 616 Steve isn't superhuman?

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@paragonnate: I second both of those comments, just by the way.

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#50  Edited By MK39

@silverrings: Hawkeye only did damage by hitting key areas like the eyes or landing explosive/electic arrows in the gaps between the armor. Otherwise the arrows did nothing (there's a shot of one pulling an arrow out of it's chest like nothing happened.) To my memory Widow only destroyed them using electrified batons or the bulldozer (maybe one scene of her unloading a clip into an already half destroyed one.) Also keep in mind that the bots were fighting Sokovian police forces at the same time. Once they all actually focused on the avengers, they swarmed at once.