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- 100 Sentinels vs 1000 Outriders
- Win by total wipeout
- Base Sentinels
- Once they arrive to the battle location, Sentinels can´t fly. (I don´t think they were shown to fly during combat tho)
- No beams, pure combat.
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@supermanfan1938: Ikr, but then I recall this scene where they gang up the Hulkbuster.
And I wonder if they could replicate that here. More or less
Sentinels learn and adapt while outsiders just have pact tactics. That only takes them so far before the sentinels start cleaning house
@payneintheass: Hulkbuster was being used by Bruce , who had no experience of using any suit , let alone Hulkbuster. He was using it like an absolute noob , so ganging up on him and throwing him down isn't all that impressive.
Outriders i think. Sentinels were created specially to fight mutants to copy their power and use them against the others
@the_red_devil: I can agree . but the Sentinels never showed great speed combat wise. I could see them being able to take down some Sentinels this way. Problem is damage output.
Overall, I have this feeling that Outriders were weak due to being in a pg-13 Avengers movie. If that makes any sense to you
They are very fast, suposedely very vicious, but they can´t show them killing Buck or Cap, even when they have the upper hand and have four arms. They end up just being fodder, and, as I said , I think they should be way better.
@fantaman12: they use mystiques power to alter themselves, they don’t need mutants present to alter themselves and adapt to who they are facing.
@skrskr: I think they need to combat first. Sentinel didn´t adapt to Colossus before it was hit by him,
Sentinel didn´t kill Iceman before being freeze first. And so on.
@payneintheass: that’s what I said, they adapt to whatever they are facing in combat.
It doesn’t need to be mutants though.
Outriders might need more numbers to take this. 10-1 feels clearable since Sentinels have range advantage. It's a decent fight if they can get up close.
@skrskr: no, sentinels do not start with all their abilities. They can only maybe shoot a beam and turn hands into spears without adapting. But they don't use other abilities if not responding to mutant abilities. Also, Mystique doesn't copy powers 1 for 1. In fact the explanation is pretty dumb when we've seen over and over again how her powers work.
@rebake: someone hasn’t seen the movie or forgot about the movie, they explained that they captured mystique and exploited her powers and basically cracked the code to how her abilities worked and made them even better for the sentinels. They fundamentally change themselves (the same way mystique changes her physical features) but on a much grander scale.
Ex 1: the sentinel that used ice powers to counteract the fire didn’t use powers like iceman, he just made himself super low temps to counteract the heat.
Ex 2 : the sentinel that kills Bobby doesn’t use pyrokinesis like the fire mutant, he just heats himself up.
Also both of these sentinel fights happened independently.
I never stated they start with abilities, I said they adapt to whatever problem they are facing.
It is worth noting they have rogues abilities also (directly copies colossus’s powers from touch) but they never touched Bobby or the fire mutant when they used the ice and fire abilities.
It took like 8 Outriders to drop Hulkbuster, which even if piloted by Banner and at half the stats of the OG suit would mean that 10 Outriders humiliate a single Sentinel.
It took like 8 Outriders to drop Hulkbuster, which even if piloted by Banner and at half the stats of the OG suit would mean that 10 Outriders humiliate a single Sentinel.
and if a Sentinel goes airbourne?
It took like 8 Outriders to drop Hulkbuster, which even if piloted by Banner and at half the stats of the OG suit would mean that 10 Outriders humiliate a single Sentinel.
and if a Sentinel goes airbourne?
- Once they arrive to the battle location, Sentinels can´t fly. (I don´t think they were shown to fly during combat tho)
Read the OP next time, newb.
@payneintheass: Sentinels were much more superior in all other aspects , and also had adaptivity.
@the_red_devil: Sure , only stat better for Outriders is speed, and numbers in this case.
I just think it would be a closer fight than people think. With these rules, anyway.
Sentinels win here I think, they're capable of defeating more than just fodder, like killing actual x men at times.
They can adapt as well.
Is this serious?
1 to 100 ratio would fit better (and I’m honestly not joking) The Sentinel were beasts!
Even Black Widow and Wakandan foot soldiers can survive an onslaught of Outriders. Sentinels trash them with the utmost of ease.
No beams? Then Outriders swarm them. They're going down like the Hulkbuster and they lack durability to say they can resist Outrider claws. Sentinels are strong but not as fast and vicious as Outriders. Outriders aren't mutants so Sentinels won't adapt to them and their base stats aren't enough.
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