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#1  Edited By ShadowKing

The fight takes place at the Great Wall of China.  
The Green Machine is enraged. Orion is enraged, too.
No speed blitzing or BFR. Win is by Death only.   
Current Hulk and Past Orion. No prep. Both shall start about 120 yards apart there.  Who shall win, y'all?..... I don't know. :) 
 
 
 

   
   

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#2  Edited By WindCloud
@ShadowKing:  If Orion has morals on for this fight, then he cannot win by killing the Hulk.  So,  I'm a bit confused here as to what exactly are your stipulations for this fight.
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#3  Edited By ShadowKing
@WindCloud: sorry i'll change the morals.
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#4  Edited By daak1212

Hmm so lets see, pretty much a Black Adam tier god who is quite angry vs Hulk....a very very very angry green giant.  Well this isnt a stomp but I think I will lean this to Orion just by a tad bit.  Hulk can handle himself but I think Orion is a lil much.

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#5  Edited By WindCloud
@ShadowKing said:
@WindCloud: sorry i'll change the morals.
No worries.  In any case, Orion is way too strong for even an enraged Hulk to handle.  Orion wins by sucker-punching Hulk to the moon.
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#6  Edited By theicon

hulk  tare's him apart

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#7  Edited By ssejllenrad
@theicon said:
hulk  tare's him apart
Hell no.
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#8  Edited By ShadowKing
@WindCloud: thanks.
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#9  Edited By deactivated-5bf70359d2dd1

Orion.

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#10  Edited By Super_SoldierXII

Orion.
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#12  Edited By IZZR

Orion has gone toe to toe with Superman, Kalibak, Black Adam, Darkseid and when harnessing the full astro Force he took on a Darkseid who was almost as powerful as the source

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#13  Edited By Killemall
@IZZR: well I KNOW ITS NON-CANNON but Orion lost pretty easily against silver surfer in Galactus vs Darkseid the hunger :) so i think Hulk has a chance.. 
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#14  Edited By PikminMania
@Killemall: Hulk has no chance against Silver Surfer though.
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#15  Edited By Killemall
@PikminMania: Well it depends :) silver surfer regularly loses to thor (which makes little sense) not saying SS hasnt won against thor, but most often he loses. Hulk most often beats thor.. i can remember Thor beating hulk like 2 times, Hulk has beaten thor more than like 4 times although neither has actually beaten the other to death..  so i think hulk has a chance.. 
 
BTW are you following fear itself, thor punched a hole through galactus's helmet i hear?/ WTF is going on?? lol 
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#16  Edited By Boobster
@Killemall said:
@PikminMania: Well it depends :) silver surfer regularly loses to thor (which makes little sense) not saying SS hasnt won against thor, but most often he loses. Hulk most often beats thor.. i can remember Thor beating hulk like 2 times, Hulk has beaten thor more than like 4 times although neither has actually beaten the other to death..  so i think hulk has a chance..  BTW are you following fear itself, thor punched a hole through galactus's helmet i hear?/ WTF is going on?? lol 
That is not in Fear Itself, it is Mighty Thor series. I'll tell you what's going on, Fraction tries to make Asgardians look like they're a match for Galactus or Silver Surfer, so he makes Silver Surfer hold back a lot while Thor and Odin are like little angry kids shouting with saliva all over their faces. In fact, Galactus can pretty one-shot an entire Asgard. All hail the Fraction !
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#17  Edited By Killemall
@Boobster: Oh ok now it makes sense coz yeah that's what i though u know.. i mean Galactus vs Thor sound a little funny :D its like me fighting Bruce Lee, when he was alive and at his prime :) .. unless i can hit him on his balls with a giant hammer, i pretty much have no chance. And considering the fact that galactus might have balls and thor does have a hammer that's the only chance i see for thor :)
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#18  Edited By Boobster
@Killemall said:
@Boobster: Oh ok now it makes sense coz yeah that's what i though u know.. i mean Galactus vs Thor sound a little funny :D its like me fighting Bruce Lee, when he was alive and at his prime :) .. unless i can hit him on his balls with a giant hammer, i pretty much have no chance. And considering the fact that galactus might have balls and thor does have a hammer that's the only chance i see for thor :)
Galactus has balls ? I know he has a daughter, but what woman could satisfy  big G that much ? 0_0
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#19  Edited By Killemall
@Boobster: he can change size, so u know he can change his Pxxxx's size to match the need of the lady ;) and somehow has to be satisfied, what choices he has, unless he humped someone like Mistress Love or Lady Death.. but then he'll have thanos and Deadpool running after him for revenge :) 
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#20  Edited By HumanNumber
@Killemall said:
@IZZR: well I KNOW ITS NON-CANNON but Orion lost pretty easily against silver surfer in Galactus vs Darkseid the hunger :) so i think Hulk has a chance.. 
Why admit that it's non-canon and then turn around and try using it to justify a chance for the Hulk? Like Oswald trying to use a blank to kill JFK, it doesn't accomplish anything.
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#21  Edited By Killemall
@HumanNumber: come on man despite it being non cannon the writers know more about the characters then we do, after all it was published by the definitive comic universe. from what i see, i think non-cannon publication can be used to make a point, but well the point made will not hold as much weight as a cannon publication and neither will be be definitive :) 
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#22  Edited By PikminMania
@Killemall: @Boobster: 
 
Fear Itself is turning into a mess I think, the whole "Marvel giving people stuff for ripping up DC comics" makes Marvel just seem like bratty a**holes.
 
Also, Galacta is really hot, I thought I'd just point that out.
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#23  Edited By Killemall
@PikminMania: i havent read it yet , but i have heard enough negative comments :) will wait for the series to end and download it via comicpirates :) hehe 
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#24  Edited By HumanNumber
@Killemall said:
@HumanNumber: come on man despite it being non cannon the writers know more about the characters then we do, after all it was published by the definitive comic universe. from what i see, i think non-cannon publication can be used to make a point, but well the point made will not hold as much weight as a cannon publication and neither will be be definitive :) 
The writers don't always know more than us, sometimes the writers seem to have no clue. I doubt Busiek was an expert on all the characters that appeared in the crossover, too my knowledge he has never written Orion.
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#25  Edited By Killemall
@HumanNumber: I suppose u have a point, i can relate it back to the comic where sentry defeated molecular man :) so i agree 
 
On the fact that Hulk has chance, hulk as beaten thor before and ppl argue almost constantly that thor could handle superman :)  so by that logic i suppose Hulk could handle Orion. Besides he is technically suppose to grow stronger the angrier he gets which no known limit (Beyonder who was like super duper power and supreme did say he had limitless powers)
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#26  Edited By HumanNumber
@Killemall: I believe Thor routinely holds back against the hulk or at least doesn't utilize his speed and various abilities granted by his hammer. Just because some users believe Thor can "handle" Superman doesn't make it so, i actually think the majority believes the opposite. ABC logic isn't very logical when it comes to comics because comics have lots of plot(which likes to make certain that things that probably shouldn't happen, happen.) and lots of different writers(who fluctuate various character's power levels and make certain things that probably shouldn't happen, happen.), by the time you get to C too many factors muddle things up. Hulk's strength is only theoretically limitless, to me anger isn't limitless. I doubt Hulk will get much angrier than he was in WWH, especially against a guy he's never met before.
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#27  Edited By Killemall
@HumanNumber: well techinically if he keeps punching him sooner or later he will.. and i dont see any sign of thor holding back on this one.. besides its very funny :) besides if you talk about majority most ppl believe superman beats orion too :) 
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#28  Edited By PowerHerc

Orion wins by using the Astro Force.

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#29  Edited By blacharrt

You guys do realize Current Hulk is The Worthy Hulk., Right? 

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#30  Edited By gravitypress
@Killemall: Thor has beaten Hulk about 50% of the time. So posting one win is deceptive.
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#31  Edited By Killemall
@blacharrt: Current hulk is the worthy hulk??? he's got a hammer now?? 
@gravitypress: I know, i did mention that in earlier post, the only thing i was trying to show is THOR doesnt ALWAYS hold back :) but yeah i understand there are many instances of thor beating hulk too.. 
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#32  Edited By blacharrt
@Killemall: yup, current Hulk, Magic hammer and all.
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#33  Edited By Killemall
@blacharrt: Cool i didnt know.. btw does the hammer let him fly too?? man if it does Orion is history in my opinion :)
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#34  Edited By Boobster
@Killemall said:
@blacharrt: Cool i didnt know.. btw does the hammer let him fly too?? man if it does Orion is history in my opinion :)
I haven't noticed Nul being able to fly. I saw Angrir flying, but not Nul.
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#35  Edited By Killemall
@Boobster: Ok i am gonna bite who's Nul and what are u talking about :( man i'm so lost.. 
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#36  Edited By Super_SoldierXII

Wow... this thread has been highjacked in oh so many ways. From Galactus' balls to everything else and the kitchen sink, but little relevant to justifying Hulk beating Orion. The Silver Surfer beat Orion in a non-canon read and so Hulk stands a chance? Hulk's not in Surfer's league anyways... really he isn't.  
 
And as to Thor;
 
There is earthbound Thor and Asgardian god of thunder Thor. 
 
Thor only ever slugs it out with Hulk. He rarely unleashes godly hell on him. So ya, an earthbound Thor in a fist fight with Hulk I would give it 50/50. And just so we can all understand how Earth and Earth's atmosphere effects Asgardians; 
 
 
 
Aside from it clearly being stated here, there are more instances thoughout the years that have referenced Thor's power being somewhat muted while on 'Midgard' as well. Which goes a long way to explain many of his more outstanding feats against Celestials, gods and demons while adventuring outside of earth. Also why he poses a definite and bonafide threat to Silver Surfer.  
 
There are also a few instances where Thor, in space, is travelling in multiples faster than light speed. Which is to say he could cover every inch of earth's surface multiple times within a single second at those speeds. So his power, when he bothers to utilize it, is quite up there. 
 
So, despite Hulk holding his own against Thor in a fist fight, Hulk will lose to Orion IMO. 
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#37  Edited By Boobster
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@Boobster: Ok i am gonna bite who's Nul and what are u talking about :( man i'm so lost.. 
Nul is Hulk with Worthy hammer.
Angrir is Thing with Worthy hammer.
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#38  Edited By Killemall
@Boobster: Thing has a hammer too.. is there anyone who doesnt have a hammer?? what the heck is going on is there a hammer sale in walmart?? Man which series are we talking about, which series do i start to download from??
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#39  Edited By blacharrt
@Killemall: I haven't seen as such, but the Hulk could already leap continents, but there ability so far are amped, the The Worthy thing beat the crap out of Rulk, he's gonna get hulk from Modok.  It's unclear whether there is a commonality between all of the worthy's powers but the fast that they are a lot stronger than they were before. thing was casually knocking towers down in NY, and Juggs had superspeed, which is a scary thought.
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#40  Edited By Boobster
@Killemall said:
@Boobster: Thing has a hammer too.. is there anyone who doesnt have a hammer?? what the heck is going on is there a hammer sale in walmart?? Man which series are we talking about, which series do i start to download from??
Fear Itself.
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#41  Edited By Killemall
@Boobster: Ok cool and the series isnt complete yet.. i gotta wait like a month after the series is complete and then i can download it :)
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#42  Edited By IZZR
@Killemall: Dude its non cannon for a reason because SS cant do that to Orion, he might be able to beat him at his current level but thats without Orion utilising the full astro force otherwise its lights out for Silver Surfer, SS might get his power from Galactus but Orion gets his from the source so seriously SS can never truly beat Orion if its Morals off
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#43  Edited By Boobster

Facepalm.

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orion

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#45  Edited By IZZR
@Boobster said:
Facepalm.
Dude go read all the Orion issues by Jack Kirby then come back and facepalm sheeesh
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#47  Edited By Killemall
@IZZR: i still dont get if, Galactus made the silver surfer but he drives his powers from power cosmic (cosmos = universe). His power is limitless as well. Besides just because it is a crossover doesnt mean a writer can come and write whatever he wasnt, i mean after all u cant use someone else's character before full approval. I am not sure who was the created of Orion but from your post i am guessing its Jack Kirby, he should have been informed about this character and he should have agreed. Like whoever created silver surfer would have been informed about them showing that silver surfer would be powerless after he's knocked off the board in the movies, must have been approved by the orginal creator. In movies that makes sense, if the thing was so far off what Kirby had though it make no sense degrading a character's power in comics.. so i know its not cannon, so i cannot and willnot post that as a decisive argument, but i am still leaning towards what i said :)
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#48  Edited By Killemall
@blacharrt: Juggy as a worthy is gonna be a serious adversary for most superheroes.. does he still have the power of cyttorac (how the hell do u spell it) the crazy jelly kinda looking guys who looks lazy but is insanely powerful.. ??
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#49  Edited By Death Certificate
 
 
That kills any debate with sliver surfer and hulk. 
 
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#50  Edited By Boobster
@Killemall said:
@blacharrt: Juggy as a worthy is gonna be a serious adversary for most superheroes.. does he still have the power of cyttorac (how the hell do u spell it) the crazy jelly kinda looking guys who looks lazy but is insanely powerful.. ??
Kuurth ( worthy Juggernaut ) is my favourite Worthy. The most awesome looking one and is the most powerful. He is truly unstoppable now, nothing could withstand him, even telepathy doesn't work on him now.
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