Snake from MGS4 and he has standard gear only.
Old Solid Snake vs Old Man Logan
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@sirfizzwhizz: Oh please, Old snake is garbage. Logan owns him XD
@warlockmage: too bad tranqs work on Wolverine and Deadpool fine.
Tranq that put down elephants, GG. So sad Wolverine is not unbeatable. Next time maybe.
wow some people are salty over OML...
oh he wins btw.
Triggered? Lol
@warlockmage: too bad tranqs work on Wolverine and Deadpool fine.
Tranq that put down elephants, GG. So sad Wolverine is not unbeatable. Next time maybe.
yeah too bad it takes more than 1... it also requires to person to tag them. since OML is more than fast enough to easily dodge them i dont see why Snake is gonna tranq him
but hey why put any cognitive thought process into it, is it time for round 2 of "why Wolverine wins again"
@warlockmage: too bad tranqs work on Wolverine and Deadpool fine.
Tranq that put down elephants, GG. So sad Wolverine is not unbeatable. Next time maybe.
yeah too bad it takes more than 1... it also requires to person to tag them. since OML is more than fast enough to easily dodge them i dont see why Snake is gonna tranq him
but hey why put any cognitive thought process into it, is it time for round 2 of "why Wolverine wins again"
No it doesn't.
Otocon states one Chemical Stun, not plural, can take down a elephant.
Deadpool states after putting counted 6 tranqs into Wolverine that the overall amount of Sedatives can KO a T-Rex. not one but he refers to the amount in Wolverine already, six tranqs to KO a T-Rex.
Largest Elephant known ways 12 tons and largest T Rex is 9-10 tons. Or we use average T Rex which is 8 tons and Elephant which is 7 tons. That means there is more KO juice in Snakes tranq than in the 6 Deadpool used on Wolverine.
DEAL WITH IT MATE LOLOLOL
WARLOCK GOING TO HATE HAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Snake takes this easy.
Snake.
@warlockmage: too bad tranqs work on Wolverine and Deadpool fine.
Tranq that put down elephants, GG. So sad Wolverine is not unbeatable. Next time maybe.
Tranqs aren't gonna work son.
@warlockmage: too bad tranqs work on Wolverine and Deadpool fine.
Tranq that put down elephants, GG. So sad Wolverine is not unbeatable. Next time maybe.
Tranqs aren't gonna work son.
dont bother with SFW... i already took down one of his favorite characters with Wolverine, and if hes really itching for round 2 he can go down to the CaV thread... although i did miss that second scan... do you know where its from?
@geekmangacomic: Um, your kinda prove my point. LMAO.
I already showed Tranqs that KO a T Rex work on Logan. You backed this further with Tranqs that will drop (Not Kill LMAO) a Rino which weigh waaaaay less than T Rex or Elephant.
Thanks for proving my point.
@warlockmage: Says the guy who ran away from the Red Hulk vs Ultimate Hulk fight, and the same guy who gets overwhelmingly called out on being wrong anyway lol. Sure Warlock....
Also you refer to my Miles vs Wolverine thread? Considering the Miles hate is real, not surprise. The real issue is you beating a famous character I like to use vs a famous character you like to use. Then you can talk shit. Oh wait, you still ran out on Red Hulk vs Ultimate Hulk when you were Serrur still. NVM. We are even.
@warlockmage: too bad tranqs work on Wolverine and Deadpool fine.
Tranq that put down elephants, GG. So sad Wolverine is not unbeatable. Next time maybe.
Tranqs aren't gonna work son.
dont bother with SFW... i already took down one of his favorite characters with Wolverine, and if hes really itching for round 2 he can go down to the CaV thread... although i did miss that second scan... do you know where its from?
All-New Wolverine #12
@geekmangacomic: Um, your kinda prove my point. LMAO.
I already showed Tranqs that KO a T Rex work on Logan. You backed this further with Tranqs that will drop (Not Kill LMAO) a Rino which weigh waaaaay less than T Rex or Elephant.
Thanks for proving my point.
Not a Rhino. The Rhino. As in the Spider-Man villain. Also, that's 616 Wolverine that was knocked out by the T-Rex tranqs. OMLogan is rom Earth-807128 and has a different history. Besides, who says Snake could even land a hit on Logan? He's fast enough to keep up with Miles Morales, who's a bullet-timer.
Not a Rhino. The Rhino. As in the Spider-Man villain.
This is worse then. The Rhino weighs around 1 ton area. Tranqs work by potency to weight. Spider man's Rhino has no healing factor either lmao.
Also, that's 616 Wolverine that was knocked out by the T-Rex tranqs. OMLogan is rom Earth-807128 and has a different history.
Same powers and ability. Same person really in many ways with his history of events before the wasteland.
Besides, who says Snake could even land a hit on Logan? He's fast enough to keep up with Miles Morales, who's a bullet-timer.
Solid Snake is insane fast by feats, easy bullet timer as well. He is super human. Genetically bred with perfect soldier genes to be better than any human. So why can he not tag Wolverine with one tranq?
@warlockmage: too bad tranqs work on Wolverine and Deadpool fine.
Tranq that put down elephants, GG. So sad Wolverine is not unbeatable. Next time maybe.
Tranqs aren't gonna work son.
@warlockmage: Says the guy who ran away from the Red Hulk vs Ultimate Hulk fight, and the same guy who gets overwhelmingly called out on being wrong anyway lol. Sure Warlock....
Also you refer to my Miles vs Wolverine thread? Considering the Miles hate is real, not surprise. The real issue is you beating a famous character I like to use vs a famous character you like to use. Then you can talk shit. Oh wait, you still ran out on Red Hulk vs Ultimate Hulk when you were Serrur still. NVM. We are even.
Running away from debates is what WarlockMage would be known for if he was known at all.
@lubub55: lol
Not a Rhino. The Rhino. As in the Spider-Man villain.
This is worse then. The Rhino weighs around 1 ton area. Tranqs work by potency to weight. Spider man's Rhino has no healing factor either lmao.
Also, that's 616 Wolverine that was knocked out by the T-Rex tranqs. OMLogan is rom Earth-807128 and has a different history.
Same powers and ability. Same person really in many ways with his history of events before the wasteland.
Besides, who says Snake could even land a hit on Logan? He's fast enough to keep up with Miles Morales, who's a bullet-timer.
Solid Snake is insane fast by feats, easy bullet timer as well. He is super human. Genetically bred with perfect soldier genes to be better than any human. So why can he not tag Wolverine with one tranq?
Nope. Logan's history is different from OMLogan's.
Ex. Logan was born in the 1880s, Logan was born before the 1800s.
Besides, I'm pretty sure ten-ish tranquilizers are better than one. And don't forget, his attackers planned this out in advance. I'm pretty sure they did their research and used some pretty potent tranqs on him.
@warlockmage: @sirfizzwhizz: @lubub55:All 3 of you knock it off. Don't derail this thread.
I deleted one comment. I told you guys to knock off the rest of your conversation.
I deleted one comment. I told you guys to knock off the rest of your conversation.
fair enough
One of those was directed towards you, the others were quote chains that you happened to be a part of.
And yeah, I'm not continuing Jashro, just pointing this out.
@scott_summers52: Snake is fast enough to react to Vamp so what's the deal
Snake still wins. He dealt with Vamp and honestly Vamp is comparable to Wolverine. Add in the tranqs and that is good game.
It all depends on whether we think Snake's tranquilizers are enough to take down Logan. If they are he can win, but if they're not he can make the fight last by clearly being more skilled but doesn't have a way to reliably put Logan down.
@lubub55: depends on load out actually. Tranqs is crucial, but if we really want to argue gear Snake has used a HF Blade would wreck OML faster than the samurais that cut off Logans arm recently.
@sirfizzwhizz: When did Snake use a HF blade?
@lubub55: when he fought and beat Solidus Snake in the canonnonize Digital Graphic Novel that Kojima approved as official backstory to MGS4 game.
@sirfizzwhizz: I don't think that counts as standard gear, and if it did Snake never had access to it as an old man. I'm pretty sure he picked the sword up from Raiden.
@lubub55: first off I never said it was standard. I said gear he has used.
Second he had the sword and gave it to Raiden. When Raiden lost it Snake picked it up.again and used it. Snake had the weapon twice in the event.
@sirfizzwhizz: If it's not something Old Snake would be carrying with him, I don't think it really matters for this thread to be honest.
And I'm pretty sure he only brought along the sword to give to Raiden because he knew he knew how to handle a blade. That's why we never see him use it as gear himself besides from the fight with Solidus where he had to.
I would say Logan wins. They have similar stealth abilities with snake taking an edge. But Logan's senses would make it impossible for snake to sneak up on him stealth/octo camo or not. Plus Logan can kill snake with one strike whereas even if the tranqs work they don't work instantly, unless it's a headshot and I think Logan could block enough to land some stabs.
How is snake taking down Logan here? Tranqs? It'll take more than one and Logan is much much much more powerful and durable and all he needs is a swipe. Not to mention if oml is as skilled as regular Logan, he's a better fighter too.
If it's not something Old Snake would be carrying with him, I don't think it really matters for this thread to be honest.
Funny, I never said otherwise Lub. I simply said if we allow Snake to have access he has used before then he stomp Logan bad.
And I'm pretty sure he only brought along the sword to give to Raiden because he knew he knew how to handle a blade. That's why we never see him use it as gear himself besides from the fight with Solidus where he had to.
He gave it to Raiden because he stated he does not care for swords, though he had the skill to use them.
How is snake taking down Logan here? Tranqs? It'll take more than one and Logan is much much much more powerful and durable and all he needs is a swipe. Not to mention if oml is as skilled as regular Logan, he's a better fighter too.
OML is far from a better fighter. Regular Logan in his prime is better in stats, healing, and skill by feats. OML is more like a out of prime Logan.
I also see no reason for Snake to get tagged easy. He danced around Vamp in two fights without being cut. Same for a quick fight with Gray Fox who was using his stealth camo and sword at the time. Speed wise and skill wise kept from being cut by Solidus.
All the while dodging he can easy tag Logan many times with Tranqs as needed.
@sirfizzwhizz: I mean, if we're in agreement that it's not something he'll have on him here then I don't really see the point in discussing the impact the weapon would have. And I never doubted he has the skill to use them, what I'm saying is that it's not his equipment of choice for a fight.
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