Old Man Oliver Queen (CW) vs Malcolm Merlyn (CW)

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This is Old Man Oliver Queen as he appears in Legends of Tomorrow facing off against season 4 Malcolm Merlyn, prior to him losing his hand.

The fights take place in downtown Star City and they are to the death or incapacitation. Both are fighting all out, but in-character. They will fight as if they have never fought against each other before (no prior knowledge of the opponent's abilites, no mental hindrances or influences)

  1. Standard gear, start 20 yards apart
  2. Melee fight (both use their bows as melee weapons)

Who wins each round and why?

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Bitch Merlyn is never gonna win ever.

Hopefully LoT does him some justice. But I have no Faith. His character is ruined.

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@allstarsuperman: Merlyn should stick to one side lol, he keeps switching back anf forth.

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@peterparkerjr: Loved him. He was the best character in seasons 1 and 2.

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Bitch Merlyn is never gonna win ever.

Hopefully LoT does him some justice. But I have no Faith. His character is ruined.

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Merlyn both rounds. Even now they're almost equal, as an old man Oliver would lose.

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Ollie has already defeated Merlin twice.

Old Ollie has a metal arm which will make the fight easier for Ollie.

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Malcolm round 1, Ollie for round 2.

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S1-S3 Merlyn could pull this off just due to quickness and Old-Man Ollie's lack of feats. But S4 Merlyn gets humiliated.

Also, fully agree on everyone's consensus on Merlyn's recent treatment. His arch in Season 1, especially in relation to Tommy, was a masterpiece. S1 Merlyn and Tommy were probably the best part of the show. His appearances in S2 were great too. They helped develop Moira and Thea, along with making Merlyn more sympathetic. He had influence on plot and characters, while appearing scarcely enough to not overshadow Slade. He was probably Arrow's best handled character. Slade was awesome, but even his arch wasn't as good as Merlyn's. Even more than the Flashbacks or "Olicity", the thing that bothered me most about Season 4 was how they treated Merlyn. I just rewatched Season 1, and it was just depressing how much his character has diminished.

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Bitch Merlyn is never gonna win ever.

Hopefully LoT does him some justice. But I have no Faith. His character is ruined.

Super late reply, but did Legends do anything to improve your opinion of Merlyn's character?

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@nfactor1995: Yeah. Despite obviously losing, his fights against Sara and Damian were better showings than he had in season 4 of Arrow

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Merlyn both rounds

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Well, Grant was pitiful in the recent Season 8 episode. If he really cut Oliver's arm off in alternate timeline... I can only assume it was special circumstances.

Anyhow, if we're going off Old Oliver by his very limited showing, then I'd have to say Merlyn.

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@fetts said:

Well, Grant was pitiful in the recent Season 8 episode. If he really cut Oliver's arm off in alternate timeline... I can only assume it was special circumstances.

Anyhow, if we're going off Old Oliver by his very limited showing, then I'd have to say Merlyn.

Different year in a different timeline.

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@fetts said:

Well, Grant was pitiful in the recent Season 8 episode. If he really cut Oliver's arm off in alternate timeline... I can only assume it was special circumstances.

Anyhow, if we're going off Old Oliver by his very limited showing, then I'd have to say Merlyn.

Different year in a different timeline.

Yeah, that's fair.

Still, hard to imagine how Grant got that much more skilled. I doubt his father helped him.

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It’s been forever since I watched the future Legends episode. Are the actors the same?

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Merlyn.