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#1 Posted by TonyMartial (7953 posts) - - Show Bio
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As pictured. Okoye gets her spear but no energy blasts/shock function.

Takes place in a generic city

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#2 Posted by ANTHP2000 (23971 posts) - - Show Bio

Okoye.

Based on statement provided by the MU Visual Dictionary, she's supposedly an unrivaled master of Wakandan martial arts, which should put her on the same level with or above T'Challa, who I believe is a match for Cap. Coupled with her massive reach advantage and the fact that the vibranium spear os going to deal serious damage and take hits from a Super Soldier better than Steve can take her slashes/cuts/stabs, she has this in the bag IMO.

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#3 Posted by ProbablyASphere (488 posts) - - Show Bio

Steve can cave in her face in one punch. Having an awesome spear doesn't matter when nothing she can do could possibly stop Steve from just taking it away from her.

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#4 Posted by OriginalCaptain (4614 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap stomps.

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#5 Posted by buildhare (8515 posts) - - Show Bio

Assuming she was fast and skilled enough to land the first hit (she's not) Cap has great damage soak and being that close to someone who outstats you that much is hardly a good idea.

Mismatch.

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#6 Posted by RBT (26294 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap

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#7 Posted by Greysentinel365 (5624 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap easily. For all Okoyes hype she portrayed as no better than Widow who has consistently been ragdolled around by people on Caps level.

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#8 Edited by KingOfWakanda (2280 posts) - - Show Bio

This depends on who gets the first hit. It's a one shot either way.

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#9 Posted by LJayG (773 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap rips her apart like a log

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#10 Posted by Amcu (15457 posts) - - Show Bio

Steven.

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#11 Posted by RBT (26294 posts) - - Show Bio

This depends on who gets the first hit. It's a one shot either way.

She was ragdolled by Erik and got back up. Cap does win this, but I don't see him one-shotting someone like Okoye.

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#12 Posted by Richubs (3003 posts) - - Show Bio

@anthp2000: Cap would beat Widow who was doing better against Proxima compared to Okoye.

He'd win here.

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#13 Posted by KingOfWakanda (2280 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt: Fair enough. She does have Vibranium armor which helps but a couple head shots from Cap would do the trick.

I really do think this could go either way. Leaning Cap for a majority, but I could see Okoye beating him too as Cap is shieldless.

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#14 Posted by SexyBayonetta22 (149 posts) - - Show Bio

Okoye.

Based on statement provided by the MU Visual Dictionary, she's supposedly an unrivaled master of Wakandan martial arts, which should put her on the same level with or above T'Challa, who I believe is a match for Cap. Coupled with her massive reach advantage and the fact that the vibranium spear os going to deal serious damage and take hits from a Super Soldier better than Steve can take her slashes/cuts/stabs, she has this in the bag IMO.

Statements<<<<Feats. Cap is extremely skilled

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#15 Posted by ANTHP2000 (23971 posts) - - Show Bio

@richubs:

Widow wouldn't lose to an unarmed Cap if she had something as OP as a virbanium spear. We've seen how she fares in a deleted scene (which was cut strictly due to time restraints by word of the writers), shs completely outskilled Cap, got on his back twice, dodged his attempt and landed a clean neck strike. If she was willing to put him down with lethal gear instead of tasing him, she would've won. And that was while she was unarmed and Cap had his shield.

So no, Okoye not being better than Widow is not evidence at all that she loses this.

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#16 Posted by RBT (26294 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt: Fair enough. She does have Vibranium armor which helps but a couple head shots from Cap would do the trick.

I really do think this could go either way. Leaning Cap for a majority, but I could see Okoye beating him too as Cap is shieldless.

She definitely has a shot, no doubt, especially considering that she has a reach advantage and can more or less one shot Cap, but the skill gap might be too much. Cap is T'Challa's peer in skill and Okoye isn't really anywhere close.

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#17 Edited by Richubs (3003 posts) - - Show Bio

@anthp2000: Widow had her staff in her fight with Proxima.

Okoye had her spear.

Widow fared better than Okoye against Proxima.

Basically Okoye < Widow with her staff.

And I doubt Widow can beat Captain with her staff.

Captain is faster than Okoye, stronger than Okoye and is more athletic and agile.

A spear is large and not easy to weild so Cap can easily close the gap while she's swinging it or just snatch it from her and throw it away.

I don't see Okoye winning at all

And let's not compare a Captain vs Widow fight when we have seen how fast she was stomped by Winter Soldier.

Captain would hold back against Widow.

He wouldn't against Okoye.

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#18 Posted by ANTHP2000 (23971 posts) - - Show Bio

@richubs:

That's flawed logic. Widow wouldn't beat Cap with her staff because she can't put him down. That doesn't mean Okoye, someone who can, doesn't. It's ABC logic which is never good.

Are you suggesting Widow didn't hold back too? Because that's the exact teason she didn't draw lethal weapon on him. And she never fought Bucky 1 on 1 in hand to hand. If she had, I'd be very surprised if she didn't outmaneuver him and tag him before he could.

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#19 Edited by tparks (11807 posts) - - Show Bio

@richubs: Why wouldn’t he hold back against Okoye? He’s fought alongside her and Wakanda. He knows she’s not a bad person. He also knows she is a higher up from Wakanda. He isn’t going to smash her face in like she is an invading evil alien, he’s not going to drop all of his morals just because he doesn’t know her as well as he does Nat, and he wouldn’t do that to one of the leaders of a nation who has put themselves at huge risk to help him.

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#20 Posted by GateOfBabylon (3286 posts) - - Show Bio

It's a good fight but I do believe Cap's superior stats give him the win.

Only if he takes it seriously though, if he goes at her like he did with Batroc then he might lose.

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#21 Posted by skinnyjimmy (43 posts) - - Show Bio

I see okoye as equal skill level to batroc and cap absolutely demolished him when things got serious WITHOUT a shield. Look at his feats without a shield while the people he was fighting had weapons.

Cap has gone toe to toe with spider man in civil war (while he lost his shield for a couple moments), with his morals on AND came out on top. Spider man would demolish okoye and has a way better reach advantage then a spear.

Okoye took out a few henchman and would have died horribly at the hands of Proxima if it wasn’t for scarlet witch. Yeah she went toe to toe with killmonger but she got tossed around.

Cap took out an entire ship of terrorists minus 1 guy plus Batroc (with both a shield and without), fought through and escaped an elevator with top of the line hydra henchman (10 vs 1) who had baton tasers and magnetic handcuffs, was shot multiple times in the back by winter soldier and took a full right haymaker to the face from thanos and came out not hurt, only confused that everyone was dead. In context, that right haymaker should have killed him based on iron man taking the same kind of blow from thanos and his armour shattering.

Cap absolutely stomps on an epic level.

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#22 Posted by Widowbite123 (121 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap

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#23 Posted by Helloman (26736 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap wins.

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#24 Posted by ThunderPrince (6781 posts) - - Show Bio
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#25 Posted by Richubs (3003 posts) - - Show Bio

@tparks: Because Widow is a valued friend and someone Captain trusts a lot.

He didn't trust Fury while he trusted Widow in TWS.

Okoye is not someone he has even talked to. Just because he knows her won't stop him from going crazy on someone who is trying to kill him.

He knows the capabilites of Vibranium and isn't going to mes around.

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#26 Posted by The_Magister (13032 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap.

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#27 Edited by tparks (11807 posts) - - Show Bio

@richubs: There’s a far stretch between not being a trusted friend with someone and punching them with 10 tons of force without holding back. I don’t understand why anyone would think Okoye or Cap would try to kill the other. Cap isn’t going to brutally kill one of Wakanda’s most respected leaders who volunteered her and her fellow nation’s lives just to help protect one of Cap’s friends , and Okoye isn’t going to savagely kill the hero who helped save Earth three times, and who is highly respected by T’Challah.

That doesn’t mean they won’t fight to win, but their not going to instantly become evil brutal murderers either.

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#28 Posted by Richubs (3003 posts) - - Show Bio

@tparks: I never said he'll go for the kill but she'll get the Batroc treatment but he won't be messing around because she has Vibranium on her.

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#29 Posted by tparks (11807 posts) - - Show Bio

@richubs: He held back on Batroc, since Batroc still had a head.

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#30 Posted by Richubs (3003 posts) - - Show Bio

@tparks: I know but people are assuming Okoye is winning.

Captain will go crazy on her (not all out but overwhelm completely) if he gets the slightest hint he would lose or die if he holds back.

He could one shot Okoye where he'd KO her and he has every advantage there is aside from range which too he would close using his speed.

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#31 Edited by tparks (11807 posts) - - Show Bio

@richubs: I think that Cap losing his composure and going crazy in a fight would be out of character. He’s the one character in the MCU who should never do that. Star-Lord punching Thanos, Iron Man trying to kill Bucky for no reason, those were both bad, but if Cap lost his composure and went crazy on a character like Okoye, that would be really bad.

I don’t disagree Cap wins, but I also don’t think either of these characters are going to break character to try to kill each other.

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#32 Edited by MarvelandDCfan24 (6784 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap wins he competed with proxima in a spear contest while Okoye was fodderized he stomps

He also caught a spear throw from her so reacting to Okoye wont be a problem

Okoye isnt even bettet than natasha

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#33 Edited by Richubs (3003 posts) - - Show Bio

@tparks: I think I phrased myself badly.

Going crazy I guess implies he just goes all out.

What I am saying is that he'd absolutely overwhelm Okoye.

Evme his holding back punches would hurt her badly and would wear her down badly.

He would not let her get a single shot and hit hard enough to make her lose her composure.

And he doesn't even have to try while punching to do that.

And it'd be in character for him if he realizes that he could get one shot by her spear.

Disarming her would be easy for him too given how difficult it is to move around with the spear and given how fast he is.

Basically I don't see her winning unless Captain completely gives up. The only way she can kill him or put him down is if she hits him with the spear's pointed end and that isn't happening.

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#34 Posted by geekryan (3458 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap wins but Okoye makes him work for it

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#36 Edited by Alavanka (1977 posts) - - Show Bio

Steve absolutely stomps. This is an objectively better display of skill than what T'Challa showed against M'Baku, against an opponent who is objectively stronger stat-wise and skillwise.

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The timing and display of physical strength in this is ridiculous, and no he's not using his shield for these.

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#37 Posted by jashro44 (51888 posts) - - Show Bio

I see Steve grabbing the shield and disarming Okoye.

Assuming she was fast and skilled enough to land the first hit (she's not) Cap has great damage soak and being that close to someone who outstats you that much is hardly a good idea.

Mismatch.

He does but a vibranium spear would penetrate deep. Caps never been gored through like that.

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#38 Posted by katanalauncher (3499 posts) - - Show Bio

Only way for Okoye to win is unarmed meant taking away Cap's arms.

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#39 Posted by buildhare (8515 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44:

Caps never been gored through like that.

No clean through but I doubt Oyoke would do that either. Taking all the stabs/bullets in TWS is enough to convince me he could take a hit and not be down and out, which is what would need to happen for Oyoke to not get stomped.

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#40 Posted by o0Deadman0o (440 posts) - - Show Bio

What's to stop cap from swinging her around by her spear?

I'm sure he's got the strength to do it and the ability and athleticism to dodge spear strikes and grab it.

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#41 Posted by Greysentinel365 (5624 posts) - - Show Bio

@o0deadman0o: Even a fodder Casino guard grabbed one of her spear lunges.

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#42 Posted by o0Deadman0o (440 posts) - - Show Bio
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#43 Posted by jayc1324 (26307 posts) - - Show Bio

Dora Miljae stay overrated. Cap stomps. He will take her spear from her.

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#44 Posted by Subline (5208 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap.

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#45 Posted by DrPepperMan (6145 posts) - - Show Bio

Steve was strong enough to throw a motorcycle into a Jeep and lift a steel beam while fatigued. It would be a street level Hela vs Thor, but without the comeback. Steve wins.

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#46 Posted by unseenforce01 (22 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap due to his speed advantage over Okoye

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#47 Posted by Richubs (3003 posts) - - Show Bio

@anthp2000: Sorry I never saw your reply before.

I normally don't like ABC logic but I think it works here because Proxima is a character comparable to Captain.

She's of comparable strength and skill. Her durability might be slightly more but that'd be it.

Okoye was unable to kill Proxima when she Had Widow as a distraction.

In fact she did dumb things. For eg. When Widow was fighting with Proxima she's could've easily stabbed her from the back nae the fight would be over. But she chose to run around her and make it a 2v1.

And using the spear is not very easy given how big it is ka dtje only way she can put captain down with it is of she joys him with the pointed end. Any other hit isn't hurting captain at all.

A random thug in the casino was able to grab her spear.

Captain will do it much easily and unarm her.

I don't see her winning

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#48 Posted by ANTHP2000 (23971 posts) - - Show Bio

@richubs:

Captain is far from comparable to Midnight, she's better than him in every way. Again, I disagree with your assessments.

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#49 Posted by Laurus (1438 posts) - - Show Bio

Cap and it's not close.

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#50 Posted by Richubs (3003 posts) - - Show Bio

@anthp2000: She was unable to outskill Wanda in close quarters combat.

She was more durable I think.

Her strength was not exactly more given she was jumping on Natasha when she was attacking Glaive and yet Captain stopped her.

She doesn't really have any strength feats comparable to him.

Or any skill feats as good.