Odin+Zeus Vs Surtur
" how would surtur do against mephisto? "Depends on where the battle takes place.
Odin alone is NOT enough to defeat Surtur.
I reapeat, Odin alone is NOT enough to defeat Surtur.
EVERYTIME they fought, Odin ALWAYS had outside help against Surtur. Always, whether it was from his brothers or sons........
EVERYTIME they fought one on one, ODIN GETS TRASHED by Surtur.
I KNOW Odin is strong, strong enough to kick Thanos around like a soccer ball when they fought, lol.........
But if you say Odin can beat Surtur one on one, your insane........... haha..
Odin had to FUNCTIONALLY KILL HIMSELF TWICE (suicide) to just bannish Surtur, even when Thor and all those Norse Gods are helping Odin.
Surtur > Odin, that's a fact....
I don't know too much about Zeus, but if Surtur was able to hold his own against Odin, Thor, AND Loki at the same time............
Yea lol...... I agree with you that he loses
All I'm trying to say though is that Surtur can put up a fight.
But Surtur only loses if Zeus > thor + loki
" Yea lol...... I agree with you that he loses All I'm trying to say though is that Surtur can put up a fight. But Surtur only loses if Zeus > thor + loki "Zeus is equal to Odin who is equal to Surtur. Zeus/Odin will curbstomp Thor and Loki with one shot.
"How would Zeu's lightning bolts do against Odin's Odinforce??? And Zeus wasn't really that impressive.......... he got his ass handed to him by Amtso-Mikaboshi, and was killed by Amatsu-Mikaboshi as well. "
Lets clear up a few points.
Zeus does not simply throw around lightning bolts.
Zeus has vast energy creation and manipulation powers that appear to mystical in origin. Although Lightning has become his trademark, he can effectively generate any type of energy.
His powers also extend to matter manipulation, object enchantment, teleportation, dimensional travel (he moved the entire Olympian army once in 1 go), augmentation of his strength and durability etc.
Marvel have stated on more than 1 occasion that of the Earthly deities, Zeus was the only one to rival Odin in power.
Zeus's baseline abilities are higher than Odins. He is rated at 90 tonnes on the Marvel strength scale, effectively has unlimited endurance and is even more durable than Thor.
Now add in his inherent shapeshifting abilities and his limited precognitive abilities.
And there is at one occasion I can remember when Odin, Thor and Loki were fighting Surtur in Asgard and despite Thor and Loki acting as distractions, it was Odin who after growing to Surtur's size, plunging Surtur and himself i to arift that sealed up after them - so effectively Odin stalemated Surtur.
Marvel stated the following (in the OHOTMU)
"Surturs overall power rivals that of Odin, although Surtur cannot employ his power in all of the same ways that Odin does his"
I do however think that Surtur has greater endurance and gross expenditure of the Odin power (in this case to equal Surtur) would weaken Odin.
I think it's safe to say that at their respective peaks Odin and Surtur are equal but Odin will tire more quickly.
" @chunjacktao said:zeus him self can curbstomp thor and loki" Yea lol...... I agree with you that he loses All I'm trying to say though is that Surtur can put up a fight. But Surtur only loses if Zeus > thor + loki "Zeus is equal to Odin who is equal to Surtur. Zeus/Odin will curbstomp Thor and Loki with one shot. "
" @czarny_samael said:This is exactly what I said: "Zeus/Odin" means Zeus or Odin." @chunjacktao said:zeus him self can curbstomp thor and loki "" Yea lol...... I agree with you that he loses All I'm trying to say though is that Surtur can put up a fight. But Surtur only loses if Zeus > thor + loki "Zeus is equal to Odin who is equal to Surtur. Zeus/Odin will curbstomp Thor and Loki with one shot. "
@thordinson said:
Odin can and I'm pretty sure has already defeated Surtur. Adding Zeus is overkill.
Surtur has killed Odin as well.
@justiceleagueno: There was context behind that. They both fell into a crevice and were presumed dead in Simonsons run.
@thordinson said:
@justiceleagueno: There was context behind that. They both fell into a crevice and were presumed dead in Simonsons run.
Surtur was not even intimidated of Thor, despite having Odin's power in addition to his own. He even wanted to fight him
Explain that.
@thordinson said:
Odin can and I'm pretty sure has already defeated Surtur. Adding Zeus is overkill.
@justiceleagueno: If you're talking about when Odin and Thor fought Set and Surtur respectively Thor also had a portion of the OF.
@darth_nimrod said:
Odin and Zeus.
@darth_nimrod said:
Odin and Zeus.
Duo still wins even if Surtur has the Twilight Sword. It only took the help of Thor and Loki to help Odin in the fight against him with it and by intent Zeus is about equal to Odin.
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