Odin Force Thor vs Shaman Nate Grey vs Classic Doctor Strange

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It's Odin Force Thor (Classic Thor feats included) vs Shaman Nate Grey (full potential) vs Classic Doctor Strange (all artifacts allowed)

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Classic Doctor Strange stomps.

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lol no one is stomping

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I don't think anyone is capable of stomping the other in this fight.

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@newworldorder: @supermanwithatan01:

Classic Strange fought to a standstill with Agamotto, broke out of Living Tribunal's restrains, and my favourite, owned Pre-Retcon Beyonder.

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@supermanwithatan01:

Alright, what is preventing him from stopping time and then doing whatever he wants to Nate and Thor?

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@supermanwithatan01:

Alright, what is preventing him from stopping time and then doing whatever he wants to Nate and Thor?

The Odin Force should protect Thor from time manipulation as it can give its user manipulation over time and space.

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@bladeoffury: Nate can enter the time stream at will, actually more casually than Strange. Odinforce protects Thor from time effects. They can all pull victories against one another.

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@bladeoffury said:

@supermanwithatan01:

Alright, what is preventing him from stopping time and then doing whatever he wants to Nate and Thor?

The Odin Force should protect Thor from time manipulation as it can give its user manipulation over time and space.

Can is the key word. The full potential of the Odinforce can be reached depending on the user. Thor has never shown such ability IIRC, and we go by feats, not statements. There is nothing to suggest that Thor can manipulate time, since he is not as experienced with the OF as his father.

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#13  Edited By NewWorldOrder

@bladeoffury said:
@newworldorder said:
@bladeoffury said:

@supermanwithatan01:

Alright, what is preventing him from stopping time and then doing whatever he wants to Nate and Thor?

The Odin Force should protect Thor from time manipulation as it can give its user manipulation over time and space.

Can is the key word. The full potential of the Odinforce can be reached depending on the user. Thor has never shown such ability IIRC, and we go by feats, not statements. There is nothing to suggest that Thor can manipulate time, since he is not as experienced with the OF as his father.

Thor actually had time manipulation as a standard power from Mjolnir. He used it around 2-3 times before but gave the power up when Immortus tricked him to releasing the stored time manipulation in Mjolnir out.

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Here is classic Thor using it when he had the ability.

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King Thor from Reigning and Dissasembled used time manipulation as well and he was just Thor who had Odin force and more experience.

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Then there is Odin who has used time manipulation on an occasion or two, so I think it's pretty likely time manipulation is within Thor's capability.

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#14  Edited By cosmic_reign

Nate Grey at the height of his power takes this handedly via psych-rape!!

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Man this is between STRANGE AND THOR.. Nate powerful as he is, isn't greater then Odin force or the eye or spell defense of strange

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Good stuff!

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Nate Grey.

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#19  Edited By hutchy1345

Would full potential nate grey not win this?

Full potential nate grey would be white phoenix surely as he clearly has a natural connection to the phoenix force

If not, then doctor strange wins

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#21 JediXMan  Moderator

@supermanwithatan01:

Alright, what is preventing him from stopping time and then doing whatever he wants to Nate and Thor?

Just want to point out that Nate can do the same if he wants.

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Stopping time won't work on Nate. He would just do to Strange what Ares did to him (IE: break out of the time lock).

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@jedixman: lol me either but I'm really getting into Nate Grey

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@jedixman: is it true he's never reached his full potential? And he's the most powerful telepath/telekinetic in the universe?

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Classic Doctor Strange is the same as modern Doctor Strange.

No difference.

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Interesting fight. Nate has some serious chops man.

I'd like to see more arguments for him before saying anything else.

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#29 JediXMan  Moderator

@jedixman: is it true he's never reached his full potential? And he's the most powerful telepath/telekinetic in the universe?

He's not the most powerful mutant. That goes to Jean Grey, Franklin Richards, possibly Legion, and possibly the Marquis of Death. Nate came close to full potential; it's unfortunate that he got depowered. Reading his older issues and seeing how far he came was very satisfying, although he was powerful in the early days, too (his unrefined, unrestrained self stomped Xavier while Xavier had Cerebro).

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@jedixman: Jean is more powerful than Nate?

Nate has comparable power to the Phoenix; Jean Grey is the Phoenix. White Phoenix, especially, is far beyond anything Nate could ever dream of. She is multiversal.

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@jedixman: would you say Legion is more powerful than her?

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@jedixman: wow that's somewhat surprising. Legion is an absolute beast and I'm getting into him as well

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#38  Edited By cosmic_reign

@firsthunter said:
@cosmic_reign said:

Nate Grey at the height of his power takes this handedly via psych-rape!!

Flagged. Don't use that word.

Lol

You playin mod now??

If u don't like my post, simply bypass it!!

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#40  Edited By cosmic_reign

@cosmic_reign said:
@firsthunter said:
@cosmic_reign said:

Nate Grey at the height of his power takes this handedly via psych-rape!!

Flagged. Don't use that word.

Lol

You playin mod now??

If u don't like my post, simply bypass it!!

Not really. Just it's against the rules.

if you don't like being flagged don't make posts that violate the rules.

Well then, let the mods be mods...

...and it bothers me NOT that someone so infinitesimal like YOURSELF flags my post. Come up with a debate regarding the thread then perhaps we can debate...Otherwise YOU can kick rocks!!

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Strange.

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Classic Strange.

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@asgardianbrony: idk if this helps but check it out

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/2vgbtq/respect_nate_grey_xman/

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