@CerberusPrime3k said:
@SlimJ87D: Kamui isn't just sending things to the dimension at long range
It's also how Obito sends parts of his body to his dimension it was explained Kakashi in the recent chapters thats why when Kakashi used Kamui on Naruto's mini bijuu bomb it went to the same dimension obito sent that body part and BOOM!!
In the Scans above I sent you when Obito activated the Full power of Kamui the Vaccum widened and he started to shoot things out of his Dimension at a faster rate
Thats why I asked how would he not have the experience to use Kamui at long range when he has used it longer than Kakashi has
I understand all that. But as of right now in the Naruto community, Obito and Kakashi's use of the technique are different. I'm pointing out to you that he has NEVER used it to send an object from far away and zapped it out of existence so he has no experience whatsoever with the technique.
And if indeed the OP meant to give him both his MS techniques, it took years for Kakashi to train the left eye Kamui to do what it does. You can't just stare at the object and hope the whole thing disappears. You have to actually focus on the object mentally and time it right while the object is moving around. It took Kakashi a lot of time to master the eye, it didn't just happen upon learning about the technique.
Next is using the eye and staying intangible. From what we know he can't send an object away in close range and remain intangible, so what evidence is there that he has the ability to remain intangible and use long range kamui? There is no evidence. You forget that Sasuke also has a technique he can use that burns objects with the look of it. So if Obito tries and focus his long range kamui that he has never used before what is stopping sasuke from using his EMS with Amaterasu just by looking at Obito? Then you have Pain and his shinra tensi technique also that works very quickly.
@CerberusPrime3k said:
Obito wins with long range Kamui<----from his left eye....he'll just look at either Yahiko's or Sasuke's head and warp it to his pocket dimension
Sounds a bit out of character however Kakashi used kamui to dismember Diedara and as shown Obito/Tobi is more ruthless then Kakashi and now since he has his left eye
He doesn't have to rely on getting in close to warp people into his dimension like he used to with his right eye.
So again, I will show you what's wrong with your argument.
1. Obito has no experience with Kamui. Kakashi proved that it takes a lot of time to harness.
"At first Kakashi's aim and control over the size of the barrier was imperfect. Over time his aim and control improved, as he was able to accurately warp away small and fast moving objects, such as a nail. Kakashi is even able to consecutively warp away two fast-moving arrows." So assuming that he is on the level of Kakashi at the get go is not a fact.
2. There is no evidence that Obito can use intangibility and transport objects at the same time. There's actually more evidence that he cannot.
"In Tobi's case, the primary weakness of this technique is that both aspects cannot be used concurrently, as he must become and remain tangible in order to transport himself or others, providing a small opportunity in which he is unable to pass through objects and thus, is vulnerable to injury. This deficiency means that he must also materialise when ejecting stored items as well, presenting the same vulnerability. According to Konan, Tobi can only maintain his intangibility for approximately five consecutive minutes at a time, after which he is presumably rendered completely solid for a duration. She also reveals that the time it takes him to absorb something is proportional to its mass, and that it takes longer to absorb himself than another person or object.
You forget that Sasuke also has an eye technique that burns objects with site. So we have two users that can attack each other with site. Sasuke with his Amaterasu and Obito with Kamui that he has never used before. I know that without the experience, so far Sasuke has the advantage because he just needs to look at what he wants to burn and it burns while the Kamui left eye inexperienced Obito has to focus on an object and if it's moving it just makes it that more difficult. With that inexperience he's not going to easily Kamui them away.
3. Building off of 2, you have Pain shinra tensei the heck out of Obito as well, so while he is trying to prepare his Kamui left eye he probably won't be intangible and be suspected to attacks.
Kamui is a great technique for him to use, but it's not his trump card. These are the counter arguments I can come up with.
As for me on the fight, I don't know which team would win as I need to think it over more critically and speculate out different scenarios for how each team can win.
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