Obi-Wan Kenobi vs. Psylock

This seems like an interesting idea in concept, please let me know if it's lop-sided. Fighting in New York of all places.

uh I watched sith on spike lastnight so I say Obi-wan WINS! I still dont see how he beat anakin I mean anakin was so much stronger.

anyway I think Kenobi is too powerful a jedi to lose this fight.

Psylock doesn't need to fight Obi-Wan physically; her mental powers are more than strong enough to incapacitate him without lifting a finger. If it came to hand-to-hand Obi-Wan would have the advantage with his TK and lightsaber, but Psylock is a good enough combatant to hold her own, especially with the help of her psi powers.

Hmmm but what about the mental powers of the jedi are they not at least able to defend?

I am just asking I dont know much about what jedi can do outside the movies.

Alexander Anderson says:

"Psylock doesn't need to fight Obi-Wan physically; her mental powers are more than strong enough to incapacitate him without lifting a finger. If it came to hand-to-hand Obi-Wan would have the advantage with his TK and lightsaber, but Psylock is a good enough combatant to hold her own, especially with the help of her psi powers."

Great Point. Psylocke could combat Obi Wan with her mental powers to get the victory.

speedlgt says:

"Hmmm but what about the mental powers of the jedi are they not at least able to defend? I am just asking I dont know much about what jedi can do outside the movies."

Luke Skywalker had some massive jedi powers outside of the films in the books of the extended universe of Star Wars. I am not sure Obi Wan has the jedi skill that is need to combat Psylocke.

King Saturn says:

"speedlgt says:

"Hmmm but what about the mental powers of the jedi are they not at least able to defend? I am just asking I dont know much about what jedi can do outside the movies."

Luke Skywalker had some massive jedi powers outside of the films in the books of the extended universe of Star Wars. I am not sure Obi Wan has the jedi skill that is need to combat Psylocke. "

I think he does, he is pretty balanced.

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isnt the only mental power that psylocke currently has is telekenisis?

pixelized says:

"isnt the only mental power that psylocke currently has is telekenisis?"

Not Sure. But if that is true. Obi Wan has the win here. Cause if it came down to hand to hand combat. Obi Wan has the lightsaber and the TK that would be enough to get the win.

pixelized says:

"isnt the only mental power that psylocke currently has is telekenisis?"

That's the version we're using? I assumed classic for some reason. Regardless, that eliminates any advantage Obi-Wan's moderate TK might have given him.

TK Katana beats light-saber in my opinion, and her TK would protect her from the saber anyway. Obi-Wan gets crushed, or incapacitated by Betsy's superior TK abilities.

speedlgt says:

"uh I watched sith on spike lastnight so I say Obi-wan WINS! I still dont see how he beat anakin I mean anakin was so much stronger. anyway I think Kenobi is too powerful a jedi to lose this fight."

Anakin got what he deserved. You underestimate Obi-wan, he could give a fight to mostly any top jedi or sith.

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Korg says:

"TK Katana beats light-saber in my opinion, and her TK would protect her from the saber anyway. Obi-Wan gets crushed, or incapacitated by Betsy's superior TK abilities."

I don't think TK katana beats lightsaber, doesn't she needs to use her strenght to have it materialized? if so, and if the battle takes long, she could get tired and the katana would disappear.

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Unlikely, as she can also use her TK to enhance her speed, strength and agility. I don't think the fight would go on long enough for her to tire, let alone be so exhausted she couldn't manifest a blade. Her TK can lift multiple tons. She could rip the light-saber right out of his hand at the word go. Also, she can fly. Obi-Wan has no chance.

I believe Psylocke owning this one. Both from close and from a distance type of fight. She can not be controlled by a Jedi because she is immune to a telepathic attack. She can create tk shields that can distrupt the light saber (her tk can affect molecular bonds) and break the bones of Obi wan Kanobi.

Now if this is Yoda, its a different story.

I don't think we have seen an upper limit in Obi-Wan's TK ability, who's to say that he couldn't lift several tons if he needed to? Both Kenobi and Betsy use their TK to boost their abilities when they fight, not just Betsy, and there are more applications of the force then simply TK and TP.

@Alexander: Unless stated otherwise, I always use characters in their current forms (except for people like Obi-Wan and Cap, who are dead, I think we'll use Obi-Wan in his prime, just to be fair.)

Since this is the 1000000th Psylocke vs. thread i thought i should point out her name is spelled Psylocke.

Thank you fesak.

Super-Buster says:

"I don't think we have seen an upper limit in Obi-Wan's TK ability, who's to say that he couldn't lift several tons if he needed to? Both Kenobi and Betsy use their TK to boost their abilities when they fight, not just Betsy, and there are more applications of the force then simply TK and TP. @Alexander: Unless stated otherwise, I always use characters in their current forms (except for people like Obi-Wan and Cap, who are dead, I think we'll use Obi-Wan in his prime, just to be fair.)"

Apparition says:

"what's with all the jedi love?"

lol

what's with all the jedi love?

Apparition says:

"what's with all the jedi love?"

what are you referring to?

White Mage says:

"Screw that, I think her Ninja skills could also be a deciding factor. Obi's good and all, but Betsy is just advanced. Also, I haven't seen enough proof of Obi's tk skills to determine that he is better than or equal to, Betsy."

What has Betsy done with her TK that you don't think Obi-Wan could accomplish with his? Betsy's ninja skills aren't anything spectacular, and even if they were, Obi is just as good, if not better with his light-saber skills. That plus using the Force to anticipate Psylocke's attacks could swing the battle in his favor.

Super-Buster says:

"Apparition says:

"what's with all the jedi love?"

what are you referring to? White Mage says:

"Screw that, I think her Ninja skills could also be a deciding factor. Obi's good and all, but Betsy is just advanced. Also, I haven't seen enough proof of Obi's tk skills to determine that he is better than or equal to, Betsy."

What has Betsy done with her TK that you don't think Obi-Wan could accomplish with his? Betsy's ninja skills aren't anything spectacular, and even if they were, Obi is just as good, if not better with his light-saber skills. That plus using the Force to anticipate Psylock*e*'s attacks could swing the battle in his favor. "

Super-Buster says:

"Apparition says:

"what's with all the jedi love?"

what are you referring to?"

1 - all the jedi battles

2 - all the respect the jedi and sith are getting

White Mage says:

"Enhancing her fighting skills to superhuman levels with her tk."

That's a basic application of the force for all Jedi.

Apparition says:

"1 - all the jedi battles2 - all the respect the jedi and sith are getting"

I apologize if they're getting annoying, I just saw a lot of potential in Star Wars characters as far as battles that haven't been done yet. And as far as I have seen, the people I'm putting the Jedi up against are getting just as much respect.

Super-Buster says:

"White Mage says:

"Enhancing her fighting skills to superhuman levels with her tk."

That's a basic application of the force for all Jedi. Apparition says:

"1 - all the jedi battles 2 - all the respect the jedi and sith are getting"

I apologize if they're getting annoying, I just saw a lot of potential in Star Wars characters as far as battles that haven't been done yet. And as far as I have seen, the people I'm putting the Jedi up against are getting just as much respect."

no no, its fine i was just saying

Super-Buster says:

"White Mage says:

"Enhancing her fighting skills to superhuman levels with her tk."

That's a basic application of the force for all Jedi. Apparition says:

"1 - all the jedi battles 2 - all the respect the jedi and sith are getting"

I apologize if they're getting annoying, I just saw a lot of potential in Star Wars characters as far as battles that haven't been done yet. And as far as I have seen, the people I'm putting the Jedi up against are getting just as much respect."

White Mage says:

"Super-Buster says:

"White Mage says:

"Enhancing her fighting skills to superhuman levels with her tk."

That's a basic application of the force for all Jedi. Apparition says:

"1 - all the jedi battles 2 - all the respect the jedi and sith are getting"

I apologize if they're getting annoying, I just saw a lot of potential in Star Wars characters as far as battles that haven't been done yet. And as far as I have seen, the people I'm putting the Jedi up against are getting just as much respect."

Oh yeah, Shaak Ti. LOL2. Psylocke unleashed a powerful telekinetic assault that Rachel couldn't match. And was impervious to her mental probes. Psylockes Katana can also cut psychic bonds, and cut through armor affecting the person directly."

Man, its been so long since I've seen the movies, but I think Obi performed a similar feat against a a bunch of droids, I think he prefers to use his light-saber though. Also, what issue is this, Betsy over-powering Rachel seems a little much, isn't Rachel very powerful?

I'm not doubting that her blade could do sufficient damage if it connected, but Obi's light-saber would do just as much damage.

Uncanny X-Men 455. She unleashed a telekenetic assault on the X-Men shortly after her ressurrection.

I haven't read that, guess I'll take your word for it.

Super-Buster says:

"I haven't read that, guess I'll take your word for it."

Its still Psylocke owning this fight.

She doesn't even need to get close to Obi-Wan to destroy him. And she can create TK shields from his attacks. Jedi may have some probability manipulation just like Domino's mutant ability but Psylocke can not be affected by that.

Among the Jedi it can only be Yoda or Anakin who may have the upper hand with Psylocke only because they use the force differently.

i'm leaning towards psylock by all these opinions

Super-Buster says:

"Zenma says

"i'm leaning towards psylock by all these opinions"

Are you so easily swayed?"

well i don't know anything about psylock nor do i wish to waste my time on it

IcePrince_X says:

"Its still Psylocke owning this fight.She doesn't even need to get close to Obi-Wan to destroy him. And she can create TK shields from his attacks. Jedi may have some probability manipulation just like Domino's mutant ability but Psylocke can not be affected by that.Among the Jedi it can only be Yoda or Anakin who may have the upper hand with Psylocke only because they use the force differently."

Obi-Wan can do anything Betsy can do and more, his powers let him anticipate the attacks of his enemies, affect the minds of others, heal and more. Obi beat Anakin, so why don't you think he could beat Betsy?

Zenma says

"i'm leaning towards psylock by all these opinions"

Are you so easily swayed?

Zenma says:

"Super-Buster says:

"Zenma says

"i'm leaning towards psylock by all these opinions"

Are you so easily swayed?"

well i don't know anything about psylock nor do i wish to waste my time on it"

Ok, fair enough, I won't force you.

Super-Buster says:

"IcePrince_X says:

"Its still Psylocke owning this fight.She doesn't even need to get close to Obi-Wan to destroy him. And she can create TK shields from his attacks. Jedi may have some probability manipulation just like Domino's mutant ability but Psylocke can not be affected by that.Among the Jedi it can only be Yoda or Anakin who may have the upper hand with Psylocke only because they use the force differently."

Obi-Wan can do anything Betsy can do and more, his powers let him anticipate the attacks of his enemies, affect the minds of others, heal and more. Obi beat Anakin, so why don't you think he could beat Betsy?

Zenma says

"i'm leaning towards psylock by all these opinions"

Are you so easily swayed?"

Can Obi-Wan destroy in a molecular level from a great distance? Can he shatter mountain in a thought? Can he survive reality warping?

Psylocke could and more. Any psionic attack or reality manipulation can not affect Psylocke unless its beyond her powers. May be in a sword fight Obi-Wan may have an edge but it will not shock me if Psylocke will use TK shield herself as well as throw Obi-Wan to kingdom come.

Also put in mind, ninja's are also trained to anticipate their enemies moves.

I can argue the rest of your post, but if Betsy can shatter mountains with a thought then this is not the fight I thought it was.

Psy wins.

Psy ALWAYS wins. Opponents do not matter.

Psy v.s. Obi? Blood on aisle two!

Psy v.s. Hulk? Who doesn't wanna make who angry now, bitch?

Psy v.s. Thanos? Wow! I never thought she could fit the entire Infinity Gauntlet all the way up his ass!

Psy v.s. Ditka? And Bears fans everywhere are mourning the loss...

It's just that simple, folks.

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Psylocke would totally win just because she could rip obi-wan apart. I like obi-wan but no way would he ever win.

When has Psylocke ever been known to rip people apart with her TK? If that's the case, then Obi can use his to crush Betsy's head as well.

DOUBLE KILL!

The problem here, according to what I read about the Jedi and the Force is the capacity of Obi Wan to carry such deed and act.

His Jedi training teaches him the constraint use of the Force and not all Jedi can use the way other Jedi makes use of the Force. Also, I never read were Obi-Wan's abilities lies in the use of the Force if he is more into the Core (neutral) or what part of the Light he makes use. There are several ways he can make use of it but which is which because Psylocke also carries those abilities and some.

Psylocke's advantage lies on her training and an all-out use of her powers without constraint to earn her the upper hand. As to your statement if she does rip people apart or plainly kill...she does with out hesitation. She has done this in the X-Men and if she was able to during that time, even Sabertooth just to save Boomboom (Meltdown), unfortunately her TP no longer works with Sabertooth. But now, with her TK powers what makes you think she won't use it the way she does it just to get the upper hand.

Unless some one can show me a comicbook showing the fullest potential of Obi-Wan can I have a different view on who is going to win on this because I am limited only to what I read on a StarWars book on the concept of the Force, Jedi Training and watched in the movies from Episode 1 to Episode 6. Obi-Wan is not at the level of Anakin or Yoda.

By the way, Psylocke can also render herself invisible now.

What is with all the Star Wars characters?

Lord Doom says:

"What is with all the Star Wars characters?"

They are a world of their own characters. Well established and taught of by their creators that it was able to have a life of its own beyond its creators' realm.

I do love Starwars, my favorite character though are the ewoks.

@IcePrince: Your post was very hard to read, but if I understand you correctly, you're saying that because of the restraint that Jedi use during battle, Betsy will have the upper hand, because she doesn't constrain herself? From my knowledge, Psylocke is/was an X-Man, a super-hero, and they only kill when necessary, but that is also the case of Obi-Wan and the Jedi. I don't see constraint becoming a problem.

Obi-Wan is at least at the same level as Anakin (Obi won in their duel on Mustafar) and Yoda is debatable.

Also, it doesn't matter if Psylocke can turn invisible, Jedi Masters like Obi-Wan use the Force to guide their actions.

I could've sworn that Psylocke can still shatter not only telekenisis, but also people's minds with her Katana. She can destroy psychic links.

Doesn't really matter since a lightsaber will be just as deadly.

Super-Buster says:

"Doesn't really matter since a lightsaber will be just as deadly."