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#1  Edited By Super-Buster

This seems like an interesting idea in concept, please let me know if it's lop-sided. Fighting in New York of all places.

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#2  Edited By speedlgt

uh I watched sith on spike lastnight so I say Obi-wan WINS! I still dont see how he beat anakin I mean anakin was so much stronger.

anyway I think Kenobi is too powerful a jedi to lose this fight.

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Psylock doesn't need to fight Obi-Wan physically; her mental powers are more than strong enough to incapacitate him without lifting a finger. If it came to hand-to-hand Obi-Wan would have the advantage with his TK and lightsaber, but Psylock is a good enough combatant to hold her own, especially with the help of her psi powers.

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#4  Edited By speedlgt

Hmmm but what about the mental powers of the jedi are they not at least able to defend?

I am just asking I dont know much about what jedi can do outside the movies.

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#5  Edited By King Saturn

Alexander Anderson says:

"Psylock doesn't need to fight Obi-Wan physically; her mental powers are more than strong enough to incapacitate him without lifting a finger. If it came to hand-to-hand Obi-Wan would have the advantage with his TK and lightsaber, but Psylock is a good enough combatant to hold her own, especially with the help of her psi powers."

Great Point. Psylocke could combat Obi Wan with her mental powers to get the victory.

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#6  Edited By King Saturn

speedlgt says:

"Hmmm but what about the mental powers of the jedi are they not at least able to defend? I am just asking I dont know much about what jedi can do outside the movies."

Luke Skywalker had some massive jedi powers outside of the films in the books of the extended universe of Star Wars. I am not sure Obi Wan has the jedi skill that is need to combat Psylocke.

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#7  Edited By Unbelonger

King Saturn says:

"speedlgt says:
"Hmmm but what about the mental powers of the jedi are they not at least able to defend? I am just asking I dont know much about what jedi can do outside the movies."
Luke Skywalker had some massive jedi powers outside of the films in the books of the extended universe of Star Wars. I am not sure Obi Wan has the jedi skill that is need to combat Psylocke. "

I think he does, he is pretty balanced.

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#8  Edited By pixelized

isnt the only mental power that psylocke currently has is telekenisis?

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pixelized says:

"isnt the only mental power that psylocke currently has is telekenisis?"

Not Sure. But if that is true. Obi Wan has the win here. Cause if it came down to hand to hand combat. Obi Wan has the lightsaber and the TK that would be enough to get the win.

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pixelized says:

"isnt the only mental power that psylocke currently has is telekenisis?"

That's the version we're using? I assumed classic for some reason. Regardless, that eliminates any advantage Obi-Wan's moderate TK might have given him.

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#11  Edited By Korg

TK Katana beats light-saber in my opinion, and her TK would protect her from the saber anyway. Obi-Wan gets crushed, or incapacitated by Betsy's superior TK abilities.

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#12  Edited By Unbelonger

speedlgt says:

"uh I watched sith on spike lastnight so I say Obi-wan WINS! I still dont see how he beat anakin I mean anakin was so much stronger. anyway I think Kenobi is too powerful a jedi to lose this fight."

Anakin got what he deserved. You underestimate Obi-wan, he could give a fight to mostly any top jedi or sith.

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#13  Edited By Unbelonger

Korg says:

"TK Katana beats light-saber in my opinion, and her TK would protect her from the saber anyway. Obi-Wan gets crushed, or incapacitated by Betsy's superior TK abilities."

I don't think TK katana beats lightsaber, doesn't she needs to use her strenght to have it materialized? if so, and if the battle takes long, she could get tired and the katana would disappear.

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#14  Edited By Korg

Unlikely, as she can also use her TK to enhance her speed, strength and agility. I don't think the fight would go on long enough for her to tire, let alone be so exhausted she couldn't manifest a blade. Her TK can lift multiple tons. She could rip the light-saber right out of his hand at the word go. Also, she can fly. Obi-Wan has no chance.

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#15  Edited By IcePrince_X

I believe Psylocke owning this one. Both from close and from a distance type of fight. She can not be controlled by a Jedi because she is immune to a telepathic attack. She can create tk shields that can distrupt the light saber (her tk can affect molecular bonds) and break the bones of Obi wan Kanobi.

Now if this is Yoda, its a different story.

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#16  Edited By Super-Buster

I don't think we have seen an upper limit in Obi-Wan's TK ability, who's to say that he couldn't lift several tons if he needed to? Both Kenobi and Betsy use their TK to boost their abilities when they fight, not just Betsy, and there are more applications of the force then simply TK and TP.

@Alexander: Unless stated otherwise, I always use characters in their current forms (except for people like Obi-Wan and Cap, who are dead, I think we'll use Obi-Wan in his prime, just to be fair.)

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#17  Edited By fesak  Moderator

Since this is the 1000000th Psylocke vs. thread i thought i should point out her name is spelled Psylocke.

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#18  Edited By Super-Buster

Thank you fesak.

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#19  Edited By WARLOCK2792

Super-Buster says:

"I don't think we have seen an upper limit in Obi-Wan's TK ability, who's to say that he couldn't lift several tons if he needed to? Both Kenobi and Betsy use their TK to boost their abilities when they fight, not just Betsy, and there are more applications of the force then simply TK and TP. @Alexander: Unless stated otherwise, I always use characters in their current forms (except for people like Obi-Wan and Cap, who are dead, I think we'll use Obi-Wan in his prime, just to be fair.)"
Screw that, I think her Ninja skills could also be a deciding factor. Obi's good and all, but Betsy is just advanced. Also, I haven't seen enough proof of Obi's tk skills to determine that he is better than or equal to, Betsy.
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#20  Edited By WARLOCK2792

Apparition says:

"what's with all the jedi love?"
I heart Shaak Ti. LOL
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#21  Edited By Apparition

lol

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#22  Edited By Apparition

what's with all the jedi love?

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#23  Edited By Super-Buster

Apparition says:

"what's with all the jedi love?"

what are you referring to?

White Mage says:

"Screw that, I think her Ninja skills could also be a deciding factor. Obi's good and all, but Betsy is just advanced. Also, I haven't seen enough proof of Obi's tk skills to determine that he is better than or equal to, Betsy."

What has Betsy done with her TK that you don't think Obi-Wan could accomplish with his? Betsy's ninja skills aren't anything spectacular, and even if they were, Obi is just as good, if not better with his light-saber skills. That plus using the Force to anticipate Psylocke's attacks could swing the battle in his favor.

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#24  Edited By WARLOCK2792

Super-Buster says:

"Apparition says:
"what's with all the jedi love?"
what are you referring to? White Mage says:
"Screw that, I think her Ninja skills could also be a deciding factor. Obi's good and all, but Betsy is just advanced. Also, I haven't seen enough proof of Obi's tk skills to determine that he is better than or equal to, Betsy."
What has Betsy done with her TK that you don't think Obi-Wan could accomplish with his? Betsy's ninja skills aren't anything spectacular, and even if they were, Obi is just as good, if not better with his light-saber skills. That plus using the Force to anticipate Psylock*e*'s attacks could swing the battle in his favor. "
I'll list different things and see your responses.1. Enhancing her fighting skills to superhuman levels with her tk.
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#25  Edited By Apparition

Super-Buster says:

"Apparition says:
"what's with all the jedi love?"
what are you referring to?"

1 - all the jedi battles

2 - all the respect the jedi and sith are getting

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#26  Edited By Super-Buster

White Mage says:

"Enhancing her fighting skills to superhuman levels with her tk."

That's a basic application of the force for all Jedi.

Apparition says:

"1 - all the jedi battles2 - all the respect the jedi and sith are getting"

I apologize if they're getting annoying, I just saw a lot of potential in Star Wars characters as far as battles that haven't been done yet. And as far as I have seen, the people I'm putting the Jedi up against are getting just as much respect.

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#27  Edited By Apparition

Super-Buster says:

"White Mage says:
"Enhancing her fighting skills to superhuman levels with her tk."
That's a basic application of the force for all Jedi. Apparition says:
"1 - all the jedi battles 2 - all the respect the jedi and sith are getting"
I apologize if they're getting annoying, I just saw a lot of potential in Star Wars characters as far as battles that haven't been done yet. And as far as I have seen, the people I'm putting the Jedi up against are getting just as much respect."

no no, its fine i was just saying

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#28  Edited By WARLOCK2792

Super-Buster says:

"White Mage says:
"Enhancing her fighting skills to superhuman levels with her tk."
That's a basic application of the force for all Jedi. Apparition says:
"1 - all the jedi battles 2 - all the respect the jedi and sith are getting"
I apologize if they're getting annoying, I just saw a lot of potential in Star Wars characters as far as battles that haven't been done yet. And as far as I have seen, the people I'm putting the Jedi up against are getting just as much respect."
Oh yeah, Shaak Ti. LOL2. Psylocke unleashed a powerful telekinetic assault that Rachel couldn't match. And was impervious to her mental probes. Psylockes Katana can also cut psychic bonds, and cut through armor affecting the person directly.
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#29  Edited By Super-Buster

White Mage says:

"Super-Buster says:
"White Mage says:
"Enhancing her fighting skills to superhuman levels with her tk."
That's a basic application of the force for all Jedi. Apparition says:
"1 - all the jedi battles 2 - all the respect the jedi and sith are getting"
I apologize if they're getting annoying, I just saw a lot of potential in Star Wars characters as far as battles that haven't been done yet. And as far as I have seen, the people I'm putting the Jedi up against are getting just as much respect."
Oh yeah, Shaak Ti. LOL2. Psylocke unleashed a powerful telekinetic assault that Rachel couldn't match. And was impervious to her mental probes. Psylockes Katana can also cut psychic bonds, and cut through armor affecting the person directly."

Man, its been so long since I've seen the movies, but I think Obi performed a similar feat against a a bunch of droids, I think he prefers to use his light-saber though. Also, what issue is this, Betsy over-powering Rachel seems a little much, isn't Rachel very powerful?

I'm not doubting that her blade could do sufficient damage if it connected, but Obi's light-saber would do just as much damage.

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#30  Edited By WARLOCK2792

Uncanny X-Men 455. She unleashed a telekenetic assault on the X-Men shortly after her ressurrection.

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#31  Edited By Super-Buster

I haven't read that, guess I'll take your word for it.

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#32  Edited By WARLOCK2792

Super-Buster says:

"I haven't read that, guess I'll take your word for it."
It happened around the time when she saw Bishop, after her resurrection. After death, her telekenisis was enhanced greatly.
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#33  Edited By IcePrince_X

Its still Psylocke owning this fight.

She doesn't even need to get close to Obi-Wan to destroy him. And she can create TK shields from his attacks. Jedi may have some probability manipulation just like Domino's mutant ability but Psylocke can not be affected by that.

Among the Jedi it can only be Yoda or Anakin who may have the upper hand with Psylocke only because they use the force differently.

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#34  Edited By Zenma

i'm leaning towards psylock by all these opinions

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#35  Edited By Zenma

Super-Buster says:

"Zenma says
"i'm leaning towards psylock by all these opinions"

Are you so easily swayed?"

well i don't know anything about psylock nor do i wish to waste my time on it

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IcePrince_X says:

"Its still Psylocke owning this fight.She doesn't even need to get close to Obi-Wan to destroy him. And she can create TK shields from his attacks. Jedi may have some probability manipulation just like Domino's mutant ability but Psylocke can not be affected by that.Among the Jedi it can only be Yoda or Anakin who may have the upper hand with Psylocke only because they use the force differently."

Obi-Wan can do anything Betsy can do and more, his powers let him anticipate the attacks of his enemies, affect the minds of others, heal and more. Obi beat Anakin, so why don't you think he could beat Betsy?

Zenma says

"i'm leaning towards psylock by all these opinions"

Are you so easily swayed?

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#37  Edited By Super-Buster

Zenma says:

"Super-Buster says:
"Zenma says
"i'm leaning towards psylock by all these opinions"

Are you so easily swayed?"

well i don't know anything about psylock nor do i wish to waste my time on it"

Ok, fair enough, I won't force you.

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#38  Edited By IcePrince_X

Super-Buster says:

"IcePrince_X says:
"Its still Psylocke owning this fight.She doesn't even need to get close to Obi-Wan to destroy him. And she can create TK shields from his attacks. Jedi may have some probability manipulation just like Domino's mutant ability but Psylocke can not be affected by that.Among the Jedi it can only be Yoda or Anakin who may have the upper hand with Psylocke only because they use the force differently."

Obi-Wan can do anything Betsy can do and more, his powers let him anticipate the attacks of his enemies, affect the minds of others, heal and more. Obi beat Anakin, so why don't you think he could beat Betsy?

Zenma says

"i'm leaning towards psylock by all these opinions"

Are you so easily swayed?"

Can Obi-Wan destroy in a molecular level from a great distance? Can he shatter mountain in a thought? Can he survive reality warping?

Psylocke could and more. Any psionic attack or reality manipulation can not affect Psylocke unless its beyond her powers. May be in a sword fight Obi-Wan may have an edge but it will not shock me if Psylocke will use TK shield herself as well as throw Obi-Wan to kingdom come.

Also put in mind, ninja's are also trained to anticipate their enemies moves.

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#39  Edited By Super-Buster

I can argue the rest of your post, but if Betsy can shatter mountains with a thought then this is not the fight I thought it was.

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#40  Edited By Breast Master

Psy wins.

Psy ALWAYS wins. Opponents do not matter.

Psy v.s. Obi? Blood on aisle two!

Psy v.s. Hulk? Who doesn't wanna make who angry now, bitch?

Psy v.s. Thanos? Wow! I never thought she could fit the entire Infinity Gauntlet all the way up his ass!

Psy v.s. Ditka? And Bears fans everywhere are mourning the loss...

It's just that simple, folks.

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#41  Edited By Super-Buster

Apparently

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#42  Edited By Morningstar1

Psylocke would totally win just because she could rip obi-wan apart. I like obi-wan but no way would he ever win.

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#43  Edited By Super-Buster

When has Psylocke ever been known to rip people apart with her TK? If that's the case, then Obi can use his to crush Betsy's head as well.

DOUBLE KILL!

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#44  Edited By IcePrince_X

The problem here, according to what I read about the Jedi and the Force is the capacity of Obi Wan to carry such deed and act.

His Jedi training teaches him the constraint use of the Force and not all Jedi can use the way other Jedi makes use of the Force. Also, I never read were Obi-Wan's abilities lies in the use of the Force if he is more into the Core (neutral) or what part of the Light he makes use. There are several ways he can make use of it but which is which because Psylocke also carries those abilities and some.

Psylocke's advantage lies on her training and an all-out use of her powers without constraint to earn her the upper hand. As to your statement if she does rip people apart or plainly kill...she does with out hesitation. She has done this in the X-Men and if she was able to during that time, even Sabertooth just to save Boomboom (Meltdown), unfortunately her TP no longer works with Sabertooth. But now, with her TK powers what makes you think she won't use it the way she does it just to get the upper hand.

Unless some one can show me a comicbook showing the fullest potential of Obi-Wan can I have a different view on who is going to win on this because I am limited only to what I read on a StarWars book on the concept of the Force, Jedi Training and watched in the movies from Episode 1 to Episode 6. Obi-Wan is not at the level of Anakin or Yoda.

By the way, Psylocke can also render herself invisible now.

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#45  Edited By Lord Doom

What is with all the Star Wars characters?

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#46  Edited By IcePrince_X

Lord Doom says:

"What is with all the Star Wars characters?"

They are a world of their own characters. Well established and taught of by their creators that it was able to have a life of its own beyond its creators' realm.

I do love Starwars, my favorite character though are the ewoks.

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#47  Edited By Super-Buster

@IcePrince: Your post was very hard to read, but if I understand you correctly, you're saying that because of the restraint that Jedi use during battle, Betsy will have the upper hand, because she doesn't constrain herself? From my knowledge, Psylocke is/was an X-Man, a super-hero, and they only kill when necessary, but that is also the case of Obi-Wan and the Jedi. I don't see constraint becoming a problem.

Obi-Wan is at least at the same level as Anakin (Obi won in their duel on Mustafar) and Yoda is debatable.

Also, it doesn't matter if Psylocke can turn invisible, Jedi Masters like Obi-Wan use the Force to guide their actions.

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#48  Edited By WARLOCK2792

I could've sworn that Psylocke can still shatter not only telekenisis, but also people's minds with her Katana. She can destroy psychic links.

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#49  Edited By Super-Buster

Doesn't really matter since a lightsaber will be just as deadly.

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#50  Edited By WARLOCK2792

Super-Buster says:

"Doesn't really matter since a lightsaber will be just as deadly."
Actually it's completely different.