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Nyssa Al Ghul

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Bourne finds himself being hunted down by a League of Assassin known as Nyssa Al Ghul.

Round 1 Hand to Hand Combat

Round 2 Weapons. Nyssa melee weapons vs Bourne picks up random object to turn into a melee weapon.

Round 3 (Damage Soak Test), Can Nyssa and Bourne still fight each other while still being wounded, bruised and bleeding?

This fight takes place in the warehouse

Face to Face

Both are willing to kill

X-Factor

Strength

Bourne: 92

Nyssa: 78

Bourne is strong enough to knockout foes with one punch, subdue and snapping necks, thanks to his physical capability.

Speed

Bourne: 97

Nyssa: 97

Both fighters are slightly faster demonstrated by their speed and incredible dodging feats.

Reaction

Bourne: 97

Nyssa: 97

Both Nyssa and Bourne has demonstrated much faster reactions speed, capable of casually blocking, countering and avoiding attacks from blows and thanks to Bourne's mental capability.

Agility

Bourne: 97

Nyssa: 97

Both fighters are even on agility, they can jump and climb challenges with ease. Nyssa is shown to be highly skilled in entering and leaving buildings. Like Sara she uses a scarf to quickly descend down from ceilings. While Bourne is pretty agile with his nimble and size, in The Bourne Ultimatum clip shows that he's easily able to jump from rooftop to rooftop to find his target.

Experienced

Bourne: 97

Nyssa: 97

Both fighters has extensive experience in the past, Bourne has taking on highly trained Assets and Assassins from coming after him and he's spent 10 years after Bourne exposed The Operation Blackbriar and escaped. Nyssa has thrown down with Oliver, Merlyn and other strongest opponent she fought.

Training

Bourne: 97

Nyssa: 97.5

Nyssa had gone through the same training that all League members did. Being the daughter of Ra's al Ghul meant that Nyssa was subjected to a higher level of training unlike most members. However, Bourne has extensive training from Delta Force, Green Berets, CIA and Treadstone locked away in his mind despite his amnesia.

Endurance

Bourne: 96

Nyssa: 78

Bourne can take blows from countless foes While Nyssa is shown to be peak human durability than Bourne, but she has never shown that kind of stamina and damage soak to keep up in the fight.

Intelligence

Bourne: 95

Nyssa: 92

Bourne was educated and passed all theory tests and mental tests related to being able to cope with Delta Force, Green Berets, CIA and Treadstone, He's smart enough to manipulate intellectual people to get what he wants. Well Nyssa is nearly intelligent than Bourne as she was able to devise a plan to poison Laurel and kidnapped Dinah to drawback Sara and kidnapped Thea to lure Malcolm Merlyn. As the former heir to the demon, she displayed leadership skills as she lead a team of assassins against Slade's Mirakuru army and to capture Malcolm Merlyn. And also She is skilled in first aid, she treated the sword wound on Oliver's hand and nursed Sara back to health.

Fighting skills

Bourne: 99

Nyssa: 99

This is a tough one. Nyssa has displayed that she is highly skilled in hand-to-hand combat and martial arts, with a prowess that seems to rival Oliver's. She was able to easily beat five armed guards in a matter of seconds. She faced the Arrow head on in a close quarters battle in which she almost beat him. She proved herself an agile fighter, using her light weight and flexibility to her advantage. Despite being bested by both Oliver and Malcolm in the past she was able to defeat Malcolm in single combat (Malcolm was armed only with a tonfa, while she had a sword). In every single one of her confrontations against Oliver, she was never able to defeat the latter. In her two confrontations against her father, she was easily disarmed and defeated. Bourne possesses a variety of skills and he's very adept in hand-to-hand combat, he's demonstrated throughout the films and defeated every single opponent that Bourne has faced during physical combat. He is able to throw punches reaching nearly 100 miles per hour. To the point that he is capable of picking up virtually any object as a weapon for using his surroundings in the fight.

So who will win in this fight and rounds between Nyssa or Bourne and why?

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#2 Posted by batofgotham2000 (447 posts) - - Show Bio

Nyssa all rounds. Bourne has more feats but Nyssa has thrown down with Oliver, Merlyn and mirakuru soldiers.

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#3 Posted by nfactor1995 (12944 posts) - - Show Bio

Bourne is a difficult character for me to rank next to comic book live-action characters.

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#4 Posted by mrmonster (15626 posts) - - Show Bio

Bourne stomps. He's practically unstoppable. I mean, in the Ultimatum, he used a book and a towel to beat a man with a knife and a gun.

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#6 Posted by jayskee (4885 posts) - - Show Bio

Bourne

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#8 Posted by TheSuperor (6838 posts) - - Show Bio

Nyssa stomps the first two rounds and loses the third

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#9 Edited by Cosmic_Templar (2571 posts) - - Show Bio

Nyssa with high difficulty.

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#10 Posted by Vector_ (118 posts) - - Show Bio

Jesus Christ it's Jason Bourne.

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#11 Posted by asianpersuasion (534 posts) - - Show Bio

@thesuperor: she can't fight Bourne with her bullet wound?

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#12 Posted by HeroUp2112 (18333 posts) - - Show Bio

1. Bourne (most likely).

2. Nyssa (what's he gonna pick up in a warehouse? He MIGHT be able to get a 2x4 with some nails sticking out against her sword(s)...he's a bad ass, but c'mon)

3. I thought they were both wounded to begin with?

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#13 Posted by asianpersuasion (534 posts) - - Show Bio

@heroup2112: Bourne is far stronger, damage soak and more ruthless than Nyssa.

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#14 Posted by HeroUp2112 (18333 posts) - - Show Bio

@asianpersuasion:

True, but a piece of wood is only going to take you so far against a similarly skilled opponent with a sword. Two now that i think about it.

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@batofgotham2000: yea desh from Bourne ultimatum when he fought him.

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#18 Posted by PeterParkerJr (6767 posts) - - Show Bio

Bourne.

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#21 Posted by jashro44 (53170 posts) - - Show Bio

I've only seen the first 3 Bourne movies but aside from Bourne's improve skills (being able to use anything as a weapon) I didn't find him very impressive. Nyssa should win.

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#22 Edited by asianpersuasion (534 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: nyssa and bourne because both are been training for all years in a past

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#23 Posted by jashro44 (53170 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: nyssa and bourne because both are been training for all years in a past

That doesn't really mean anything. Nyssa has better feats. The extent of Bourne's feats from what I have seen is killing featless assassins.

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#25 Posted by batofgotham2000 (447 posts) - - Show Bio

@asianpersuasion: So you are saying that Desh could take down Slade, Darhk, Ras and Merlyn. We don't have to mention that Oliver has taken hits from a mirakuru Slade and still did not get knocked down. His punches also hurt Mirakuru users.

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round 1 nyssa - leagus of assassins martial combat training is beyond every spec ops black ops hand to hand combat there is, lol black canary said to diggle that she can make the special ops guys look like kindergarten class.

round 2 nyssa - dont get me wrong I prefer jason bourne over her... but in any kind of weapon/hand to hand, he is not a match to LOA martial training.

round 3 Bourne- nyssa is a tough girl, but a bullet wound? bourne wins hand to hand, weapons, whatever.

Give bourne any kind of gun, one shot is all he need, nyssa with her normal gear, and Bourne with his normal gear, Bourne stomps, and personally just my opnion, he is much more smarter then her, so all of the above not relevant since he will never let that happen, manged to kill the CIA director that way, and all treadstone subjects are physicaly and mentally augmented beyond human limits, so in general strength he also overpowers her, it's just the league training is insane, and nyssa born to it.

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#28 Edited by asianpersuasion (534 posts) - - Show Bio

@saywhat23: your right league of assassins beats spec ops and black ops because they are master martial arts and agility skill and them they are only hand to hand combat so LOA wins.

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#29 Posted by batofgotham2000 (447 posts) - - Show Bio

@asianpersuasion: Coulda woulda didn't. Only advantage I see for bourne is strength imo. Most of the people I mentioned could take down Bourne without much difficulty.

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#30 Posted by Smoke-W (418 posts) - - Show Bio

Bourne.

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#32 Posted by asianpersuasion (534 posts) - - Show Bio

@saywhat23: Bourne has better endurance and toughness he can take more punishment from Nyssa's martial arts moves on him. So that's true

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@asianpersuasion said:

Round 1 Hand to Hand combat

Round 2 weapons. Nyssa melee weapons vs Bourne picks up stuff to turn into a melee weapon.

Round 3 can nyssa fight Bourne with the bullet wound in her body?

This fight takes place in the warehouse

Who will win in a fight between Nyssa or Bourne and why?

Nyssa BARELY, she seems to be able to grapple. This is a hard call.

Nyssa, bow is more effective than random weapons. This is also hard to call.

Are they both wounded or just Nyssa? If just Nyssa, then Bourne wins.

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#36 Posted by asianpersuasion (534 posts) - - Show Bio

@llehdevil: Bourne was shot an arrow by Nyssa and Nyssa is shot an a bullet by Bourne.

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#37 Posted by LlehDevil (7259 posts) - - Show Bio

@llehdevil: Bourne was shot an arrow by Nyssa and Nyssa is shot an a bullet by Bourne.

Bullet shot sounds worse, but arrow could be worse, so Bourne wins more likely than not.

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#38 Posted by asianpersuasion (534 posts) - - Show Bio

@llehdevil: Nyssa is shot in the ribs and Bourne is shot in the shoulder

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#39 Posted by TorikoWONTDie (1667 posts) - - Show Bio

Bourne can blitz regular cops like they're toddlers. He has no outright arrow timing feats, but he's gotta.be about as fast as Nyssa.

Fighting ability? Nyssa is in particular with merlyn...Kinda. that's better than anyone Bourne fought.

Stamina/endurance. Nyssa is actually good here, but Bourne is ridiculous.

Durability? Bounce laughs off car crashes like you would a bit from pillow. Punches from reg humans are like nothing. Nyssa isn't good in durability by arrow standards either. Pretty close.

Nyssa wins h2h after a long fight.

Nyssa stomps if she's armed.

Bourne stomps round 3.

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#41 Posted by asianpersuasion (534 posts) - - Show Bio

@torikowontdie: while Nyssa has took on oliver and merlyn but bourne has good fighting ability, stamina, endurance and durability he"s able take on highly trained agents and assassins such as castle, jarda, desh and the asset.

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@asianpersuasion: Still... LOA training meant for fighting against alot of enemies at a single time.., bourne maybe can win on 1 vs 1, but nyssa can take out many human enemies, like 1 vs 5 or even 10, but if bourne has his gun, it's a done deal, also he will probably lure her into some spot where he is gonna shot her in the head with a sniper rifle half a mile away, he is extremly smart, toke on the all company single single handedly, one man army.

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#44 Edited by asianpersuasion (534 posts) - - Show Bio

@saywhat23: bourne has Filipino Kali and Jeet Kune Do style. what fighting style that nyssa has?

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#45 Edited by SayWhat23 (157 posts) - - Show Bio

@asianpersuasion:let's forget nyssa it the daughter of the demon head and she got a special training and better then all others since she also meant to take her father place.

All of the members of the league go through intense and harsh training that leaves many people dead or in top, peak human condition. They are trained in stealth, assassination, swordsmanship, archery, many other forms of weaponry and most quickest and brutal ways of murder. All of the members are trained to escape most prisons, so many of them are probably good escape artists, they are all masters in a few fighting styles, including swordsmanship fighting styles.

some fighting styles the league uses that I know of : all ninja style, ninjutsu, karate, aikido, Jiu-Jitsu, many forms of kung fu the one i know is wing chun, muay thai, hapkido, pi gua and more.

Bottom line, in fighting styles the LOA takes all, they are the most skilled assassins.

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#46 Posted by asianpersuasion (534 posts) - - Show Bio

@saywhat23: that means bourne cannot defeat nyssa?

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@asianpersuasion: In all hand to hand/cold or improvise weapons combat unfortunately I dont think so, maybe he can defeat her due to his enhanced body physics and mental and the fact that he is much more smarter then her, but if we looking only at fighting skills the chances aren't in his favor, he needs a gun, or some prep, but knowing bourne, he allways got some prep.

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#48 Edited by asianpersuasion (534 posts) - - Show Bio

@saywhat23: his enhanced body physics and mental might be his advantage over her because he's slightly fast, stronger, durable and smarter than nyssa.

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#49 Posted by SayWhat23 (157 posts) - - Show Bio

@asianpersuasion: yeah... I guess it's a close call, although logic dictates nyssa is taking the hand to hand combat.