Goblin has his Glider and bombs, Sandman is in Sand form, Ragnarok Hulk, IW/EG Stark. Battlefield is empty NYC. Which team wins?
NWH Green Goblin and Sandman vs MCU Iron Man and Hulk
MCU Iron Man can beat Green Goblin rather easily, but then he and Hulk would have to find a way to down Sandman
Easily? How? Bombs would hurt, Goblin glider cut Otto's arms clean off - Goblin can physically compete
MCU Iron Man can beat Green Goblin rather easily, but then he and Hulk would have to find a way to down Sandman
Easily? How? Bombs would hurt, Goblin glider cut Otto's arms clean off - Goblin can physically compete
Iron Man has significantly better offence, durability, speed, and versatility.
MCU Iron Man can beat Green Goblin rather easily, but then he and Hulk would have to find a way to down Sandman
Easily? How? Bombs would hurt, Goblin glider cut Otto's arms clean off - Goblin can physically compete
Iron Man has significantly better offence, durability, speed, and versatility.
Flight Speed/Maneuverability: Goblin stole the box from Strange's hand before he could do anything about it avoiding Octavious and the three Spider-Man present: https://gfycat.com/illiterateadorableacornwoodpecker-goblin-nwh
- He also intercepted Holland as he was saving MJ, Stark failed to do similar when he tried saving Rhodes in Civil War
- And keeping up with the Spider-Man (s) web-swinging speed
Durability is possible, Goblin was physically superior to Tobey and Holland and was laughing off their attacks so I'd say they're close. Goblin has better physical feats than Tony and would win a hand-to-hand fight. Goblin isn't a big tank like Cull or Thanos and would actively try to dodge his attacks -- He struggled to hit Star-Lord, I can see a similar thing happening with Norman
@webinyoureye11: Come on now…
I know you’re a huge Spider-Man fan, and that there’s major post-release hype going on, but be realistic. Goblin has zero chance at beating IW/EG Iron Man
@webinyoureye11: Ironman has better physical and durability feats since he put up a good fight against thanos and was not koed from the beating he took.
Also thanos maybe a brick but he dodges and uses his skills as shown in the hulk fight and trinity fight. If you can hit thanos you can hit goblin. Thanos has reacted to lasers, mjolnir and stormbreaker swings.
For all the wank Sandman gets in these threads, people seem to be unfamiliar with his actual feats. Just two or three missiles from Harry was enough to take him out of the fight in Spider-Man 3 while in giant form and Electro pre-arc reactor amp was about to overpower him in NWH.
Tony solos. Hulk solos or stalemates.
For all the wank Sandman gets in these threads, people seem to be unfamiliar with his actual feats. Just two or three missiles from Harry was enough to take him out of the fight in Spider-Man 3 while in giant form and Electro pre-arc reactor amp was about to overpower him in NWH.
Tony solos. Hulk solos or stalemates.
That was just Sandman being unable to contain him, there was no indication he was going to KO Sandman. That Electro had also absorbed the new energy and was more powerful than his TASM 2 self.
They have no way to put him down.
For all the wank Sandman gets in these threads, people seem to be unfamiliar with his actual feats. Just two or three missiles from Harry was enough to take him out of the fight in Spider-Man 3 while in giant form and Electro pre-arc reactor amp was about to overpower him in NWH.
Tony solos. Hulk solos or stalemates.
That was just Sandman being unable to contain him, there was no indication he was going to KO Sandman. That Electro had also absorbed the new energy and was more powerful than his TASM 2 self.
They have no way to put him down.
Electro has the 10 GJ/s Arc Reactor too, he scales above himself when absorbed 500 megawatts (NYC power) per Andrew statement.
@frozen: Harry still KO'd him, heat was shown to turn him into glass. Tony lights him up with a couple missiles, Hulk smashes through him. Water is shown to significantly weaken him, with him being incapped via dissolution. Given the battlefield is NYC, a genius like Tony could easily figure this out and Hulk could too by chance.
@kryptonianking88: How does Hulk solo a literal pile of sand without some type of gear or prep?
I'm aware Iron Man alone is enough but how does Hulk even help against Sand Man
@frozen: Harry still KO'd him, heat was shown to turn him into glass. Tony lights him up with a couple missiles, Hulk smashes through him. Water is shown to significantly weaken him, with him being incapped via dissolution. Given the battlefield is NYC, a genius like Tony could easily figure this out and Hulk could too by chance.
This was all pre NWH. Sandman doesn't seem to have been taken from SM3, given that he tanked electricity without being glassed. He also didn't turn back to human form in the apartment and was surprised when he became human form again when cured. This suggests he had an upgrade of sorts. Not to mention he became 300ft tall in NWH, he was nowhere near that size in SM3.
@frozen: Harry still KO'd him, heat was shown to turn him into glass. Tony lights him up with a couple missiles, Hulk smashes through him. Water is shown to significantly weaken him, with him being incapped via dissolution. Given the battlefield is NYC, a genius like Tony could easily figure this out and Hulk could too by chance.
This was all pre NWH. Sandman doesn't seem to have been taken from SM3, given that he tanked electricity without being glassed. He also didn't turn back to human form in the apartment and was surprised when he became human form again when cured. This suggests he had an upgrade of sorts. Not to mention he became 300ft tall in NWH, he was nowhere near that size in SM3.
Also Harry didn't defeat Sandman anyway, in spite of all those missiles and fire
@thewatcherking: he was out of the fight tho & didn’t return until after venom died, no?
MCU Iron Man can beat Green Goblin rather easily, but then he and Hulk would have to find a way to down Sandman
Not sure how they're putting down sandman but IW/EG Iron Man should be above Gobby, and Hulk is durable enough to take anything either of the NWH team can put out.
MCU Iron Man can beat Green Goblin rather easily, but then he and Hulk would have to find a way to down Sandman
Easily? How? Bombs would hurt, Goblin glider cut Otto's arms clean off - Goblin can physically compete
Iron Man has significantly better offence, durability, speed, and versatility.
Flight Speed/Maneuverability: Goblin stole the box from Strange's hand before he could do anything about it avoiding Octavious and the three Spider-Man present: https://gfycat.com/illiterateadorableacornwoodpecker-goblin-nwh
- He also intercepted Holland as he was saving MJ, Stark failed to do similar when he tried saving Rhodes in Civil War
- And keeping up with the Spider-Man (s) web-swinging speed
Durability is possible, Goblin was physically superior to Tobey and Holland and was laughing off their attacks so I'd say they're close. Goblin has better physical feats than Tony and would win a hand-to-hand fight. Goblin isn't a big tank like Cull or Thanos and would actively try to dodge his attacks -- He struggled to hit Star-Lord, I can see a similar thing happening with Norman
1. This isn't civil war IM is IW/EG IM who has Nantes that rebuild his armour and can stand up to 4 stoneThanos for a few minute fight and actually draw blood (which until Thor used stormbreaker no one did) Goblin has nothing to match the damage output of Ghanos without stones let alone with. He has nothing of this level in offensive capability.
2. Strange is a normal human with no greater speed than that, so what
3. With lesser armor in earlier movies IM has better speed feats than intercepting Spidey.
4. When has Tony ever fought H2H??
As for Sandman IM could use the blast he used in Age of Ulton to superheated the core of the city so Thor's lightning could shatter the city to superheated SM to molten glass that becomes class that Hulk can thunderclap and shatter. With the mush superior armor he has here to AoU probably really quickly.
"Durability is possible, Goblin was physically superior to Tobey and Holland and was laughing off their attacks so I'd say they're close. Goblin has better physical feats than Tony and would win a hand-to-hand fight."
There durability is definitely not on par.
https://images.app.goo.gl/2wABn9AUirFnQy6W9
Iron Man solos tbh. Stark is exactly the type of opponent that would be a good counter to Sandman. Just blasts him off.
@webinyoureye11: "Durability is possible,"
Ironman has significantly better durability feats, he was hit by a weak meteorite, power stone.
"Goblin was physically superior to Tobey and Holland and was laughing off their attacks so I'd say they're close."
Raimi Spider-man scaled above Norman physically. I can explain this if you don't believe me.
"Goblin has better physical feats than Tony and would win a hand-to-hand fight."
Tony has better striking feats (because one of his hits managed to hurt Thanos). Tony has much better means of inflicting damage then vice versa.
Tony or Hulk solos.
if goblin can get his hands on tony, he will crush him like a tin can. not sure how either of them will put sandman down. not even electro lightning was able to outright glass sandman. will be a grueling and hard fight for team 2.
Well apparently Iron Man is a non-factor so team 1, maybe Hulk could solo but kind of unlikely with Sandman
For all the wank Sandman gets in these threads, people seem to be unfamiliar with his actual feats. Just two or three missiles from Harry was enough to take him out of the fight in Spider-Man 3 while in giant form and Electro pre-arc reactor amp was about to overpower him in NWH.
Tony solos. Hulk solos or stalemates.
That was just Sandman being unable to contain him, there was no indication he was going to KO Sandman. That Electro had also absorbed the new energy and was more powerful than his TASM 2 self.
They have no way to put him down.
I agree with Frozen here.
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