No Way Home Villains (MCU) VS Fantastic 4 (Fox)

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Spider-Man Villains

  • Green Goblin
  • Doc Ock
  • Sandman
  • Lizard
  • Electro

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Fantastic 4

  • Reed Richards
  • Ben Grimm
  • Sue Storm
  • Johnny Storm

Fight takes place same as in NWH.

Round 1: No Knowledge, Random Encounter

Round 2: Full Knowledge, 1 Day Prep Time.

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Electro beats Johnny, Sandman beats the rest of them. The others aren't needed

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Fantastic four win thing beats doc ock and lizard human torch beats sandman and the rest beat green goblin and electro

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Electro beats Johnny, Sandman beats the rest of them. The others aren't needed

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Electro beats Johnny, Sandman beats the rest of them. The others aren't needed

Reed smothers him while Johnny takes care of Sandman

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Reed should stomp electro who has a body now rubber > electricity. After that Johnny solos the rest

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F4 should take both rounds handily. Johnny handles Sandman and Sue just contains Electro in a field. With the biggest players out of the way, they should sweep.

With prep it’s even more of a mismatch in favor of F4

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Human Torch solos

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Electro beats Johnny, Sandman beats the rest of them. The others aren't needed

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This was pretyy much my post instead only difference is that it had rhino

Ot fantastic four mid difficulty

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Fantastic for claps

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Electro solos

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Speed is a problem, but I don't know if they can hurt Ben and Human Torch can one-shot.

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Human torch eradicates them, heat can solve the flint marco problem.

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F4 mid diffs.

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FF without difficulty

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#22  Edited By CryoLancer47

The Fantastic Four win in a horrible, one-sided mismatch thanks to Johnny & Sue, and Ben can help out, too:

Here are some feats:

The Human Torch has the powers of pyrokinesis and flight. As a result, he is also immune to fire and heat.

The heat and flames released from Johnny can reach at least 4000 Kelvin, which is over 6700 Fahrenheit or 3700 Celsius. While testing out the limits of his powers in the first movie, Johnny reached this temperature without much effort.

SUE: You were at 4000 Kelvin. Any hotter, you're approaching supernova.

JOHNNY: Sweet.

SUE: That's the temperature of the sun.

REED: Not only could you kill yourself, but you could set fire to Earth's atmosphere and destroy all human life as we know it.

The surface of the Sun is roughly 5800 Kelvin, so this was an accurate assessment.

When facing off against Dr Doom at the climax of the 2005 film, the Fantastic Four's strategy was for Johnny to go supernova in order to superheat Dr Doom's metallic exterior (https://youtu.be/kPRjkUwfzUc?t=120).

It completely incinerated Doom's costume and burnt most of his metallic exterior, although he survived.

Out-speeds a heat-seeking missile while maneuvering through New York City
Out-speeds a heat-seeking missile while maneuvering through New York City
Maneuvers through buses/cars and catches up to Silver Surfer, who is known to travel between planets and across solar systems. Notice how in the first few seconds of the GIF, the mere force of his flight is enough to knock over several cars.
Maneuvers through buses/cars and catches up to Silver Surfer, who is known to travel between planets and across solar systems. Notice how in the first few seconds of the GIF, the mere force of his flight is enough to knock over several cars.
Staggers Dr Doom with a fire blast, which disintegrates part of his costume.
Staggers Dr Doom with a fire blast, which disintegrates part of his costume.
Human Torch shoots a giant fireball at Dr Doom, singing his costume and staggering him. Note: Johnny had the combined powers of the Fantastic Four but was not amped, while Dr Doom was amped by Silver Surfer's board.
Human Torch shoots a giant fireball at Dr Doom, singing his costume and staggering him. Note: Johnny had the combined powers of the Fantastic Four but was not amped, while Dr Doom was amped by Silver Surfer's board.
Destroys several windows and fills a room with fire
Destroys several windows and fills a room with fire
Destroys a small aircraft with a single fire blast
Destroys a small aircraft with a single fire blast
One blast sets a massive area on fire
One blast sets a massive area on fire
Tanks a massive explosion to protect a little girl
Tanks a massive explosion to protect a little girl
Survives a lightning blast from Dr Doom, which sent Thing flying into the air. Johnny was fine moments later and proceeded to go supernova.
Survives a lightning blast from Dr Doom, which sent Thing flying into the air. Johnny was fine moments later and proceeded to go supernova.

And Sue solos while Bloodlusted:

Sue's force-fields have blocked Johnny's fire. Same Johnny that was casually reaching Supernova levels of heat when he was just learning his powers:

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For the first round Sue just contains them both until they suffocate while she's invisible.

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For the second round Sue crushes them between force fields.

Sue has also stated that she can create a force field inside someone's body and expand it until they explode

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She covered an explosion with her force field while it was going off which should make her significantly faster than everyone here.

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Her force field momentarily contained Torch going Supernova (the temperature of the surface of the sun) while Doom was also blasting from the inside (Doom's casual blasts can destroy cars).

And managed to somewhat support and slow down the London Eye. Which weighs over a thousand tons:

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She's also prevented the London Eye (weights 2314 tons without any people on) from falling over for an extended period of time with people on.

The ferris wheel she held back. The London Eye. Is over a thousand tons:

From the ground, the massive2,300-ton attraction resembles a glorified Ferris wheel.

And some more feats & scaling via Doom, to show you how screwed the NWH Villains are in this fight:

And seeing how far Surfer scales in durability in comparison to MCU characters:

He's not Continental. The guy casually ignored a Continental level destruction. And if you look back on the video. The entire planet itself seemed to repeatedly shake from the Force:

Surviving something on that level is far above Continental++. And he stayed in there for a good while before leaving.

And Doom casually overpowering Thing. Who scales to merged Johnny in AP. Same merged Johnny that sent Surfer Doom Flying a good distance with a stone punch (Skip to 0:46):

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As well as the armor tanking Johnny going Supernova on him for a while, and still being able to move, until they cool him down with water:

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Is another feat for his armor, and for Ben who tanked hits from said armor.

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F4