EMMA FROST & RACHEL SUMMERS

Mid Tiers

RULES-
- TP Only
ZERO REST BETWEEN ROUNDS
MATCH-
R1- Emma ALONE
R2- Rachel ALONE
R3- Rachel and Emma run the gauntlet together 4 at a time!
R1- Emma ALONE
R2- Rachel ALONE
R3- Rachel and Emma run the gauntlet together 4 at a time!
1- Sersi
2- Gamesmaster
3- Teen Jean Grey
4- Quentin Quire
5- 3-in-1 Stepford Cuckoos
6- Miss Sinister
7- Xavier Jr.
8- Xorna
9- Mastermind
10- Madelynn Pryor
11- Pre-Shaman Nate Grey
12- Base Cable
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Sersi mid tier?
She certainly isn't a high tier if that's what you're getting at.
Round One: Stops at the last round. It’s very interesting about who actually stalls Emma for a bit and who gets beat soundly.
Like, 1-4 Emma breezes through.
Then the Stepford Cuckoos stall Emma for a bit until she dismantled them from the inside out.
Then, it’s back to beating the next two with effort.
Then, Xorn Jean absolutely stalls Emma by scaling off her fight with depowered-Emma, the 3 Cuckoo’s, and Teen Jean before she goes down. That pure power to aggressive experience difference that she has never actually displayed outside that fight is insanity to think about. But based around how well the Cuckoo’s do against High Tiers as a whole compared to how soundly they were beaten by Xorn Jean, it just foretells a potential extended fight before Emma beats her off of either taking advantage of Jean’s unstable powers or off of pure skill because Jean lacks feats outside that one fight.
Mastermind and Madelyne put up fights enough to give Emma trouble because Emma gets no rest. If she wins, it Is after an extended fight.
Pre-Shaman Nate can take down Emma if she is not careful. But Emma is notorious for her cunning.
Cable absolutely stops Emma though, after so many telepathic battles.
Round Two: Rachel stops at Madelyne. This purely has to do with Rachel’s fighting style.
Things go the same way as it did for Emma for the first few rounds.
Then it’s a toss up for how difficult the Cuckoos make things for Rachel. Rachel is winning either way, but how easy it is depends on if Rachel chooses to force her way through the Cuckoo’s or if she forgets how to defend and the Cuckoo’s stall her out. I want to say that since Rachel knows she is in a gauntlet, she will have her guard up and brute-forces past the Cuckoos.
Then Rachel defeats the next couple of psychics soundly.
Then she completely gets stalled out by Xorn. Unlike Emma, Rachel will just meet Xorn blow-for-blow. This will lead to a win by taking advantage of Xorn’s unstable powers, but that decision to meet Xorn’snpower with her own will leave Rachel drained.
That’s where Rachel will either trounce Mastermind or get stalled by his illusion casting based combat. Either way, she will have just enough power to defeat Mastermind.
She stops at Madelyne because by then, she will have exhausted too much power to keep her momentum. Rachel is no slouch in psychic combat, but she seldom uses an opponent’s weaknesses against them the way Emma does. The fact that Rachel does make this far though does testify how powerful she is.
Round Three: The girls clear. Rachel and Emma perfectly cover each other’s weaknesses.
This order be stinky
Emma stops at Mastermind, he was already stalemating her when both were in peak physicality, her being inevitably tired will most likely cause her to lose a few upsets, enough for me to say she stops there.
Rachel most likely stops just before that
Combined they clear most likely
This order be stinky
Where is the smell coming from?
@professorrespect: @samgee: @pyrofn:And if all powers were allowed?
I concur with Prof. I, for some reason, still think they'd stop at the same places if all powers were allowed, except Jean may give them trouble individually with TK
It is difficult to say but my estimates will have them ending between Xorn and Madelyne Pryor.
All powers allowed is very tricky it makes it better for some and worse for some. For instance Sersi now might have a chance. Rachel Summers I have learned likes to duke it out. Sersi was giving Exodus a great fight in the Genosha arc and that Exodus is stronger than Rachel in telekinesis. Sersi might also end up transmuting Rachel and she could lose. On the occasion Rachel will beat Sersi this fight would have exhausted her and makes the rest of the gauntlet more difficult. On the other hand she could also stomp characters like Quentin Quire and the Cuckoos more easily with her telekinesis. I do not know if it will have an affect on where they end up stopping
In round 2 they will stop at the last 4
Sersi mid tier?
She certainly isn't a high tier if that's what you're getting at.
At least low high tier well in my opinion
@cosmic_reign: With just TP or all powers?
@cosmic_reign: With just TP or all powers?
Oh, My bad! Totally missed the TP only... Even tho it's the 1st rule...smh 😵💫
Yeah, I'll reneg on that!
.... but I do think they lose to Sersi with ALL powers allowed, just to answer that ?.
*Edit
Still tho, Eternals are are no pushovers in TP. The fact that they(any participating Eternal) AGREED/ALLOWED Jean to take pychic control of them during Judgement Day kinda shows that they have a decent lvl of TP resistance IMO
@cosmic_reign: With just TP or all powers?
Oh, My bad! Totally missed the TP only... Even tho it's the 1st rule...smh 😵💫
Yeah, I'll reneg on that!
.... but I do think they lose to Sersi with ALL powers allowed, just to answer that ?.
*Edit
Still tho, Eternals are are no pushovers in TP. The fact that they(any participating Eternal) AGREED/ALLOWED Jean to take pychic control of them during Judgement Day kinda shows that they have a decent lvl of TP resistance IMO
Yes that is true. AXE introduced to the eternals the psychic firewall.
This can give Sersi enough protection to beat Emma. Rachel Summers is a tighter fight because she has strong telekinesis to rely on but Emma Frost does not
This order be stinky
Where is the smell coming from?
The order
Sersi mid tier?
She certainly isn't a high tier if that's what you're getting at.
At least low high tier well in my opinion
TP only my bad yeah she's just another Mantis just range and communication
None of these characters are mid tier.
and they would be?
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