Nightwing and Red Hood run the 2v1 gauntlet

Nightwing & Red Hood

Gauntlet:

1. Bullseye
2. Miles Morales
3. Conner Hawke
4. Punisher
5. Elektra
6. Shang-Chi
7. Bane
8. Deadshot
9. Daredevil
10. Captain America
11. Lady Shiva
12. Batman
13. Cassandra Cain
14. Deadpool

Rules:

• Standard gear.
• Pre-New 52 DC characters.
• Captain America is pre-depowered Steve.
• Bane is off Venom.
• Morals on.
• They get full rest between each round.
• Start 30 feet apart.
• Fights take place here:

Bane is off Venom? You mean Jason?

Probably 6, definitely stops at 9.

Stops at 1 or 3. Bullseye's combination of deadly throwing weapons and martial arts can win. Connor already beat Bamboo Monkey and kept up with Lady Shiva who both schooled Nightwing and Todd gets disarmed then thrashed by Connor's superior marksmanship and skill.

@hatemalingsia: stop at 9? Nightwing can already give Daredevil a good fight and when you add Jason in there they beat him. Stops 10.

No, I specified this is Pre-New 52 Jason. Bane's off venom because he has more feats that way.

Deadpool or clear

Clears or Stops at Deadshot or Deadpool.

Explain how they get past rounds 10-13.

Stops at Deadshot, and would lose to Batman, Captain America, Cassandra Cain, Deadpool, and possibly Daredevil.

Stops at 2.

Only reason they don't stop at Bane is guns. They don't clear 10 through 14.

Scratch that. How do they even clear Bane?

@frozen: PIS :p

No. Seriously. Didn't Redhood have a decent fight vs Batman. Also this is morals ON, so not like Bats is going to kill them. Didn't Nightwing have a decent showing vs Batgirl? Didn't Nightwing fight Lady Shiva and have a pretty good outing? They should be able to at leas Dodge Cap's initial shield throw. Doesn't Nightwing carry trick Wing Dings?

Answer my questions then maybe I'll change my mind.

@bat_girl_cc: ??? Maybe I'm wrong.

@frozen:

• Bane is off Venom.

@frozen: Bane would beat them h2h, but the worry would be Jason's use of firearms. If it gets close Bane wrecks them. Question is can he?

@lukehero:

1. Batman was mostly holding back - given his vastly superior feats, he can beat Jason down whenever he wants. In Pre-New 52 canon, he already dodged most of Nightwing's hits while holding back and remaining calm
2. No. Nightwing is not even close to Cassandra whatsoever. She would stomp him into nothing given she is much faster, strikes harder and has the body reading advantage
3. No. Shiva stomped Dick and proceeded to toy with Connor Hawke
4. Steve has tagged faster opponents than Dick and Jason. The only advantage the team possibly have is agility and the margin isn't too large to really become notworthy. Steve outclasses them in just about every other physical area

@frozen:

What about Redhood Shooting Shiva, while she stomps Dick? Same for Cap.

I'll go ahead and change my mind on the others though.

@lukehero: Shiva can dodge bullets. Cap can see faster so bullet-dodging is not a problem, he can also bounce his shield to hit both.

Yes, Nightwing has 1 good showing against Cass, the same way that he has 1 good showing against Batman, and he also has 1 good showing against Deathstroke...PIS/WIS, all of them have either stomped him, or trashed him on many ocasions, he's not even close to their level...and on top of Cass having danced circles around Nightwing without getting touched, on more than one ocasion, there was even one ocasion, on which Nightwing admitted to Cass, that because of her body-reading, he knows that he can't touch her.

Red Hood oneshotting Shiva in the New 52 was so funny, that you had dozens of comicviner's going into all of Jason's threads just to say: "Jason oneshots" LOL.

Both Dick and Jason are good, but thei're not THAT good, not even close.

This.

Might stop at Bane. Deadshot kills them.

@frozen: @bat_girl_cc: There was context to him having a good showing vs Deathstroke. DS said he had a different attitude/style when he was wearing the Batsuit and that he was now willing to fight dirty. So, I wouldn't classify that as PIS. I would say that's Nightwing learning and growing to a new level. That doesn't mean I'm saying he is anywhere near their level. I was just thinking combined with Jason they might have a chance of sneaking through, but I guess not.

As far as vs Batman, Frozen already explained the context of that. As far as his encounter with Batgirl, fair enough, I'll agree since you know more than me on that one.

"Nightwing and Red Hood run the 2v1 gauntlet" and get stopped at Wave 12.

Why is Batman above Shiva? She's the deadliest person here. If they manage to get past Deadshot, they stop at Shiva.

I think stops at 10, but I think Cap should be after Batman because I think the two of them could take him.

they stop at miles. don't people always say that he can beat nightwing and some other bat guy together.

If this were New 52 Nightwing and Red Hood, they would stomp

They stop at cassandra, she is too much for them.

I think they'd have a difficult time with this gauntlet, but they stop at round 10/Cap. Between the shield, physicals, and skill, I see him beating them.

I love Nightwing but they stop at Bane. Personally I think Bane (and Batman) should be higher but I guess that isn't important.

deadpool is the limit

Stop at Elektra

@bluejay4: Miles takes this with little effort 10/10. The kid would bullet dodge everything and venom sting if things got even a little tight. And there is the stealth.

10

They won't make it past 6

Stops at Daredevil

They stop at either Batman or Wade.

They stop at Deadshot, if they clear then I'm willing to say they clear til' 13-14. Batman's not killing them morals on.

L. D.

Spite vs current elektra stops at 5

Batman and Shiva have only ever stalemated.

They stop at Cassandra in a tough fight for Black Bat.

@frozen: Jason doesn't have any of his New 52 gear.

Stops at round 10.

Hmm might stop at 1 because Jason would probably hinder Nightwing a lot due to being short-bus material.