New Krypton vs Shi'ar Empire

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Shiar owns
They have faced Supermen before, once they figure out the Kryptonians are sun powered its trouble.
Even if the Shiar were not able to figure this out it would take years for Krypton to cut the Shiar down to size. 
The Shiar was typically a whole Galaxy, millions and millions of stars, Billions and Billions of Planets
 
Add Entities  the Phoenix force and its a stomp

wouldnt they just sic gladiators home world on new krypton once they figure out the sun thing itd probably be a massacre

Problem is, they don't have anyone that can go against a kryptonian. The members of New Krypton have 100000 people with those levels, that without counting Superman, Supergirl, Jax-Ur, Zod and Azura who are quite skilled with those powers.
 
A group of regular citizens of New Krypton beat up and killed Doomsday without any problem, now they are thousand and have armies with people with those powers. Oh and the Kryptonian technology was already more advance than any other in the universe when their planet was destroyed, with the new advances they should be quite more formidable

but the shiar arent stupid so theyd do research not saying theyd win easy but if they figuered out their weaknesses theyd win

" wouldnt they just sic gladiators home world on new krypton  "

@Son_of_Magnus

" Krypton is also more advanced "

@joshmightbe

" once they figure out the sun thing itd probably be a massacre "

" wouldnt they just sic gladiators home world on new krypton once they figure out the sun thing itd probably be a massacre "

" @Son_of_Magnus: do shiar have magic users? if so that could be their ace in the hole im not completely positive the kryptonians would lose but the shiar have a good chance "

" @joshmightbe said:

" @Son_of_Magnus: do shiar have magic users? if so that could be their ace in the hole im not completely positive the kryptonians would lose but the shiar have a good chance "

Magic is not really a problem for Kryptonians anymore more like an annoyance "

" @Son_of_Magnus said:

" @joshmightbe said:

" @Son_of_Magnus: do shiar have magic users? if so that could be their ace in the hole im not completely positive the kryptonians would lose but the shiar have a good chance "

Magic is not really a problem for Kryptonians anymore more like an annoyance "

That's just Superman actually. The rest are still vulnerable. "

" but the shiar arent stupid so theyd do research not saying theyd win easy but if they figuered out their weaknesses theyd win "

" @Son_of_Magnus: do shiar have magic users? if so that could be their ace in the hole im not completely positive the kryptonians would lose but the shiar have a good chance "

" DC's most powerful magical heroes (Doctor Fate, Zatanna, Captain Marvel, Shadowpact, etc.) all banded together with the JSA, JLA and Titans and yet all they couldn't win, they also weren't even fighting the entire Kryptonian army. "

" The kryptonians figured in a matter of minutes how to prevent the Blackest Night from reaching their homeplanet, something no one else has even been close to do in the entire universe. The Kryptonians besides being hosts of great power are also the most advanced civilization. In recent issues they have showed the technology to create mountains, oceans, forests, etc. in mere days, along with taking moons from other planets millions of kilometers away without anyone being able to stop it. That's how advanced their technology is.
 
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" @Nighthunter said:

" DC's most powerful magical heroes (Doctor Fate, Zatanna, Captain Marvel, Shadowpact, etc.) all banded together with the JSA, JLA and Titans and yet all they couldn't win, they also weren't even fighting the entire Kryptonian army. "

 Current Fate is a fool
Forget about Superman or the Shi'ar for a sec. Zatanna would be blitzed by Quicksilver and Spider-Man
Billy ok, I'll give you credit here. He's not smart but he is certainly fast and he's tough
 
However you do undertsnad the concept of being out gunned do you?  Some fans failed to get the out gunned concept in Romulan vs BlackAdam thread
 
So Let me explain it
You could take the USA's best Navy Seals, give them a humvee, a helicopter and stick him in a brand new Abrams M1 and give them heaps and heaps of ammo 
These are the best soldiers in the world
Now you put them in smack in the middle of Afghanistan against millions of guys with AKs and RPGs and knives
What happens?
The US seals die
 
They are simply out numbered, out gunned
 
Same happens with Billy vs New Krypton - out gunned, out numbered
Same happens with New Krypton vs A Galactic Empire
 
The Shi'ar Galaxy could be at 1% of its power
 
It would still out number the planet Krypton by over a million to one


 
@Nighthunter said:

" The kryptonians figured in a matter of minutes how to prevent the Blackest Night from reaching their homeplanet, something no one else has even been close to do in the entire universe. The Kryptonians besides being hosts of great power are also the most advanced civilization. In recent issues they have showed the technology to create mountains, oceans, forests, etc. in mere days, along with taking moons from other planets millions of kilometers away without anyone being able to stop it. That's how advanced their technology is.
 
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  Blackest Night has not full played out. There could be some obvious plot yet to play. Krypton also has the advantage of having a Brainiac on their side. No one on DC Earth can match Brainiac's computer head but the Shi'ar have millions of scientists some of which may be near Brainiac's level and many Shi'ar scientists would make Luthor look the fool Again in a battle of brains this is numbers game. The Shi'ar can out smart him by simply having millions of planets with brainy people    The Shi'ar as an Empire have conversed almost as equals with Watchers understanding the secrets behind Galactus and the Phoenix and why these creatures are so imortant to the Universe, this is something no human has understood, even Reed but the Shi'ar evolved just enough to comprehend it, they have played with  Celestial technology which is so far beyond anything on Earth. Messing around with Celestial stuff only Apocalypse, Brainiac and Doom might pull off such a feat, but the Shi'ar do it as if its a casual feat.  Kryptonians may have created moutians and forests but the Shi'ar have created entire Galactic fleets, they have created Dyson Spheres, Accelerated Evolution, they can cloak entire worlds, have created entire Artificial Planets   . "

To put this one to a close, if freaking Nova can solo a Shi'ar fleet, a single Kryptonian can as well.

Is this before or after they blow up Krypton and kill everyone with red sun radiation?
 

@Lance Uppercut

"When do the Shi'ar ever play around with celestial technology on a regular basis? "

" @batdance
 
i wasnt sure how to root for krypton since they are only one planet vs an empire... but they are uber powered each easily the equal of gladiator and two of them could take vulcan down before he can drain just one of them... also i aint saying ever single one is going to blitz every ship but their are going to be some of them blitzing....
 

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" i missed you sesaw!!!  :P
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" Shiar owns, they have the numbers and the tech "

 Krypton would be small fish in a big pond
 
I think we need to clear up the massive tech gap
 
The Shi'ar have sun-fire tech, they can keep building planets that grow to stars or can grab a gas giant like Jupiter and make it a star, they fight a full on massive war with the Kree 2 Galaxies away, that's thousands and thousands of light years distance and the Shi'ar wreck the Kree planets, start wasting them until the Kree empire finally accepts its part of the Shi'ar Empire. Shi'ar later turn their attention on the Skrull Galaxy, send their fleets to another Galaxy called Andromeda and start eating into world after world..this way way back when the name Skurll meant something, they didn't jobber, they weren't refugees and spies on Earth. The Skrulls were once StarTrek like with StarWars aggression. The Skurlls built ships, superpowered champions and had all kinds of powers and the Shi'Ar send ships to screw them up at their best. Fight them when the Skrulls are near their Prime. The Shi'ar have knowledge of time travel their ships hit crazy FTL speed with ease. The ShiAr make their own planets, artificial worlds, they can fire off black holes and waste solar systems.

" have the shiar used any particular planet or solar system busters?
 

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" but the shiar arent stupid so theyd do research not saying theyd win easy but if they figuered out their weaknesses theyd win "

New Krypton would slaughter a few million shi'arians but in the end .... New Krypton falls 

dont the shiar outnumber the kyptonians like 300 to 1?