New 52 Captain Atom vs H'el

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#1 Edited by Frozen (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

New 52 Captain Atom

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H'el

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Rules

  • Morals off
  • Takes place on Earth
  • KO or Death
  • No prep
  • Futures End feats allowed
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#2 Edited by Frozen (21137 posts) - - Show Bio
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#3 Posted by Sy8000 (36011 posts) - - Show Bio

Isn't Atom made of energy? If so, H'el will struggle to even harm him.

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#4 Posted by RealityWarper (12333 posts) - - Show Bio

Atom

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#5 Posted by dondave (41760 posts) - - Show Bio

Atom

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#6 Edited by MonsterStomp (36987 posts) - - Show Bio

Atom would nigh-waste.

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#7 Edited by Frozen (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

@highaccuser: Not sure. But in Futures End he was owning future Flash pretty badly. He bent space and time at a Quantum level to stop Flash. He also manipulated the molecules of the Speed Force. {essentially matter manipulated the Speed Force}.

I'll tag @killemall because I'm sure he'd like to see this feat.

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#8 Posted by Sy8000 (36011 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen:

@highaccuser: Not sure. But in Futures End he was owning future Flash pretty badly. He bent space and time at a Quantum level to stop Flash. He also manipulated the molecules of the Speed Force.{essentially matter manipulated the Speed Force}.

Damn...based on that and reputation he should win.

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#9 Posted by VenomousTaco (1563 posts) - - Show Bio

Doctor Manhattan wins.

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#10 Posted by Cream_God (15519 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@highaccuser: Not sure. But in Futures End he was owning future Flash pretty badly. He bent space and time at a Quantum level to stop Flash. He also manipulated the molecules of the Speed Force. {essentially matter manipulated the Speed Force}.

I'll tag @killemall because I'm sure he'd like to see this feat.

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Holy Hell that made me moist

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#11 Posted by Frozen (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

Doctor Manhattan wins.

Captain Atom came first.

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#12 Posted by Lvenger (36344 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah Atom stomps hard here. For all of H'El's versatility, Nathanial makes him look like a child in comparison.

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#13 Posted by VenomousTaco (1563 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen: I know. Doctor Manhattan and his quantum abilities were based on the original Captain Atom. They were similar, but hardly the same. With the New 52, Captain Atom is now pretty much a knock-off of his own knock-off (with the benefit of more feats), if that makes sense.

Regardless, I stand by my statement...

Doctor Manhattan wins.

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#14 Posted by Kingant27 (16934 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Atom wins IMO.

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#15 Posted by Jonez_ (11500 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Atom

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#16 Edited by MonsterStomp (36987 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoustaco said:

@frozen: I know. Doctor Manhattan and his quantum abilities were based on the original Captain Atom. They were similar, but hardly the same. With the New 52, Captain Atom is now pretty much a knock-off of his own knock-off (with the benefit of more feats), if that makes sense.

Regardless, I stand by my statement...

Doctor Manhattan wins.

Eh... More feats? Or vastly superior feats?

Dr Manhattan wishes he was Atom.

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#17 Edited by deactivated-5b2e798651249 (7245 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably Atom.

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#18 Edited by VenomousTaco (1563 posts) - - Show Bio

@monsterstomp: His feats are only "vastly superior" because he has the benefit of 1.) Living in a universe with other superpowered beings, in which he can truly demonstrate his abilities, 2.) Having fans who won't b*tch every time DC wants to do something with the character, and 3.) Being part of a comic book universe that will continually allow him to develop his abilities through the perpetual acquirement of new and better feats.

...

Captain Atom wishes he was Manhattan. He wishes he could have been part of what is widely regarded as "the most influential graphic novel of all time." He also wishes he had a blue d*ck that can inspire Internet memes everywhere with a single thought.

:-)

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#22 Posted by ComicsrulebutDBZdoes2 (7566 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoustaco: dr manhattan is vastly overrated he is nowhere near as powerful people make him out to be

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#23 Edited by VenomousTaco (1563 posts) - - Show Bio

@monsterstomp: (proceeds to wipe tears from face, delete spiteful message, and burn suicide note)

I'm calm.

:-)

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#24 Posted by Jacthripper (15021 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoustaco: If it's the most influential, why have I never seen a physical copy of Watchmen? I have seen others that I would definitely rank above Watchmen as influential.

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#25 Posted by MonsterStomp (36987 posts) - - Show Bio

@monsterstomp: (proceeds to wipe tears from face, delete spiteful message, and burn suicide note)

I'm calm.

:-)

Lets hug this mother***ker out :)

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#26 Posted by VenomousTaco (1563 posts) - - Show Bio

@jacthripper: Yeah, well don't take it up with me. That's what the rest of the world says.

Btw, "influential" doesn't mean it's the best or most circulated, it simply suggests that it has inspired many other comic books and characters. It means that it played an important role in making the comic book industry into what it is today.

:-)

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#28 Edited by Frozen (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoustaco: If it's the most influential, why have I never seen a physical copy of Watchmen? I have seen others that I would definitely rank above Watchmen as influential.

Go to a Comic Book store. You'll see one.

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#29 Edited by _ANDY_CAN (381 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain atom transmutates h'el to feathers

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#30 Posted by Jacthripper (15021 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen: nearest one is half an hour away, in Newport News. And my parents won't make the drive for comics, maybe next year.

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#31 Posted by VenomousTaco (1563 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicsrulebutdbzdoes2: I agree, Doctor Manhattan is somewhat overrated. He is not God. He cannot warp reality just cuz. He would not defeat the Spectre (DC, not Silk Spectre, lol).

His powers are based on science, and as such, have certain limits in the realm of comics. Sure he has completely control over matter and the quantum plane (more or less), but he is not omnipotent.

...

That said, he is also underrated. This could be a result of or a direct response to his overzealous fans overrating him, but whatevs.

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#32 Posted by RealityWarper (12333 posts) - - Show Bio

@monsterstomp: His feats are only "vastly superior" because he has the benefit of 1.) Living in a universe with other superpowered beings, in which he can truly demonstrate his abilities, 2.) Having fans who won't b*tch every time DC wants to do something with the character, and 3.) Being part of a comic book universe that will continually allow him to develop his abilities through the perpetual acquirement of new and better feats.

...

Captain Atom wishes he was Manhattan. He wishes he could have been part of what is widely regarded as "the most influential graphic novel of all time." He also wishes he had a blue d*ck that can inspire Internet memes everywhere with a single thought.

:-)

:O

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#33 Posted by VenomousTaco (1563 posts) - - Show Bio
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#34 Edited by RealityWarper (12333 posts) - - Show Bio

@venomoustaco: Do you think that Cap Atom is the only one dreaming of this? :o

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#35 Posted by VenomousTaco (1563 posts) - - Show Bio

@realitywarper: Pshh, of course not. The entire superhero community wishes they had Manhattan's wang.

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#36 Posted by RealityWarper (12333 posts) - - Show Bio

@realitywarper: Pshh, of course not. The entire superhero community wishes they had Manhattan's wang.

Beast and Nightcrawler doesn't. :(
Lucky guys. ^^

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@frozen said:

@highaccuser: Not sure. But in Futures End he was owning future Flash pretty badly. He bent space and time at a Quantum level to stop Flash. He also manipulated the molecules of the Speed Force. {essentially matter manipulated the Speed Force}.

I'll tag @killemall because I'm sure he'd like to see this feat.

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#39 Posted by Killemall (19019 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen: Thanks for the tag, but yeah i have read the issue. I do follow Justice League, Earth 2, Superman, Action Comics, Wonder Woman and Superman/ Wonder Woman titles. I do not follow the rest.

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#40 Posted by Black_Arrow (10298 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen: I know. Doctor Manhattan and his quantum abilities were based on the original Captain Atom. They were similar, but hardly the same. With the New 52, Captain Atom is now pretty much a knock-off of his own knock-off (with the benefit of more feats), if that makes sense.

Regardless, I stand by my statement...

Doctor Manhattan wins.

It is funny because I read that Moore wanted to use Captain Atom but they didn´t let him use any of the DC characters. So he made similar yet different character to those.

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#41 Posted by VenomousTaco (1563 posts) - - Show Bio

@black_arrow: Yep. And honestly, I think it was for the best.

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#42 Posted by johnfrank120 (6702 posts) - - Show Bio

Atom.

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#43 Posted by Killemall (19019 posts) - - Show Bio

@dorukesin: He also one shotted Mongul, and was going to blow himself up knowing that he could re-create himself, that was going to destroy Mars , a planet bigger than Earth, as well as a planetary shield surrounding the planet. Martian Manhunter had to trick him in order to use telepathy on him.

I was reading the issue going, there is no way they can re-introduce Captain Atom, at such terrifying power level, as a hero, unless every JLA threat is a telepath.

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#44 Posted by jashro44 (55157 posts) - - Show Bio

New 52 captain atom vs thanos?

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#45 Posted by Sirzechs (108 posts) - - Show Bio

Captain Manhattan wins

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#46 Posted by MonsterStomp (36987 posts) - - Show Bio

@dorukesin: He also one shotted Mongul, and was going to blow himself up knowing that he could re-create himself, that was going to destroy Mars , a planet bigger than Earth, as well as a planetary shield surrounding the planet. Martian Manhunter had to trick him in order to use telepathy on him.

I was reading the issue going, there is no way they can re-introduce Captain Atom, at such terrifying power level, as a hero, unless every JLA threat is a telepath.

Oooh sh****************************t!

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#47 Posted by MonsterStomp (36987 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

New 52 captain atom vs thanos?

I think that might just even things up a tad. LOL.

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#48 Posted by Killemall (19019 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: Atom has limited feat and at the moment a vulnerability that Thanos can exploit. Majority would pick Thanos anyways, beyond the telepathic vulnerability, they seem rather pretty close. If Atom is kept in the same power level, few appearances and i wouldn't be surprised people pick Atom over Thanos, the dude is extra-ordinary more powerful than all other DC heroes running around atm.

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#49 Edited by dorukesin (7421 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall said:

@dorukesin: He also one shotted Mongul, and was going to blow himself up knowing that he could re-create himself, that was going to destroy Mars , a planet bigger than Earth, as well as a planetary shield surrounding the planet. Martian Manhunter had to trick him in order to use telepathy on him.

I was reading the issue going, there is no way they can re-introduce Captain Atom, at such terrifying power level, as a hero, unless every JLA threat is a telepath.

really great but aside all,That Flash feat amazed me most

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#50 Posted by jashro44 (55157 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44: Atom has limited feat and at the moment a vulnerability that Thanos can exploit. Majority would pick Thanos anyways, beyond the telepathic vulnerability, they seem rather pretty close. If Atom is kept in the same power level, few appearances and i wouldn't be surprised people pick Atom over Thanos, the dude is extra-ordinary more powerful than all other DC heroes running around atm.

I see. Is Atom having any more appearances soon?