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Takes place Were she fought scarlet Witch Random Encounter they are trying there hardest to win can the team get the W or will they Fail trying standard gear DD has his suit and this is Black Sky

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I say she wins

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Assuming Black Sky's sword does not shatter on impact, she solos. Danny could possibly solo as well.

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@joshua755: She is just superhuman and then she has the spear. I can see her one-shotting the three.

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@rbt said:

Assuming Black Sky's sword does not shatter on impact, she solos. Danny could possibly solo as well.

This, though I dunno how keen I am on Danny soloing. He certainly has a shot, though.

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#8 anthp2000  Moderator

Elektra is not cutting through that armor, nor is she dodging any energy blasts. Danny can't really deal with anything, ranged attacks, her durability, her reach advantage... and Matt might as well not exist.

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Danny solos, Elektra solos

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Matt solos

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@kevd4wg: do you really think Matt solo or joking if you do Reason why

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She loses.

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Proxima stomps

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Lot of different opinions here

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@rbt said:

Assuming Black Sky's sword does not shatter on impact, she solos. Danny could possibly solo as well.

This, though I dunno how keen I am on Danny soloing. He certainly has a shot, though.

He has the best shot at taking her down apart from Black Sky, I think. Together, its a stomp in Defender's favor.

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Proxima.

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Proxima Stomps, this trio is indeed better than Okoye and Widow with full gear, but they still don’t have the damage output to KO Proxima

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Matt is a non-factor. Danny has to get close to be a factor, unless he's using AOE, in which case he runs the risk of hurting his own team. Even then, I'm not sure his fists would do much more damage than they did to Luke. Black Sky could fair decently but I wonder if she can pierce Proxima.

I just feel more comfortable backing Proxima. She has the ability to one shot two opponents and then can deal with Black Sky accordingly.

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@kingofwakanda: I see what you mean do think they give her a bit of trouble though

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Netflix team, but no one solos.

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Proxima Stomps, this trio is indeed better than Okoye and Widow with full gear, but they still don’t have the damage output to KO Proxima

Proxima doesn't have any piercing durability feat from what I can remember. And her blunt force durability isn't to the point that a chi strike won't affect her.

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You can make a case for Elektra and Danny soloing. They certainly win together.

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@amcu: I'm interested in hearing a good case.

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@kingofwakanda: I'm not trying to make an extended debate. I think its fair to argue that both are possibly more skilled than Proxima. Elektra particularly, but Danny likely as well. From what I recall Proxima doesn't have any piercing feats so Elektra could kill her with her blades. While Danny doesn't have any blades his IF is definitely powerful enough to hurt Proxima and put her down eventually.

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#29  Edited By KingOfWakanda

@amcu: Fair on the skill point, however, Proxima doesn't have piercing feats because she hasn't been pierced. She fought Cap and Widow briefly and wasn't touched and fought Okoye and Widow and only took a blow from Widow's stun baton which she immediately shrugged off. Taking one hit while fighting two highly skilled opponents on two different occasions shows she at least can avoid getting tagged. At the same time she was able to tag Widow with a kick, back her up and overpower her with punches and toss Okoye away. She has experience fighting multiple opponents at once. She should be able to hold her own.

She's gotten fairly decent blunt force durability.

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Plus there's nothing stopping her from just shooting them.

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Still, I'll admit the duo can cause her a lot of trouble and possibly win because no one can prove Proxima has piercing durability and she's likely outskilled. But I don't think either solo. It's likely a close fight.

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@rbt: Elektra has her sword? I assumed it was h2h. Anyway I’m pretty sure her spear blasts can one shot any of them.

Surprisingly Scarlet Witch has very good blunt force durability. She wasn’t KO’ed after being sent like 20 feet backwards into a window, and she got back up like immediately. Any of the characters here don’t have the durability feats to say they can tank a hit like that

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Surprisingly Scarlet Witch has very good blunt force durability. She wasn’t KO’ed after being sent like 20 feet backwards into a window, and she got back up like immediately. Any of the characters here don’t have the durability feats to say they can tank a hit like that

Being sent 20ft isn't that impressive... Black Sky would literally laugh at that...

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@emmafrostxmen:

Elektra has her sword? I assumed it was h2h.

Nothing is mentioned in OP so I'm assuming standard gear as per battle forum rules.

Anyway I’m pretty sure her spear blasts can one shot any of them.

Two of the three here are bullet timers. One is a high-end arrow timer and an extremely good aim dodger. Tagging them might not be as easy as you're thinking. Especially considering there are 3 of them and 1 of her.

Surprisingly Scarlet Witch has very good blunt force durability. She wasn’t KO’ed after being sent like 20 feet backwards into a window, and she got back up like immediately. Any of the characters here don’t have the durability feats to say they can tank a hit like that

Black Sky took a chi strike to her gut and got up as nothing has happened. Danny has taken hits from Luke and AoE from chi strikes and kept going. Neither of them is getting one-shotted by a hit which at best has ragdolled someone 20 ft through a glass window. And that's assuming she can even tag them. There are 3 people here. All faster than Proxima. All more skilled than Proxima. And they start 10ft away from each other. Proxima isn't nearly as fast to take them out before they close in. And once they do, Black Sky would make short work of Proxima in 1v1. Let alone with Matt and Danny distracting Proxima.

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@the_magister: Thanks. Figured she should at least some credit for hanging with a couple highly skilled opponents (some have argued the most skilled fighter in the MCU...). And it's probably not relevant to this battle but I didn't realize she could recall her spear at will. Pretty cool how she yanks it out of Widow's grip.

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@rbt: With standard gear Elektra Solos, h2h i still say Proxima wins

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#37  Edited By anthp2000  Moderator

@kingofwakanda: Marvel.com states she can recall her spear even when someone as strong as Captain America is wielding it.

edit: And I really don't see the confusion around her piercing resistance. She's wearing body armor made of metal (possibly higher level metal given Thanos made it, but let's just stick to the fact that it's metal). Elektra's never cut through metal.

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@anthp2000: Dope. Don't know why I never noticed her do that before.

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#39 anthp2000  Moderator

@kingofwakanda: I think she only did it with the Glaive in the end. But her bio states she can do it with her own spear so.

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#40  Edited By Thorthunder98

Matt is just an annoyance or distraction, Black Sky may or may not be able to pierce her, IF would have to get close to land the IF and not get stabbed or shot on the way in.

The team has a light chance to win but will most likely lose

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@joshua755: Im serious. Hes bare minimum as fast and a lot more skilled so he can dodge Proxima the same way he did Black Sky(though way easier). The only problem is taking her down, but we know her own weapon can do that and I think Matt can take advantage of that

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@kevd4wg: that’s a great point you are definitely right about that

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@emmafrostxmen said:

@rbt: With standard gear Elektra Solos, h2h i still say Proxima wins

I'd side with team in h2h as well. Not only will they land a lot more hits on her than she would on them(number as well as skill advantage), some of those hits would be chi strikes. She's gonna feel those.

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#44  Edited By anthp2000  Moderator

If people are just watching Daredevil or The Defenders and then watch Infinity War, and say anyone here has any realistic shot at soloing, I don't know what to say... A 7 foot tall, fully armored alien, who can leap and cross like 100 feet in a second, tank explosions and almost no sell tasers that were making the Outriders bleed, described as one of the most feared and capable warriors in the cosmos, with a huge arse spear made by Thanos that can evenly trade blows with powered up vibranium spears and shoot large energy beams that can pin down Vision.

That said I think Elektra can challenge her, she's legit. She just cannot finish it, much like Natasha and Okoye.

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@kevd4wg: Wait you really think Matt can solo? I see no conceivable way that's possible. Even if he could get her weapon away from a stronger opponent, she has recall ability.

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@kingofwakanda: Yeah i think he could. And her recall didnt do a lot of good when Corvus got gutted with it

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@kevd4wg: Stop lol. Context. She had been kicked away from the battle by Falcon.

Matt might be able to dance for a little while but he straight up gets bumrushed and overpowered like Widow did. And if he miraculously disarmed her, despite a gear and strength disadvantage, she just recalls her spear right back. He has no path to victory

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Two Chi empowered fist and Black Sky = Dead Proxima.

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Danny solos, Black Sky solos. You could make a case for Matt soloing as well.