Natsu(Igina Flames) vs BSM Naruto

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#1  Edited By Gilateen

•BSM Naruto(Ninja war arc)

•Natsu(Water Dragon god arc)

•In Character

•Location: Tailed Beast Ruins

•Starting Distance: 60ft

•No Knowledge/Prep

•Canon Feats Only

•Win by DEATH

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#2  Edited By AnimeFreak1

Naruto hard stomps

TBB Barrage GG

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Naruto due to speed and firepower advantage

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@joviolma said:

Naruto due to speed and firepower advantage

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A much stronger version of Naruto was afraid from lava.

Natsu vapes him.

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Naruto bodies him. Natsu was underwhelming

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Natsu vapes him

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Naruto stomps the whole guild

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Natsu oneshots Naruto without the kurama avatar and eventually busts through the avatar with Naruto being unable to tag with.

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Leonard in FT VS Naruto thread saying Naruto is losing ? What heresy is this ?

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@woodward said:

A much stronger version of Naruto was afraid from lava.

Natsu vapes him.

Not you too

OT: Natsu has the DC to go through the BM avatar but if he gets tag by a TBB he isn't coming back

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Natsu eats all of his attacks and oneshots him

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BSM mid diff or less

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#16  Edited By Edgelord91

@woodward: a weaker version of Naruto also tanked lava

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@leothegreatest: he was eventually able to tag juubito who’s faster than natsu

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@fanfeatrt: he turns to stone if he tries assuming he can eat chackra which he can’t as energy isn’t equalized.

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Natsu gets a friend ship power up when BSM Naruto is about to kill him and one shots.

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@edgelord91: He tanked it but he couldn't no-sell it. The lava scorched him, gave him minimal burns and Naruto was feeling pain.

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Also, Roshi's lava is much weaker than real lava on top of the fact it has no heat potency feats.

So no, Natsu would vape him relatively easy.

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@goldheretic: I agree that a Biju Dama or Rasenshuriken would one-shot Natsu, but they are too linear and slow to tag him.

Any of them can one-shot one another, but I see Natsu doing it more for following reasons:

1. It's not IC for Naruto to use the Avatar especially against an opponent he knows nothing of, so Biju Dama won't be used.

2. Both of them are close range fighters, and Naruto would get immediately melted by any of Natu's attacks as his heat resistance is pathetic. It's pretty much in IC for Natsu to use his big attacks right off the getgo.

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I love when people make baseless claims.

How the hell is lava not as hot as lava

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@woodward:

You did not just say Naruto's heat resistance is pathetic.......

He has passive heat resistance for not dying to Amaterasu when right next to it

And he even tanked it without a scratch from Sasuke HIMSELF without even flinching........

You know........ flames hotter than the sun......

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@animefreak1: Amatersu couldn't burn metal armor a nameless fodder samurai was wearing, and it couldn't burn Karin nor Madara either.

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@woodward:

1. and 2. Stop with that! First off Sasuke was inexperienced with these eyes so he can 't utilize the full power of them yet. Also, as stated by Black Zetsu..... the flames burn whatever the flames FOCUS ON. Sasuke wasn't trying to burn Karin. And if anything, that's a feat for Karin as even shinobi like Kiba, Hinata, Shino have shown passive heat resistance to Amaterasu by not dying by nearing the flames.

3. Madra tanking Amaterasu is a HUGE feat for Madara. You realize even the Juubi was screaming in pain at these flames right? Madara resisting it just shows how strong he is. That was a weak rebuttal dude.

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Natsu one shots him stomps vapes him. Natsu is not on Naruto's level ever.

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@woodward said:

@edgelord91: He tanked it but he couldn't no-sell it. The lava scorched him, gave him minimal burns and Naruto was feeling pain.

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Also, Roshi's lava is much weaker than real lava on top of the fact it has no heat potency feats.

So no, Natsu would vape him relatively easy.

My point was a weaker version of Naruto has decent heat resistance without the Avatar. which has swatted away flames.

not to mention tanking Amaterasu which vapes metal

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#31  Edited By Gilateen

@edgelord91: He starts without it but he can go in it at any time.

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@edgelord91: When did Amaterasu vape metal buddy ?

Thanks for asking politely.

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the second one is also in the manga

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#34  Edited By Raziel2014

Natsu one shots, if this was base alvarez arc natsu then i can see naruto possibly winning.

this naruto via TBB is only Island+ in DC, Natsu absorbed the power of a Solid Country Level Ignia and mid diff 50% mercu, Ignia stated to have destroyed multiple countries, Mercu lifted the Sea and the size of wood Dragon is more than enough feats.

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@gilateen said:

@edgelord91: No but he can go in it at any time.

In that case natsu. Probably takes the majority

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Amatarasu not killing the Samurai is the inconsistency, Amatarasu one shot a tailed beast and hurt the Jubi both of which have Multi Mountain+ durability with the Jubi being way above that.

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@quincy-q: kankuro removed the samurai from the armor. That’s not inconsistency that’s intervening

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@animefreak1: As much as I may disagree with some of your arguments, don't waste your time on Woodward. His whole thing is cherry picking the absolute lowest showings for any character not from Fairy Tail (ie Naruto being afraid of lava, Big Mom being sub pirate ship speed).

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This is the strongest version of naruto that ignia-natsu can beat IMO(nardo's higher versions stomps this natsu no doubt about that).

I think ignia natsu is country level, for being above irene, and august(whom would have destroyed the country had it not been for plot).

He beat 50% power mercuphobia, the same mercuphobia who casually lifted and suspended the sea(explicitly stated, u could even sea a panel of the sea ground with corals and stuff dry. The author just did a poor job of really showing the feat properly that why that feat gets slept on) in the sky which is a solid country level feat, while stomping mountain(Lucy, Wendy) to island level characters(gray, natsu, erza) simultaneously with only half of his power. Ignia-Natsu beat this merc with basically mid difficulty.

I don't even think this version of naruto is country level(I personally place him at large island - large island+).

Then there's the insane heat that comes with his attacks. Natsu's flame's heat temperature IMO is above anything naruto has dealt with, he would be hard pressed by him emitting his flames alone not to talk of attacking at the same time.

I think natsu middiffs this fight.

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#41  Edited By shirso

Who would have thought Woodward had a bigger boner for FT than for Naruto

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@edgelord91:

He was able to track an Juubito who for one was holding back and doesn’t have much to his name in the speed category either.

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#43  Edited By JOVIOLMA

Juubito > Base Adult Naruto.

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@edgelord91:

He was able to track an Juubito who for one was holding back and doesn’t have much to his name in the speed category either.

I didn’t know he was holding back. And blitzing kcm Naruto, EMS sasuke, And tobirama shadow clone are all good speed feats

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@joviolma said:

Juubito > Base Adult Naruto.

Probably

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@woodward said:

@animefreak1: Amatersu couldn't burn metal armor a nameless fodder samurai was wearing, and it couldn't burn Karin nor Madara either.

Let say Amatersu had a weak heat and overall lava heat lvl is even too much for Top/God tiers of Naruto, where you know that Natsu heat is in same lvl as lava? The lake feat, you could do that even with 100degree lvl of heat with long range. Lucy could touch and hold up Natsu strongest form who also had the strongest heat, nothing supposed that Natsu heat is even above 400degree or better. Lava degree is still something else which Natsu still don´t surpass and I doubt he gonna reach that heat lvl.

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@edgelord91:

I didn’t know he was holding back. And blitzing kcm Naruto, EMS sasuke, And tobirama shadow clone are all good speed feats

He was having an inner struggle which ultimately led to him getting beaten by them. And those characters scale to lightning level feats for the most part and weren’t exactly blitzed while Natsu scales to Quad mach feats.

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#48  Edited By JOVIOLMA

Juubito scales to far above quad machs and so does BSM.

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My point was a weaker version of Naruto has decent heat resistance without the Avatar. which has swatted away flames.

not to mention tanking Amaterasu which vapes metal

Amatersu vaped a 2 inch metal needle, which is not impressive in the first place. And not to mention it's an outlier feat when take into account of Amatersu's consistent track of failure and lack of any quantifiable heat potency. And Amatersu is literally the highest form of fire in Naruto world

So as it stands, Natsu would still vape Naruto if any of his big techniques land. You haven't brought up a single decent resistance on Natsu's heat potency level.

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1. and 2. Stop with that! First off Sasuke was inexperienced with these eyes so he can 't utilize the full power of them yet. Also, as stated by Black Zetsu..... the flames burn whatever the flames FOCUS ON. Sasuke wasn't trying to burn Karin. And if anything, that's a feat for Karin as even shinobi like Kiba, Hinata, Shino have shown passive heat resistance to Amaterasu by not dying by nearing the flames.

Amatersu's heat is fixed unless it's boosted up by an outside force like FRS. So no, Sasuke's experience have nothing to do with Amatersu not being hot enough to melt metal armor of a samurai. Sasuke can't manually control the temperature to begin with.

Depending on the metal the nameless fodder samurai was wearing, iron and steel have melting point of 1,538 °C and 1370 degrees C respectively. This means Amatersu does not even reach those temperatures. And Amatersu has no passive heat feats. So I'm not sure why you're telling me it's a feat for Naruto char for surviving it.

3. Madra tanking Amaterasu is a HUGE feat for Madara. You realize even the Juubi was screaming in pain at these flames right? Madara resisting it just shows how strong he is. That was a weak rebuttal dude.

So blind Madara is now more durable than the Jubi?

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Let say Amatersu had a weak heat and overall lava heat lvl is even too much for Top/God tiers of Naruto, where you know that Natsu heat is in same lvl as lava? The lake feat, you could do that even with 100degree lvl of heat with long range. Lucy could touch and hold up Natsu strongest form who also had the strongest heat, nothing supposed that Natsu heat is even above 400degree or better. Lava degree is still something else which Natsu still don´t surpass and I doubt he gonna reach that heat lvl.

  • Lava temperature: 700 to 1,200 °C
  • Iron melting point: 1,538 °C

Natsu melted an Iron Dragon Slayer (which is > normal iron) since two pre-time skips in BOS.

> Says Current Natsu hasn't surpassed lava heat?

> Says Current Natsu's heat temperature don't exceed 400 degrees.

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@woodward: Amatarasu erased metal on multiple instances you have 1 low showing which is out done multiple times in the series.

Vaping metal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Melting metal.

The metal in ninja weapons is much stronger than normal Iron and Iron boils at damn near 3000 degrees vaporizing it would be even higher.