Sasuke (Naruto) gets full information on Natsu (Fairy Tale) and will train for a week.
Sasuke also could bring his Ninja Equipment
Fight takes place in the chunin exam's arena
Morals On
Fight till there is one man standing
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Sasuke (Naruto) gets full information on Natsu (Fairy Tale) and will train for a week.
Sasuke also could bring his Ninja Equipment
Fight takes place in the chunin exam's arena
Morals On
Fight till there is one man standing
@ratava: honestly with current feats I disagree. He is stomping anyone 1v1 but not everyone at the same time. He'd have trouble fighting all the dragons (there are thousands of them) not to mention if Acnologia gets enchanted by people like Eileen (makes him dozens of times stronger) they could win. Or time stop.
@ratava: honestly with current feats I disagree. He is stomping anyone 1v1 but not everyone at the same time. He'd have trouble fighting all the dragons (there are thousands of them) not to mention if Acnologia gets enchanted by people like Eileen (makes him dozens of times stronger) they could win. Or time stop.
On topic Sasuke stomps a mud hole in Natsu. We don't know just how strong END Natsu truly is.
@dunmer: he said Sasuke stomps a the fairy tail verse. I showed why I disagree with him. What is the problem exactly?
Fairy Tail sucks giving Sasuke an automatic win
My man
Why would the dragons be a problem? Sasuke can just give at least 9 of them the Bijuu treatment at the same time and force them to turn upon the verse while also killing entire guilds himself.
Sasuke has consistently shown that he could fight and hold his own against sheer numbers. The Fairy tail guild was being overwhelmed by sheer numbers in recent chapters and Makarov had to use Fairy Law. Sasuke is so much faster than the entire verse.
In any case Sasuke solos the verse, but I admit it would be a hard battle.
Fairy Tail sucks giving Sasuke an automatic win
My man
@azureus
stop posting stupid crap, sasuke cant solo the verse.
Heck sasuke cant even beat all the dragons by himself, talkless of taking on the verse.
All 10,000 dragons airborne blasting mountain to island busters would cripple sasuke. He never faced that much power in numbers. Plus a fairy tail dragon is almost unkillable without dragon slayer magic.
Also there are characters whose hax would stop sasuke in his tracks.
If Dimaria uses time stop, there is nothing sasuke can do, he's left at their mercy
if evergreen uses her petrification eyes, sasuke would get turned to stone.
Larcade dragneel has the power of soul steal, he can rip people's souls out of their body without touching them
He also has no answer to fairy law, its a legendary magic that would definitely affect him. Because its not based on physical durability
Zeref can also stop time and blast him with death magic.
For all sasuke's power, he's still human and not invulnerable to hax.
So that idea of sasuke soloing the verse is pure bullcrap. Infact its stupid to think so..
@gamingod: I agree sasuke can't solo the verse but then again hax is pointless when the character in question can speed blitz the opponent to hell in sasukes case nobody in fairytail is as fast as him before evergreen can even look at sasuke she would die from just a single kick same with do maria and its also in sasukes character to go sosano if he uses the full form,hax or not they won't be able to touch him as a matter of fact swings from his blade would kill most of them.in his weakest kurama form naruto was able to resist nagato pulling out his soul so do you seriously think rakhied has the juice to pull out full powered sasukes soul.it has been debated in many previous threads,fairy law isn't doing anything to people on sasukes level common dude is it because it shines light,sasukes sosanoo can resist infinite tsukuyomi so what the heck is fairy law.zeref is the only factor because of his death magic and truth be told I have no comment on that but if sasukw gets info on it then he will be able to manipulate his way which is another factor,getting info on his enemies before the fight.
@tiraomoz: don't worry you're not i also agree that current Ft cannot be soloed by sasuke i think he could take down many characters but in the end he can't win imo
Sasuke can indeed solo the verse let alone the dragons. Susanno, Deva Path, and Genjutsu is all that's needed to defeat the dragons. Sasuke was capable of taking down a 1000 Jonin with pure hand to hand skill alone without effort. To add to that, he can easily put multiple Dragons under his control at once. Acnologia, Igneel and the rest would be laying waste to the verse under his control. Not to mention his Genjutsu can also knock targets out for hours if he wishes to. The Dragons are no problem for him, he's faster than all of them, stronger,has a much greater destruction output and can one shot multiple targets with Genjutsu.
10,000 dragons aren't blasting him with some of them under his control, others knocked out cold and others already dead from being killed by their comrades.
None of characters would be able to activate their hax in time to avoid getting blitzed and split in half or having a single Susanno slash take out hundreds of mages in a single strike. Note he can strike several times in the time it takes a Tailed Beast Ball to detonate which far out speeds any FT character.
You talk as if any FT character can react to Sasuke's speed.
Time stop? Jeez, Sasuke would've killed Dimaria long before she has had time to click her teeth.
Without even considering the fact Sasuke won't give her the time to activate it, Evergreen wouldn't even be able to see or track Sasuke at the speed level he is as of now.
Soul Steal? Sasuke would probably blitz him and rip out his soul instead via human path.
Fairy Law? The same spell that has only destroyed fodder wizards and a fodder army that was overwhelming the guild a few moments earlier? The same spell that Sasuke could easily avoid due to Massively Hypersonic+ travel speed with Light speed to FTL combat? The same spell that would do absolutely nothing to Sasuke?
The only factor here is literally Zeref with time stop and his death wave. As stated Earlier Zeref won't have time to use either one. His Death wave can still be easily avoided. Sasuke could easily knock him out with Genjutsu and BFR.
A huge chunk of the verse would already be intimidated by Sasuke's Ocular powers and likely run off. This would literally be Madara vs Shinobi Alliance on steroids.
Sasuke is simply too fast, too strong and too versatile for the verse to handle.
@azureus: tbh the way fairytail verse is right now,sasuke alone cant solo the verse,if this were pre time skip fairytail then he solos but with the introduction of the sprigan 12 and the fairytail members power up and also the dragons he won't be able to solo the verse plus there is also zeref,even though sasukes physical strength,speed and dc surpass anyone in fairytail,he would still be up against too many factor's.dont get me wrong he can take out the entire sprigan 12 together and the whole fairytail guild etc but let's not forget the whole verse includes every villain and guild seen in fairytial verse till date,sasuke would have to be on some planet busting s**t to pull this off and by feats he doesn't have one.
Sasuke could just fly up into space and drop hundreds of Multi-mountain range meteors on them, and attack while they focus on the incoming planetoid. The fact the most powerful guild in the verse was being overwhelmed by sheer numbers of fodder soldiers and had to use one of their Trump cards to win speaks volumes of how they would have trouble handling Sasuke. Sasuke can already intimidate a large chunk of the verse with ocular powers. If he turns the dragons against the verse, which he can with his Rinnegan, the verse is screwed.
1.) Sasuke outclasses everyone physically by far.
2.) Sasuke is a battle genius and can formulate plans and adapt to most battle situations.
3.) Sasuke knows how to deal with situations where he is heavily outnumbered.
4.) Sasuke is very versatile and can dish out attacks of large size magnitude, without it having a large effect on stamina.
The verse have 2 things going for them:
Numbers
Hax advantage
Explain why Sauce can't solo with all this being said.
@dunmer: he said Sasuke stomps a the fairy tail verse. I showed why I disagree with him. What is the problem exactly?
No one in FT is hunging with Sasuke 1v1, and the enchanting argument lol (come on)
@azureus: everything you said is still with the fact that sasuke gets info on the verse,let's be honest sasuke can't just walk up to zeref and try to tank death wave without knowing what it is only immortals like kaguya and juudara can,comfortably do that it just depends on the battle conditions sasuke with prep and info potentially solos the verse but without prep and info I don't think he can
@Azureus.
So all your answer to my points is sasuke speedblitz this guy, sasuke speedblitz that guy, what kinda stupid argument is that?
You talk like sasuke is the flash or something, How exactly does sasuke know who the biggest threat is? You do realise that just sending fodder soilders of the alvarez empire would number in MILLIONS right? How is he speedblitzing that much?
How exactly does he speedblitz 10,000 AIRBORNE DRAGONS with mountain to island buster destructive capacity?
Dude, i am sure you dont even know how genjutsu works cos if you did, you would know that genjutsu works by manipulating somebody's chakra network, Fairy tail characters have no chakra, in other words, genjutsu is USELESS
whether fairy law wont work on sasuke is mere speculations on your part, its a LEGENDARY ANCIENT MAGIC that bypasses physical durability. I dont see how it dsnt affect sasuke who is only human.
But even if he didnt, once sasuke is busy stomping the millions of fodder army that would be sent his way, it leaves enough time for.
Dimaria to activate timestop
zeref to activate timestop/death magic wave
and
larcade dragneel to use soul steal
sasuke has no answer to these attacks.
Oh and stop acting like sasuke already has info on the verse. You are beginning to sound extremely biased.
Sasuke can NEVER solo the verse, especially when he has no info on anyone or what they can do
@gamingod: sasukes answer to do maria is sosanoo assuming he doesn't blitz her,even if she stops time she has no way to break through perfect sosanoo,rakhied isn't doing anything to sasuke who is on par with naruto the same naruto that resisted getting his soul removed by nagato this was in his weakest form so I don't see why you keep bringing up rakhied.now sasuke has no answer for death magic but with info zeref can be realty with.
Sasuke can curbstomp any fairy tail character with ease(probably even the entire guild or spriggan)but no way is he winning against the entire verse. He gets massacred.
The dragons themselves would be a huge problem and there are thousands of them. He also has no counter to brandish or Di-Maria hax. The former could just super enlarge his brain until it explodes while the other can time stop.
@tiraomoz: No, I'm talking in the sense he's bloodlusted. Sasuke will not walk up to Zeref, He'll full out charge at him and no one in Fairy Tail even has the reaction speed to track his movements, how will Zeref activate it in time?
Sasuke isn't the tanky type of character anyway.
There's also the fact Sasuke is highly perceptive. The Sasuke vs Deidara fight proved that. If he sees the Death Wave kill any living things within vicinity, there's a good chance he is not waiting for the wave to hit him.
Plus if Zeref uses the Death Wave in a verse vs Sasuke battle, there is a high likelihood he could kill several allies in an attempt to kill Sasuke with hax.
@tiraomoz: No, I'm talking in the sense he's bloodlusted. Sasuke will not walk up to Zeref, He'll full out charge at him and no one in Fairy Tail even has the reaction speed to track his movements, how will Zeref activate it in time?
What makes you think he'll go for Zeref first instead of, I dunno, the huge arse dragons shooting Island busting beams?
Was only speaking loosely.
Sasuke can still use Genjutsu on the dragons and turn them against each other and the verse itself.
@azureus
did you even read anything i posted?
Genjutsu wont work on fairy tail characters because they have no chakra, genjustu works by manipulating the chakra network in one's body
since ft characters has no chakra, genjutsu is useless to them
and again, you are implying sasuke already knows that zeref and the guys with hax are the people to go after, which is stupid.
Zeref looks like a kid and then there are 10,000 dragons flying above blasting at sasuke, who do you think he would go for? Dragons or some kid? When you debate, apply logic instead of how you want it.
Heck sasuke wouldnt even get to zeref because he would be busy fighting millions of avarez army and 10,000 dragons. There is no way zeref and the rest wouldnt have enough time to prepare their hax to stomp sasuke.
This is a battle sasuke can never win , because he never faced this much people with this much power.
Defeating those 10,000 airborne dragons alone would be a feat in itself, talkless of the entire verse.
Time stop + death magic = dead sasuke.
Sasuke does indeed solo the verse with ease
Not all at once he ain't. Brandish can shrink him to the size of an Ant and crush him or super enlarge his brain until it explodes. Remember, she is not on her own(Sasuke will be more concerned with the hundreds of huge ass dragons than a girl dressed like a slut). He has no answer for Di-Maria and Zeref's time freeze or FL. Kyoka can remove every one of his senses and amp his pain sensitivity to the max. Ninehart can mess with him psychologically by resurrecting Itachi and the Uchiha clan as slaves. Dragons can spam island busting attacks. Mavis has powerful illusion magic of her and might even have better illusion feats than Sasuke. Mest has instant teleportation and memory manipulation magic. He could potentially rewrite Sasuke's memories and turn him into an ally.
1v1 I agree he shitstomps any character(mainly due to speed)but not the entire verse together. He is not blitzing hundreds of people and thousands of MHS flying dragons at the same time. He ain't the Flash. It would take but a second for Brandish or Di-Maria to activate their abilities'
Was only speaking loosely.
Sasuke can still use Genjutsu on the dragons and turn them against each other and the verse itself.
Fair enough
Got any feats for Sasuke genjutsuing people in the thousands? Besides, that is not his go to tactic and he has only ever used it like that once. It's not like he starts every fight with mind control. It might not even work on dragons since they neither made if chakra or created by the sage.
@loklegends
genjutsu cant even work on fairy tail characters because they have no chakra.
Genjutsu works by manipulating the chakra network in one's body. And since fairy tail characters has no chakra, genjutsu is useless to them
I am pretty sure I remember Kaguya genjutsuing humans when she first arrived on earth.
The thing with Sasuke is that he does NOT start every fight by mind raping. IIRC, he usually used genjutsu as support/tactically in battle. Like, he would use it to create the odd illusion here or there to trick his opponent to either get behind them or mess up their timing. Like he did against Danzo, for example. People seem to think he's some Prefessor X level telepath.
EDIT: I forgot to mention Mavis, who arguably has better illusion feats than him, can use FL and is immortal due to the curse
just wanna say something about dimaria and brandish's abilities. Di maria's time stop only works if someone is on or below her level. Brandish's power is the same she couldn't affect on enhanced neinhart with her powers. Just putting that out there.
just wanna say something about dimaria and brandish's abilities. Di maria's time stop only works if someone is on or below her level. Brandish's power is the same she couldn't affect on enhanced neinhart with her powers. Just putting that out there.
Proof?
Who says she can't affect Ninehart? She was able to shrink Natsu and Erza with ease and enlarge his Tumor. She shrunk an entire Island to the size of a rock like it was nothing
Neither of these helps him against the barrage of Island busting beams from hundreds of MHS dragons or mest's memory wipe.
just wanna say something about dimaria and brandish's abilities. Di maria's time stop only works if someone is on or below her level. Brandish's power is the same she couldn't affect on enhanced neinhart with her powers. Just putting that out there.
Proof?
Who says she can't affect Ninehart? She was able to shrink Natsu and Erza with ease and enlarge his Tumor. She shrunk an entire Island to the size of a rock like it was nothing
Neither of these helps him against the barrage of Island busting beams from hundreds of MHS dragons or mest's memory wipe.
Dimaria stated that natsu can move within her "time"
Brandish couldn't use her powers on neinhart( although this could be for a different reason tell me what you think)
So whadda yeah think?That's just evidence i got from those instances.
@loklegends: also to answer you're question about how that will help him it's not really to help him it's more like a point i want to put out that these hax have weaknesses not trying to lowball FT though
@Jaycool2
etherous natsu is a DEMON not human like sasuke. His demonic nature might have something to do with it.
Regular natsu on the other hand can be affected
@loklegends
everyone in naruto verse has chakra, its not just ninjas. Its like their life energy in naruto verse, that's why genjutsu works on them.
Ft characters has no chakra, it wont work, its that simple
@Jaycool2
etherous natsu is a DEMON not human like sasuke. His demonic nature might have something to do with it.
Regular natsu on the other hand can be affected
fair point forget to consider that thanks
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