Naruto VS New 52 Wonder Woman

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Spite. Flagged.

Who keeps making these?

Dafuq?

WW

I don't read American comics but tag me whenever a fanboy makes a dumbass claim.

Lmao

Naruto knockes her up.

Wonder woman

@gaoron: lol

WW by far. I feel like fights like these are a bit unfair. WW was able to hold her own against Darkseid as well as fight Superman a couple times with relative success. She is faster than the likes of Supergirl and GL who are also much faster than Naruto. I also rather doubt that Naruto has the energy projection or physical strength to harm her even if he could manage to catch her.

Naruto should be moon level right?

What are new 52 Wonder Woman's feats?

Wasn't she pretty nerfed compared the OG one?

This is my crack OTP i can't debate this

WW gets stomped.

Naruto still

Except:

• Arthur also 'held his own' against DS
• Everyone has kicked the crap out of superman in New 52
• Supergirl is dwarfed in utterly and virtually every category by Naruto, even debatably strength
• Hal is litterally the worst of the JL in every category in regards to consistency.
• Naruto's energy projection would oneshot Diana as well as a single punch being fatal to her
• Naruto's faster, has precog, and is leaps and bounds more skilled.

Naruto stomps from what I hear

Even if Diana is stronger, Naruto could immobilize her with the sealing ability of Sage Art: Magnet Release Rasengan.

@hope_w:

• Arthur also 'held his own' against DS

Arthur happens to be crazy powerful and also did it as part of a team. WW fought DS head to head and drew blood from him with her raw fist on multiple accounts.

• Everyone has kicked the crap out of superman in New 52

Except they haven't, and WW is frequently compared to his power. She has also fought him while he was bloodlusted.

• Supergirl is dwarfed in utterly and virtually every category by Naruto, even debatably strength

Not even close. Is Naruto fast enough to type a quintillion lines of complex code in the time frame of a blink? Can Naruto punch through those that specifically state to have supernova+ durability? Can Naruto move multiple light years in a few moments? Can Naruto easily destroy moons? Can Naruto punch someone though an entire city and still send them flying? I am fairly certain he cannot beat Supergirl in any regard.

• Hal is literally the worst of the JL in every category in regards to consistency.

Hal is the most powerful GL. He is MFTL consistently and can react to MFTL attacks being thrown at him. He has even almost caused a Speedforce anomaly with his own speed.

• Naruto's energy projection would oneshot Diana as well as a single punch being fatal to her

That notion is just silly.

• Naruto's faster, has precog, and is leaps and bounds more skilled.

Also inane. He isn't close to being as FTL as WW has shown. She is DC's 7th fastest being for a reason. She even eclipses the likes of Shazam and Godspeed, who are both FTL. She is also without a doubt more skilled in terms of combat. Keeping up with/blitzing the likes of Superman, Supergirl, Reverse Flash, and Cheetah as well as deflecting light speed+ heat vision and FTL Omega Beams is also good feats for her.

@requiemcross: WW could just trap Naruto's soul in her lasso if that were the case. People inside her lasso also have no way of escaping. Similarly to what she did to Artemis.

This.(Aside from the Justice League Cartoon that was on cartoon network)

But from the looks of these comments it's looking like it can go either way

If she caught the real Naruto. He could easily deceive her with the use of his clones(Kawarimi). Not to mention his clones could also use skills and techniques of the original naruto.

@requiemcross: The clones wouldn't have any REAL realistic threat to Diana, she has incredible senses and if she has to she can pull a Flash and just bop all of the clones until she finds the real Naruto. I like Naruto but there's no way he can outclass Diana in any category.

@requiemcross: I doubt that would work on WW. I know that PC WW could see truth no matter what. Clones would not fool her. I believe the ability has transitioned over to Rebirth. Besides, even if it didn't, no clone would pose that much of a threat to her. If he made as many as he could, she would likely just deal with them like everyone deals with shadow clones in the series. She could also speed blitz all of them. She is faster than the likes of Supergirl, GL, Shazam, and Kid Flash and is similarly fast to Superman. I do not think that Naruto has the tools to defeat her.

@dimlylitlantern: I would agree, Naruto would have to use the Nine Tails to even stand a chance and even then Diana completely tanks.

Naruto stomps

And WW has never displayed moon level punches.

Naruto takes this Because MM couldn't Destroy a moon with his own power

@deadpooluchiha: Moon level punches? Here, here, and here is Wonder Woman shrugging off an attack from an amped bloodlusted Supergirl with next to no damage. Here is regular Supergirl easily busting a moon as if she was flying though mist. She only narrowly avoids blowing up Neptune. She even states this again. Not to mention she easily punched though the supernova+Cyborg-Superman. Wonder Woman stomped Supergirl with ease in this fight, a consistent showing for her. Even if she, for some reason, used less power against WW than normal in her mind controlled state, WW is still considered much stronger than Kara.

@deadpooluchiha: Wonder Woman has tanked a blood lusted Superman, Has taken on the whole Justice League (Excluding Flash) by herself Naruto has no realistic chance of winning.

Not seeing how being compared to Superman or supergirl helps the argument whatsoever when Diana has a better chance than both of them against Naruto.

New52 = Naruto no diff 10/10.

PC = Naruto 7/10, medium difficulty.

That wasn't Kara that destroyed the moon nor has Cyborg Superman taken Supernovas other than a statement

@reaverlation: It was Kara. She was chasing something, and in that chase, she destroyed a moon. Even if she didn't, she effortlessly one shotted the thing that did making it even more impressive.

Dude, don't lowball. Why would Cyborg Superman lie about flying though a supernova? Especially when he has similar durability to those that have tanked solar system level explosions like Superman and Orion?

@hope_w: How powerful do you think Naruto is? Superman and Supergirl would effortlessly stomp him even in his most powerful forms. Naruto isn't over 1 million times FTL like the other two are in both PC and New 52. New 52 WW beats him while PC WW slaughters.

@dimlylitlantern: Give Diana her lasso and Bracelets and she stomps. She doesn't even need her sword.

Nah it only happened cause of the speed the device went which was near light speed. faster you go equal more mass behind the hit. Kara doesn't have moon level striking power. deal with it

how is it lowballing when you're highballing with an outlier that is nothing more than a statement? Odin has been called omnipotent before so the statement should be taken seriously. Sentry has the power of a million suns despite never showing that power. Feats > statements unless those statements are consist or actually hold value with the characters actual power. When has New 52 Superman or Orion take supernovas or anything close to it? Stop making stuff up to make Diana more impressive than she actually is.

@reaverlation: Make her seem more impressive then she actually is? . . .Diana is the greatest hand to hand combatant on the planet stated by Batman himself. She's been the God of War. Tanked Superman and the entire league by herself BLINDFOLDED. He's not boosting up her cred, she EARNED that.

@reaverlation:

Nah it only happened cause of the speed the device went which was near light speed. faster you go equal more mass behind the hit. Kara doesn't have moon level striking power. deal with it

Even operating under that logic, Kara can move light speed and beyond it. She even effortlessly destroys it in one hit later.

how is it lowballing when you're highballing with an outlier that is nothing more than a statement?

Kara is near Superman, who has plenty of moon+ level feats. While the power scaling alone should be sufficient here, Kara has feats to prove it. When she is implied to be moon+ level at minimum and then flies though a moon, destroying it, it is just a good feat for her. An outlier would be her destroying a solar system with a sneeze with her current level of power.

Odin has been called omnipotent before so the statement should be taken seriously.

Yes, because Odin is directly shown to not be omnipotent. Cyborg Superman is a less durable Superman that still has similar durability. Superman can easily fly though black holes and tank supernovas. It is not out of the realm of possibility to believe CS flew through a supernova with that in mind. That statement isn't as in question as someone saying Sentry stalemated Galactus or something.

Sentry has the power of a million suns despite never showing that power.

There is a clear difference between saying that someone has the power of 1 million suns and someone saying they have done something. Cyborg Superman says he flew thew a supernova, that is a memory and event that happened off panel. Sentry doesn't really have a way to prove he has the power of 1 million suns unless he somehow hosted a competition between 1 million suns and states his power output is similar.

When has New 52 Superman or Orion take supernovas or anything close to it? Stop making stuff up to make Diana more impressive than she actually is.

Well, New 52 Superman is fused with PC Superman who has tanked supernovas. Even if you don't buy that, he has effortlessly flown though black holes with ease while weakened. Black holes just so happen to be more dangerous and destructive than supernovas. Orion has also tanked an actual star system blowing up on him. He is fine afterwards. Kyle even confirms the star system was destroyed because of the explosion again.

Naruto is really out of his element given the fact that WW scales pretty closely to the likes of these characters.

That's fine if she can move light speed but nothing to show her actually destroying a moon

Kara isn't near Superman and that's already the problem. You guys have to stop comparing her and Diana to Superman cause when you compare the feats, Superman is much higher. Show Superman actually taking a Supernova cause Post-crisis did and he was KO'd. People did the same thing for Post-crisis Wonder Woman in that since she's superman level, she can take planetary explosions and supernovas when feats would say she'd be obliterated into ash.

Cyborg Superman isn't as durable as Superman and has only an outlier statement to showcase him being relevant. Show an actual feat for CS doing it or you're wasting time

Just stop. This OP is clearly only saying New 52 Wonder Woman and nothing saying she can use Rebirth feats. Ergo, trying to scale to New 52 Superman doesn't work. IIRC Orion never endured the solar system explosion so I'll probably look into that, especially since Orion hasn't replicated a feat close to this since his Post-Crisis days

1. Naruto has much more Chakra than Clark and Kara (combined) does Solar radiation, much more versatility, much more skill, much more (and better) Combat feats and attacks he otherwise has no answer to.
2. You cannot win this debate attempting to compare Diana to Superman because firstly she has much better Combat speed, much better Combat feats period, is laughably more skilled, and presents a ton of matchup problems with her gear. A morals off Diana would embarrass superman just as easily as Naruto could.
3. Travel speed is cool and all, but since Clark can't go those speeds on the surface of a planet it's practically useless in any scenario Naruto would be fighting him.
4. New 52 Diana debatably can't even tag Naruto, let alone beat him in any category. He'd troll her with Sexy Jutsu.
5. PC Diana vs Naruto is a much more well suited battle, however she simply lacks answers to his comparable combat speed, skill, and precog advantage along with an array of AoE Rasenshuriken.

In conclusion, scaling from supergirl nor superman is going to help you here. N52 Diana is near fodder for a serious Naruto.

@reaverlation:

That's fine if she can move light speed but nothing to show her actually destroying a moon

She flies though the moon and destroys it. Even if that wasn't her, matching the kinetic energy of something that did destroy a moon with such ease is a moon level feat.

Kara isn't near Superman and that's already the problem.

She is notably weaker, but she is not super far off.

You guys have to stop comparing her and Diana to Superman cause when you compare the feats, Superman is much higher.

WW is in question, not Supergirl.

Show Superman actually taking a Supernova cause Post-crisis did and he was KO'd.

Here is Superman tanking the point blank shock wave of a 50x supernova just fine. Besides, being knocked out because he was surprised by a shockwave is still supernova durability. Superman had no visible damage on him. He is partial to being KO'd by things that take him by surprise. Again, black holes are much more destructive than supernovas and he has taken tons of those.

People did the same thing for Post-crisis Wonder Woman in that since she's superman level, she can take planetary explosions and supernovas when feats would say she'd be obliterated into ash.

No she wouldn't. However, we are deviating from the topic now.

Cyborg Superman isn't as durable as Superman and has only an outlier statement to showcase him being relevant. Show an actual feat for CS doing it or you're wasting time

I do not need a feat here. Can you prove that CS was lying? Him having Superman's durability as a reference point is already makes me believe him.

Just stop. This OP is clearly only saying New 52 Wonder Woman and nothing saying she can use Rebirth feats. Ergo, trying to scale to New 52 Superman doesn't work. IIRC Orion never endured the solar system explosion so I'll probably look into that, especially since Orion hasn't replicated a feat close to this since his Post-Crisis days

What? New 52 WW is Rebirth WW. You are just trying to restrict WW now. Even then, why does scaling to New 52 Superman not work? Based on your grievance, wouldn't Rebirth be the one in question because he is technically a different character? New 52 WW fought Superman and other kryptonians on Clark's level multiple times during the New 52. Even if she is considered to be weaker than him, it is not by much.

@reaverlation: Diana has caught an asteroid with no trouble, tanked a sun-fueled blood lusted Superman, beaten the entire League by herself, taken on Darkseid and withstood his omega beams, tanked 3 IMP's with minimal affect. I think you guys are losing sight of what this battle is for. It's not about Supergirl or Cyborg Superman or Odin or Sentry. This is a Diana V Naruto battle and you are not claiming any evidence over why one should win over the other, instead you're just bickering. Debate the battle and keep it on track.

@hope_w: Would you like to have an actual reasoned debate? Since no one else here will?

@hope_w:

1. Naruto has much more Chakra than Clark and Kara (combined) does Solar radiation, much more versatility, much more skill, much more (and better) Combat feats and attacks he otherwise has no answer to.

You literally have no actual way of measuring that at all. This point it completely invalid.

2. You cannot win this debate attempting to compare Diana to Superman because firstly she has much better Combat speed, much better Combat feats period, is laughably more skilled, and presents a ton of matchup problems with her gear. A morals off Diana would embarrass superman just as easily as Naruto could.

You clearly do not read DC comics if you believe this to be the case.

3. Travel speed is cool and all, but since Clark can't go those speeds on the surface of a planet it's practically useless in any scenario Naruto would be fighting him.

Can Naruto type a quintillion lines of code in the time frame of a blink like Supergirl can? Can Naruto repair the entire moon on a few seconds like Superman can? Can Naruto count attoseconds like Superman can? Can Naruto blitz the afformentioned opponents briefly with their feats considered or block FTL Omega Beams like Wonder Woman can ? If the answer is yes to any of these, please provide a scan, I'd like to examine it. If the answer is no, Naruto loses.

4. New 52 Diana debatably can't even tag Naruto, let alone beat him in any category. He'd troll her with Sexy Jutsu.

I'm feeling trolled myself right now.

5. PC Diana vs Naruto is a much more well suited battle, however she simply lacks answers to his comparable combat speed, skill, and precog advantage along with an array of AoE Rasenshuriken.

Hard pass. Unless Naruto is strong enough to throw a planet or catch photons, that is a massacre in WW's favor.

In conclusion, scaling from supergirl nor superman is going to help you here. N52 Diana is near fodder for a serious Naruto.

Haha

@dimlylitlantern: I agree there

the dominator weapon was highly decelerating by the time it was reaching Earth that even a member of the Legion who doesn't have moon level durability took a hit from it. It is far from moon level

I'd like to see Kara near her New 52 counterpart when Kara fought a doppelganger of Superman, she was getting stomped but when the real deal showed up, the doppelganger was stomped back.

And Diana was said to be physically equal to Kara, someone nowhere near Superman

Why are you using Post-Crisis feats?

Nah Diana has no feats to suggest a hit that would level a country wouldn't kill her.

Cause it didn't happen. Kurama, the nine tail fox that Naruto is the jinchuriki of, is said to be able to turn the world to ash via a databook written by the only author to have written Naruto. This holds more value than a vague statement by a character who's shown no feats on this level on panel.

It says New 52 Wonder Woman not Rebirth Wonder Woman. A clear and distinctive version is being mentioned in this fight. If the OP wants to include Rebirth, then that's fine and I won't question it. Scaling to Superman doesn't work since Superman is clearly more powerful than Diana. Diana fought Zod and Faora through her skill alone, which is why she seemed to do well.

@reaverlation: You. Are. Deterring. From. The. Point. Of. The. Battle.

can you bother someone else?