Naruto VS Meliodas H2H
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Naruto was holding his own for a short while against Kaguya Eighty Gods Vaccum Attack, which destroyed Sasuke Perfect Susanoo
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I say he takes this
Naruto, they're H2H fears are downplayed
Naruto wins.
The whole "Naruto characters have no physicals" is a baseless claim made up by downplayers
Mel mid-high diff. Naruto can't even hurt Mel physically without Kurama avatar, so Mel eventually lands a few hits and wins.
Demon King Meliodas can stomp Mael, who is stronger than Escanor, who wasn't even hurt by a slash that cut through mountains/hills miles away. When it comes to physicals he should be way above Naruto.
Unless DK Mel dish out something much stronger than this:
Then he isn't scratching a serious naruto.
Demon King Meliodas can stomp Mael, who is stronger than Escanor, who wasn't even hurt by a slash that cut through mountains/hills miles away. When it comes to physicals he should be way above Naruto.
By that same logic, naruto's stronger than juubito,who's stronger than the juubi, who's stronger than ems madara's Susanoo, who cut through 6 mountains miles away.
Look, TSB blocks 4 Island level attacks, Guy breaks TSB with casual punch.
Kaguya>Guy and Naruto matched her.
By that same logic, naruto's stronger than juubito,who's stronger than the juubi, who's stronger than ems madara's Susanoo, who cut through 6 mountains miles away.
Juubito is not physically stronger than the Juubi in human form.
@alextheboss: Yes he is. He effortlessly destroyed the deity gates when the Juubi couldn't
Naruto, they're H2H fears are downplayed
Naruto wins.
The whole "Naruto characters have no physicals" is a baseless claim made up by downplayers
This. I'm astonished by the amount of people who actually think that Naruto characters have the worst physicals in the Holy Shonen Trinity.
@alextheboss: considering that he broke out of a bind that the juubi couldnt, did more damage to BSM naruto with a slam than the juubi could do to BM naruto, broke a barrier that juubi couldn't, and was stated to have all the juubi's power just condensed.
Juubi jinchuriki aren't like normal jinchuriki that have a base form with their normal stats and a kaiju form with bijuu's stats. They have access to the juubi's full power in their human form.
That was not a physical/hand to hand attack, it was a chakraa attack. He can access the Juubi's full power with his chakra, like how Naruto does with the 9 tails, that doesn't mean they access it with their muscles as well. If Naruto is allowed his chaakra hands I agree he would win.
@alextheboss: Yes he is. He effortlessly destroyed the deity gates when the Juubi couldn't
It's hard to tell if he did that with raw physical strength or with his overall power.
That was not a physical/hand to hand attack, it was a chakraa attack. He can access the Juubi's full power with his chakra, like how Naruto does with the 9 tails, that doesn't mean they access it with their muscles as well. If Naruto is allowed his chaakra hands I agree he would win.
@alextheboss: Yes he is. He effortlessly destroyed the deity gates when the Juubi couldn't
It's hard to tell if he did that with raw physical strength or with his overall power.
he flew up. that's it. Jinchuriki are more powerful than the tailed beast
Naruto didn't match Kaguya in striking at all. For even the brief moment they clashed he was struggling while she punted him away with the utmost ease.
OT: I don't know why characters with multi-mountain physicals are considered superior to Naruto. The guy overpowered a beam that split the moon, scales to people like Guy who could hurt Juubi jins (country+ durability) with just the air pressure from his fists.
Naruto oneshots.
You're correct he didn't match her but he did withstand her which is more then enough for this match IMO.
Naruto didn't match Kaguya in striking at all. For even the brief moment they clashed he was struggling while she punted him away with the utmost ease.
OT: I don't know why characters with multi-mountain physicals are considered superior to Naruto.
Naruto characters weren't mutimountain physically until PS and the like.
The guy overpowered a beam that split the moon, scales to people like Guy who could hurt Juubi jins (country+ durability) with just the air pressure from his fists.
All of these are energy based feats. Tsb was broken by multimountain+ strikes from BSM Naruto and EMS Sasuke's susanoo Kurama. This while highballing too. This is assuming Naruto's 50% BSM avatar is as powerful as 100% kurama and assuming Sasuke's humanoid cursemark susanoo is as powerful as Madara's perfect susanoo.
With that said Gai's punch shockwaves are mountain-multimountain, the direct strikes that broke tsb are multimountain+, and Night Gai is only realistically island-multi-island.
Naruto oneshots.
How? Gai's mutimountain punches did more damage than Naruto's punches. Even Galand has mountain level physicals. Naruto should definitely pull wins with his superior speed, but Mel's physical stats are beyond Naruto without his Kurama avatar. There is no way Naruto is oneshotting.
@worldofruin6: Guys punches are far stronger than multimountain.
Any Naruto character Juubito up is far stronger than Mel.
Guys punches are far stronger than multimountain.
The shockwaves that were nearly ragdolling Madara didn't bust tsb. This means Gai's shockwave must be weaker than Kurama susanoo. The direct punches did bust tsb tho, which means they're at least as potent as Kurama susanoo.
Any Naruto character Juubito up is far stronger than Mel.
Not without Kurama, susanoo, etc bar Kaguya and Gai.
Tsb was broken by multimountain+ strikes from BSM Naruto and EMS Sasuke's susanoo Kurama. This while highballing too. This is assuming Naruto's 50% BSM avatar is as powerful as 100% kurama and assuming Sasuke's humanoid cursemark susanoo is as powerful as Madara's perfect susanoo.
With that said Gai's punch shockwaves are mountain-multimountain, the direct strikes that broke tsb are multimountain+, and Night Gai is only realistically island-multi-island.
PS alone is multi mountain....
This was BSM avatar
PLUS a perfect majestic suit amped by Senjutsu
It's way above multi mountain. those TSB tanked 4 Island attacks.
PS alone is multi mountain....
Yeah, l and Sasuke didn't even have PS. He only had the curse mark amped humanoid susanoo. I think it's fair to assume they are equal.
This was BSM avatar
Even though it was amped with SM, it was still only 50% kurama.
Again, I think it's fair to assume 100% kurama is=50%BSM kurama.
PLUS a perfect majestic suit amped by Senjutsu
Look above.
It's way above multi mountain. those TSB tanked 4 Island attacks.
That's an energy feat, and tsb actually negate Ninjutsu.
Explosions don't work like "it was energy" Blunt attacks are also energy.... The same energy a bomb contains.
It's still well above Mountain, Naruto's Avatar is above Madara's PS which was multi mountain, so Avatar 50%> Multi mountain. Then you stack everything else on it.
RSM Naruto is way above this.
@worldofruin6: why are you going backwards
Juubito tsb are not juubidara tsb
Explosions don't work like "it was energy" Blunt attacks are also energy.... The same energy a bomb contains.
Split durability is a thing. DBZ character have been planet busting with energy attacks since saiyan-namek saga, but didn't actually bust a planet with physicals until DBS. The same goes for every verse. You don't honestly believe that fodder ninjas hurting eachother with punches have physical stats above their Ninjutsu even tho it has been consistently shown otherwise?
It's still well above Mountain, Naruto's Avatar is above Madara's PS which was multi mountain, so Avatar 50%> Multi mountain. Then you stack everything else on it.
You can't prove that Naruto's Avatar is stronger than PS cuz Madara's PS has better physical feats.
RSM Naruto is way above this.
You can't prove it tho. Kurama susanoo and Gai broke tsb, but SO6P Naruto's punches didn't. Think on that for a sec.........
@worldofruin6: split durability isn't a thing it's a thing people made up to ignore logic, Explosions are concussive the end.
Madara himself said PS=Tailed Beast in power. Naruto dwarfs all tailed Beast.
Naruto never punched a TSB. He kicked one back at Madara in his base form.
@abc_voltage: Why would it matter? Tsb are just a fusion of chakra natures. Everyone who can actually use tsb are in the same general tier and it was never stated that tsb become stronger with the wielder. Madara's tsb don't actually have better feats either.
@worldofruin6: they can be in the same general tier doesn’t mean they are all equal juubito is the weakest god tier of shippuden , they scale to the user powering them
@worldofruin6: split durability isn't a thing it's a thing people made up to ignore logic, Explosions are concussive the end.
Are you seriously going to tell me that the energy from a fiery explosion that disintegrates solid rock is the same as the energy from the generic physical Blunt force of a punch?
Madara himself said PS=Tailed Beast in power. Naruto dwarfs all tailed Beast.
He said that PS rivals the Bijuu's power. Both Hachibi and Kurama are Bijuu. That means Madara's PS rivals them too.......
Naruto never punched a TSB. He kicked one back at Madara in his base form.
He chakra punched a tsb staff when he attempted a blitz on Madara after Gai wounded him.
Gai and Kurama Susanoo both broke tsb, but Naruto didn't......
Physically, Gai>Kurama Susanoo>SO6P Naruto.
@worldofruin6: I'm telling you the rapid expansion of an explosion as well as the shock wave are both physical........
meliodas one shots
Naruto blocking toneri strike again has nothing to do with striking strength or physical power he literally just put kurama full charkra into 1 arm to block the attack
normally naruto taijutsu/H2h is building tier, the use of a single movie feat against the entire series + boruto is ridiculous, watching Momoshiki vs everyone clearly shows you the true essence of naruto trash level H2h
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
OT: Naruto stomps so hard that isn't even funny anymore
@worldofruin6: they can be in the same general tier doesn’t mean they are all equal juubito is the weakest god tier of shippuden
Juubito may be the weakest godtier, but he still had the energy of the juubi, which is most of a juubijin's power. Madara and Obito even with rinnegan were both weak af compared to their juubi forms. The one eye Madara that Gai ragdolled honestly shouldn't be much stronger than Juubito.
they scale to the user powering them
This was never stated and it's not backed up by feats. Juubito's tsb still have the best feats in the series. This isn't scaling, it's just an assumption.
@raziel2014: you're a lowballer/troll
@worldofruin6: I'm telling you the rapid expansion of an explosion as well as the shock wave are both physical........
The fire that disintegrates rock is not physical Blunt force.
It was specifically stated that taijutsu was one of a juubi jinchuriki's weaknesses....
How is split durability not a thing?
Am Mel would be enough for naruto in h2h alone any version higher stomps ..my god naruto seriously gets wanked in physicals on this site ..same naruto who dislocated his shoulder by shockwaves along side fodders is supposed to have continental+ lvl physicals what a joke ...the fact that kaguya needed multiple punches to break susano0 shows they're only mountain lvl in AP at best , multiple punches on that lvl would certainly break susano0 ..even with chakra arms naruto ain't even past mountain lvl in physicals...and for those bringing up the moon splitting as a point of scaling can't be taken seriously ..so let's ignore the fact that that feat is very questionable and can easily be seen as an outlier,so let's say naruto is country/continental in physicals via that feat which most people think which he performed in base ...so SM amps him to multi continental,then kcm/BM/bsm would most likely make him planet lvl+ in physicals... might as well make a saitama Vs naruto h2h thread since naruto gets wanked to high heaven
@worldofruin6: please look how explosions work and get back to me.
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