Naruto vs luffy vs ichigo vs natsu 2.0

All at their strongest, manga and anime feats only

R1:Who has the strongest attack

R2:who has the best durability

R3:whose the fastest

R4:who has the best stamina

R5:whose more experienced

Bonus:They all fight each other, whose on top?

Callouts

Bleach:

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Naruto:

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From what I can tell.

1. Depends on how well you take the scaling. But this is either Naruto or Ichigo. Either side’s fan base will tell you one or the other. Ichigo probably has the easiest time hurting the others.

2.Overall I’d say Naruto. But if we go by one section each. Piercing I’d say Naruto, Blunt force is probably Luffy . Energy goes to Naruto or Ichigo imo.

3. Don’t want to touch that one. Based on my opinion it goes Naruto, Ichigo, Luffy, Natsu.

4. Scaling him to the rest of his verse, that’s Luffy no question. The others rely more on outside power ups and refreshers to last as long as he does.

5. This can honestly be up in the air. But in terms of doing things and fighting for a long time it’s either Naruto or Luffy and that depends on what you find more impressive for experience.

@ultimatesage: Also op, I think you put this in the wrong forum. This should be in battles, as contests isn’t a forum used by any these days.

@darthjhawk: okay, I'll fix that next time

@ultimatesage: you can change it now. Just press full edit and change the forum it’s in. Or if that doesn’t work you can have a mod change it for you

@ultimatesage: No problem. And welcome to the vine!

@darthjhawk: glad to be here

Rounds 1, 2, 4, and the bonus all go to Naruto. Round 3 (speed) is likely Naruto, but could possibly be Ichigo. Round 5 (experience) is kind of a toss up, but again, likely Naruto.

@indomitableregal: can you give some feats that shows that naruto can win those rounds

This is gonna turn into another flame war with the usual posters that start it

@reaverlation: I shall not allow that.....I hope:/

Ichigo all rounds

@undre: can you show feats please

Show feats please

@ultimatesage: Cant post picks right now. Ichigo is stronger than kenpachi a guy who can bust a meteor with one swing. This meteor is much more powerful than the ones in naruto because of its velocity. And kenpachi also cutt the fabric of space thats higher than any feat in naruto so ichigo takes it 8n strength easy.

Durability goes to ichigo easily. Ichigo tanked a biju bomb level attack like aizens fragor. And just shrugged it off. And naruto has to summon kurama just to accomplish the same thing. Ichigo shrugged of kido 90 which is like a black hole. Durability goes to ichigo easily.

Speed ichigo also fodder Quincy could Dodge light attacks and ichigo is many times faster than then

Stamina also ichigo who could fight for days in los noches and tybw

Experience ichigo takes it

Round 1: Naruto

Round 2: Luffy

Round 3: Ichigo

Round 4: Natsu

Round 5: Naruto most likely seeing him as the Hokage now.

R1: Naruto or Ichigo

R2: same as R1

R3: same as R1

R4: Ichigo by light years. BoS Ichigo fought Urahara for 5 days and nights continously, and FKT Ichigo fought against Zangetsu for 3 months continously.

R5: either Naruto or Luffy

R1: Naruto and Natsu

R2: Naruto and Natsu

R3: Naruto / Natsu are about equally fast, Luffy is not much slower than N+N, and Ichigo is the slowest of these 4

R4: probably Ichigo, from what I can remember

R5: Naruto #1

Bonus:

#1 Naruto

#2 Natsu

#3 Luffy

#4 Ichigo

R1:Who has the strongest attack

Naruto

R2:who has the best durability

Naruto I dont think anyone else would thank that moon cutter

R3:whose the fastest

Hard to say

R4:who has the best stamina

Probably naruto since he can recharge with natural energy and kurama chakra. Also because of how clones drain his stamina, naruto managed to endure

Several years worth of training in just a couple days.

R5:whose more experienced

Naruto, after the time skip he's the oldest of the 4 and has over 20 years experience plus knowledge from clones.

Bonus:They all fight each other, whose on top?

Strongest attack - Naruto, no competition

Best durability- Piercing goes to Naruto/Ichigo. Blunt force goes to Naruto/Luffy. Energy goes to Naruto.

Fastest - Naruto, no competition

Best stamina - Luffy, no competition

Most experienced - If this is Hokage Naruto then this one should be obvious.

Bonus: Naruto stomps

Naruto all rounds except for 4, Ichigo is the only one here who can fight for months continuously

@rikuyamaha: thanks you for giving your thoughts on the post

@ultimatesage: no problem

@faradaysloth: didn't that feat happen in his mind?

Meanwhile naruto handled the equivalent of years of nonstop exercise in an instant.

@faradaysloth: are you talking about the Dangai Training if so, No that would mean Aizen and Gin took months to torment Ichigo's friends

Please tell me this is bait Sky.

Attack, durability, Speed and Stamina Naruto curbs 1v3

Experience i guess Natsu

@faradaysloth:

If it was all in his mind I dont think it should affect his actual stamina.

When naruto was doing wind release training he used clones to speed up the process. According to kakashi on the first day naruto did the equivalent of 4800 hours of training.

That's nearly 7 months

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Strongest Attack- Ichigo when taking everything into consideration.

Best durability- Ichigo has better durability in all categories.

Fastest- Ichigo.

Best Stamina- Ichigo has fought for 3 months straight while the others have only fought for a couple of days at most.

Most Experienced- This is up in the air you'd have to count up all their fights and judge their training.

@faradaysloth:

"Not sure what you're to get at here...why would him being in his mind change his stats?"

because it's not his actual body, just an illusion.

"Oh so we are doing this... Ichigo gained Bankai in Three Days when it's usual for someone to gain it in 10 Years"

That's not at all what I'm talking about. Whenever a shadow clone disappears all of its fatigue gets transferred back to the original. When naruto was training he had hundreds of clones training simultaneously, when they disappeared all of the exhaustion each clone felt was instantly transferred into his body.

I'm not just talking about being a fast learner.

@faradaysloth: How is it bait? The dangai training is similar to Hyperbolic time chamber training Goku and Gohan didn't actually train for a whole year and Ichigo didn't actually train for months....

@faradaysloth:

It's an illusion meaning he can things he things his body normally cant do like breath underwater.

All 4800 hrs of exhaustion was instantly transferred to naruto. Chakra is made from the users own stamina/physical energy and tires out the user. Back during tree climbing training naruto and sasuke both nearly died from exhaustion because the wasted too much chakra.

How much stamina naruto has and how long he can fight directly related to how much chakra he's using.

Naruto and clones spent a couple days training with killer B,then spent another several days fighting in the war(where he also transferred his chakra to thousands of people), followed by a couple more days of fighting sasuke before he was finally exhausted. Adult naruto has even greater stamina.

Ichigo learning bankia was impressive but it's more a feat of intelligence and skill than stamina

I mean, Dangai and The Time Chamber are different to begin with of what they are. But that doesn't matter, because of course it doesn't mean that Ichigo trained for Three Months during Earth Time, but it doesn't change the fact of how he didtrain for three months. He didtrain for over 2,000 hours. I don't know why you're even trying for this argument, none of what you're saying changes the obvious feat.

@manimalman said:

@faradaysloth:

It's an illusion meaning he can things he things his body normally cant do like breath underwater.

Well Ulquiorra's reiatsu was described as a sea (IIRC) but that's irrelevant, since it doesn't prove that his stats aren't translated.

All 4800 hrs of exhaustion was instantly transferred to naruto. Chakra is made from the users own stamina/physical energy and tires out the user. Back during tree climbing training naruto and sasuke both nearly died from exhaustion because the wasted too much chakra.

Ok...so Naruto passed out after receiving 4800 hours of exhaustion? Doesn't sound like a feat to me.

How much stamina naruto has and how long he can fight directly related to how much chakra he's using.

Ok, but what it sounds like Naruto didn't actually took 4800 straight hours of training.

Naruto and clones spent a couple days training with killer B,

Yet BoS Ichigo could casually do better than that

then spent another several days fighting in the war(where he also transferred his chakra to thousands of people)

Ichigo did similar in the Shinigami-Arrancar War and then the Blood War. His Reiatsu is more impressive since he was discussed for being a replacement for the Soul king.

followed by a couple more days of fighting sasuke before he was finally exhausted. Adult naruto has even greater stamina.

Same should apply to Ichigo.

Ichigo learning bankia was impressive but it's more a feat of intelligence and skill than stamina

Ichigo is dumber than over half the cast in Bleach.

R1- Naruto

R2- Naruto

R3- Naruto

R4- Ichigo IIRC he could fight for days without stopping.

R5- No idea

BR- Naruto

Naruto

Naruto

Ichigo

Naruto

Naruto

Naruto

Saying naruto is faster and more durable than ichigo is quite debatable

@uryuishidasama: how so

@ultimatesage: ichigo has tanked biju bomb level attack and beat light timers

@undre: can you give some feats cause i don't remember the light speed feat

@ultimatesage: auswählen was light speed attack and fodder Quincy could Dodge it. Ichigo beat 4 Quincy at once not even trying. So ichigo is FTL. Lille borrow has light speed attacks and the head captain was causally dodging it. Ichigo is waaay faster than him

@undre: damn, did not know that

What about attacks and stamina for ichigo