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#51 Posted by sladerulez (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

The Raikage has the chakra levels comparable to a bijuu

And his lightning cloak didn't even break when put against a chidori, which has higher piercing levels than any of Mirajane's attacks. He beats her in speed, but they are rather equal in strength. could go either was Makarov Can't even touch Tobi, and Tobi can just go into his pocket dimension before Fairy law can hit him. Tobi stomps

all other fights fall into team Naruto's favor.

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#52 Posted by Westwood_Trevor (1587 posts) - - Show Bio

Madara vs Aconologia = Madara stomp

Hashirama senju vs Gildarts = Hashirama stomp

Minato vs Hades = Minato stomp

Tobi vs Makarov = Tobi stomp

Nagato vs Laxus = Nagato easily

Itachi vs Jura = Itachi stomp

Naruto vs Natsu = Naruto stomp

Sasuke vs Mystogan = Sasuke stomp

Killer Bee vs Erza Scarlet = Killer Bee stomp

Raikage vs Mirajane = 3rd Raikage? Then he stomp. . . 4th Raikage? Could go either way. Raikage has speed advantage and his Lightning armor can tank a Chidori, dodge Amaterasu. Raikage could win, but even Mira is strong, but she lack of speed advantage.


That's a 90% mismatch

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#53 Posted by ComicVine2 (1507 posts) - - Show Bio

Madara vs Acnologia = Madara if current

Hashirama senju vs Gildarts = Gildarts

Minato vs Hades = could go to Minato

Tobi vs Makarov = Tobi

Nagato vs Laxus = Laxus

Itachi vs Jura = Itachi

Naruto vs Natsu = Naruto if current

Sasuke vs Mystogan = Sasuke

Killer Bee vs Erza Scarlet = Erza

Raikage vs Mirajane = could go either way

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#54 Posted by IAmDuck (1159 posts) - - Show Bio

@westwood_trevor: oh happy days oh happy days

On topic

Everything you have said pretty much summarised my whole answer for this thread

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#55 Posted by sladerulez (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicvine2: He'll either put laxus in a meteor, or rip out his soul. He can absorb any jutsu he comes to contact with.

Erza can't touch Bee, he outmaneuvered all of team taka, including the fact that Sasuke had the mangyeko sharingan

hades can't touch him.a couple rasengans would kill him

Hashirama is a Nation buster, and a genius in battle.

Mirajane is the only one who has a chance, but could go either way.

Everyone else from fairy tail dies.

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#56 Edited by RazielGhoul (517 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto characters stomps 9 rounds of 10. The last round is close but i give this to Raikage due to speedblitz and Lightning armor power, speed, durability increase.

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#57 Posted by ComicVine2 (1507 posts) - - Show Bio

@sladerulez: did Nagato use meteor's don't recall that, but he would just blitz Nagato with speed advantage.

Taka was not as fast as Erza.

Where was it shown hashirama can bust a nation?

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#58 Posted by NewWorldOrder (1776 posts) - - Show Bio

Naruto

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#59 Edited by RazielGhoul (517 posts) - - Show Bio

Nagato:

Shinra Tensei

Bansho Tenin

Chibaku Tensei

Magical attacks absorbition

Soul steal

Rinnegan Animals with infinite summon

Ashura world with cannon, missiles, bombs, rockets, mecha body

Naraka world is another soul steal

Gedo Spiritual Dragon

Kakashi used his faster Raiton jutsu against Deva Pain, and Deva shinra tenseid it.

Also eyes connection with Rinnegan Animals, mimicry.

If Kakashi with his faster Raiton and sharingan precog wasn't able to blitz Deva, then Laxus has little to no chance to tag him.

Gildarts defeat Hashirama? Hilarious.

Team Taka slowers than Erza? Hilarious.

Is the Irene's meteor fan speed calc and powerscaling involved in all this? Probably yes.

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#60 Posted by sladerulez (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicvine2: Sasuke was over lightning speed, blitzing raikage, her best speed feat was evading Laxus, And that wasn't even real lightning.

Nagato has more feats and abilities to immediately kill laxus. Like that dog summoning,

The entire battle field of Hashirama and Madara was completely destroyed. that battlefield was far bigger than anything that Gildarts has tanked. Not to mention he beat both Madara and the full kurama in battle, and they're far stronger than gildarts. Gildarts best feat is city level, and we never actually saw him level a city. there's also this thing which is bigger and faster than anything that Gildarts has faced

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hashirama takes this

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#61 Edited by ComicVine2 (1507 posts) - - Show Bio

@sladerulez: Erza managed to keep up with Laxus and lightning is part of nature as well

That battle field is not considered a nation, don't make up things like that, not allowed.

Laxus doesn't even need to use magic he just needs to speed punch him.

Gildarts was fighting someone who is the strongest Spriggan who one of them is capable of shrinking an island and another who can mess with a country. Hashirama's best feats are Island level at best.

Go ahead, fight me, or prove Hashirama can bust a nation

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#62 Posted by TheVivas (19437 posts) - - Show Bio

The thought of Gildarts beating Hashirama "because he fought a guy who's stronger than a girl who could affect an island" literally made me throw up in my mouth.

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#63 Posted by sladerulez (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicvine2: Laxus's lightning is slower than Jellal's meteor, and Meteors are slower than lightning. So, Logically, he's nowhere near the speed of pure lightning. Magic lightning is not natural lightning. there's nothing that's really natural with magic.

Only Island level? dude, that guy beat two multi mountain level biengs. And hate to break it to ya, but He nearly died against acnologia's island buster breath attack. Mountains are denser and harder to break than a mountain, yet he overpowered several mountain busters with the shinsu senju.

Deva path could beat him, Shinra tensei would blow him away and dangerously injure him with the force alone. He outmaneuvered Kakashi's lightning techniques, which has been confirmed that he can outmaneuver pure Lightning, He caught Naruto who was currently faster than lightning, and began to absorb his chakra, What's stopping him from repeating the same process to laxus, Or

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#64 Posted by ErrorOfTheDamned (433 posts) - - Show Bio

@sladerulez: How is Laxus lightning not real? Ive seen people on vs battles accept it as real lightning, giving the characters MHS+

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#65 Posted by BilboBaggins (786 posts) - - Show Bio

If my thread "August vs Hashirama" is a mismatch/spite thread, in favor of Hashirama, for many users...how Gildards could defeat him?

Healty Nagato isn't slow at all. His speed reaction can easily match with Kakashi's Raikiri Hound (that was Deva Pain), his faster jutsu. Reacted to Kakashi Raikiri trap from the ground (point blank).

With his eyes connection can see every Laxus movements.

Not to mention that he was able to grab and nearly defeat KCM Naruto and Killer Bee at the same time. Absorbed KCM Rasengan (point blank) without even look at it (casually).

Also with Bansho was able to grab KCM Naruto.

I can't see how Laxus could win against Nagato, in my opinion.

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#66 Posted by sladerulez (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicvine2: pulling his soul out, Or feeding him to his salamander, Which he can't see.

sorry I didn't complete it

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#67 Posted by sladerulez (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

@errorofthedamned: It was never been proved to have lightning speed. And his lightning was slower than jellal's meteor speed, and meteors are slower than lightning, If he's not faster than a meteor, than he's not the speed of lightning either.

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#68 Edited by BilboBaggins (786 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicvine2: Excuse me but in my thread "Dragonslayers vs Akatsuki" you've said it was a spite thread because no one of the Slayers could win against the Akatsuki. Laxus vs 6 Paths of Pain included.

Why now you says that Laxus can simply blitz and stomp Nagato? He has all the 6 Paths powers plus fuuton jutsu and Gedo Mazo SoulReaper Dragon...and he can use every Path power at the same time, as shown during his battle against Itachi, KCM Naruto and Bee.

Only because he fought simultaneously Itachi, Bee and KCM Naruto this should be a clear win for Nagato.

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#69 Posted by sladerulez (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicvine2: Excuse me but in my thread "Dragonslayers vs Akatsuki" you've said it was a spite thread because no one of the Slayers could win against the Akatsuki. Laxus vs 6 Paths of Pain included.

Why now you says that Laxus can simply blitz Nagato (he has all the 6 Paths powers, wind jutsu and Gedo Mazo SoulReaper Dragon...and he can use every Path power at the same time, as shown during his battle against Itachi, KCM Naruto and Bee.

Only because he fought simultaneously Itachi, Bee and KCM Naruto this should be a clear win for Nagato).

Couldn't have said it better.

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#70 Edited by TheVivas (19437 posts) - - Show Bio

@sladerulez: When has Laxus' Lightning been slower than Jellal's meteor?

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#71 Posted by sladerulez (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

@thevivas: Did you forget that he got speedblitzed by jura, But jura had trouble keeping up with Jellal. When hasn't it been faster than Laxus's Lightning?

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#72 Posted by TheVivas (19437 posts) - - Show Bio

@sladerulez: Laxus wasn't speed blitzed by Jura at all. He charged at him and Jura reacted and chopped at him.

Not sure how that example proves Jellal is faster than Jura since Laxus was clearly trading blows with Jura, meaning Jura clearly couldn't keep up with him at times.

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#73 Posted by sladerulez (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

@thevivas: True, but That doesn't explain why he didn't do the same thing to jellal when he fought him.

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#74 Edited by ComicVine2 (1507 posts) - - Show Bio

@sladerulez: Laxus can smell the lizard, soul removal is proven useless in battle.

Magic is both part of the spirit and nature itself, described that way since the first few chapters.

Besides, hypothetical, why would he be able to eat natural lightning if his was not real, also Dragon slayers can assimilate their properties to their own.

Wood release is kryptonite to bijuu's that's not saying anything for its durability over other beings.

It was never shown if meteor was faster or slower than Laxus's lightning.

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#75 Posted by TheVivas (19437 posts) - - Show Bio

@sladerulez: Why Jura didn't do the same thing to Jellal? Because Jellal didn't try to bullrush him at the beginning of the fight.

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#76 Posted by sladerulez (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicvine2: using lightning and being as fast as lightning is not the same thing.

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#77 Posted by HigherPower (12294 posts) - - Show Bio

Spite madara solos

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#78 Posted by ComicVine2 (1507 posts) - - Show Bio

@thevivas: Jura was caught off guard a moment but then was able to tag him.

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#79 Posted by TheVivas (19437 posts) - - Show Bio
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#80 Posted by ComicVine2 (1507 posts) - - Show Bio

@thevivas: that is very much relevant, no need to be hostile.

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#81 Edited by sladerulez (10000 posts) - - Show Bio

@thevivas: yeah, He charged at him from a farther distance, and still blitzed him. Laxus was merely a few yards away from jura, and he still couldn't speedblitz him.

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#82 Edited by ComicVine2 (1507 posts) - - Show Bio

@sladerulez: he can travel through lightning itself. Even in a natural storm.

Also Jura watched Laxus' fight so he had prep for him

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#83 Posted by sladerulez (10000 posts) - - Show Bio
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#84 Edited by TheVivas (19437 posts) - - Show Bio
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#85 Edited by ComicVine2 (1507 posts) - - Show Bio

@sladerulez: Tenrou Island

@thevivas fine, was just enlightening you anyway, jeez.

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#87 Posted by TheVivas (19437 posts) - - Show Bio

@sladerulez: No he didn't. Jura clearly reacted in time to put up a defense, Jellal just went around it to hit him.

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#88 Posted by TheVivas (19437 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicvine2: No you weren't. There's literally nothing you can tell me about FT that I already don't know.

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#89 Posted by Westwood_Trevor (1587 posts) - - Show Bio

If my thread "August vs Hashirama" is a mismatch/spite thread, in favor of Hashirama, for many users...how Gildards could defeat him?

Healty Nagato isn't slow at all. His speed reaction can easily match with Kakashi's Raikiri Hound (that was Deva Pain), his faster jutsu. Reacted to Kakashi Raikiri trap from the ground (point blank).

With his eyes connection can see every Laxus movements.

Not to mention that he was able to grab and nearly defeat KCM Naruto and Killer Bee at the same time. Absorbed KCM Rasengan (point blank) without even look at it (casually).

Also with Bansho was able to grab KCM Naruto.

I can't see how Laxus could win against Nagato, in my opinion.

Simple. Because Hashirama godstomp Gildarts. Currently Hashirama could almost solos the verse.

Simple. Laxus can't defeat Nagato 'cause Nagato is too versatile for him.


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#90 Posted by Westwood_Trevor (1587 posts) - - Show Bio

Smells like another thread ruined. . . sooner or later.

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#91 Edited by ComicVine2 (1507 posts) - - Show Bio

@thevivas: Jura clearly tagged him after being shocked for a moment of surprise.

After going around his wall, Jura did not even got phased as he sent rocks against Jellal.

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#92 Posted by TheVivas (19437 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicvine2: I never said Jura didn't tag Jellal. What the hell are you talking about? Stop budding into other people's conversations thinking you're helping or providing additional info. You're not.

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#94 Edited by ComicVine2 (1507 posts) - - Show Bio

@thevivas: well pardon me, I was just saying what happened in the manga.

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#95 Posted by BilboBaggins (786 posts) - - Show Bio
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#96 Edited by ComicVine2 (1507 posts) - - Show Bio

@bilbobaggins: The Akatsuki defeats the Dragon Slayers by out numbering them.

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#97 Posted by TheVivas (19437 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicvine2: Which was useless shit because that had nothing to do with the discussion. Stop wasting my time.

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#98 Edited by ComicVine2 (1507 posts) - - Show Bio

@thevivas: whatever, jeez, don't even bother replying to this

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#99 Posted by BilboBaggins (786 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicvine2: but Laxus was against 6 Paths of Pain and Konan. Not the entire Akatsuki. Same for the other Slayers 'cause this is how Akatsuki works, as a team.

If Laxus can't win against the 6 Paths and Konan he can't win against Healthy Nagato. He's the 6 Paths + other abilities in 1 person. And he can use those powers better and at the same time. Deva was able to dodge 2 Naruto clones and a point blank Rasenshuriken in less then 1 second by feats.

Deva countered Kakashi's Hound Raikiri and others.

Again Nagato grabbed KCM Naruto and Bee at the same time with easy.

This is totally against Laxus.

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#100 Posted by ComicVine2 (1507 posts) - - Show Bio

@bilbobaggins: Laxus was technically fighting 7 people at once, but that's besides the point, while here Laxus can better fight with only one opponent and he doesn't slow or weak.