R1 - stat equalized
R2 - in-character
R3 - bloodlusted but Beerus cannot use hakai
edit - some people are not reading correctly stats equalized, beerus cannot one-shot the planet or use any god of destriuction techniquesz
@kasya_carey: sauke is sasukes brother who had a relationship with sasukes mom
@hyoname: wait hold up
Oh boy.....
Yeah, obviously this is bait and beerus wins
Beerus stomps verse
stat equalized and also no hakai bs
stat equalized mean no stupid destroying the planet
How the fuck does Beerus beat anyone with equal stats? The fuck are you people on?
Hakai gg ? Plus Sakura is fodder here equal stats or not
@omega7373663: Gets burned by Amaterasu, overwhelmed by shadow clones, hit with Truth Seeking Orbs, etc. And the OP literally says he cannot use Hakai on top of that (not that it would help really). None of you know what the hell you're talking about. Just blind DB fanboyism. You people were so eager to ride Beerus that you didn't even bother to read the OP's rules due to how fast you wanted to go to write comments on why Beerus is stronk and doesn't afraid of anything.
Naruto sucks and so does its fanbase, but DB's fanbase is just built different and is on a whole other level of insane.
@omega7373663: Gets burned by Amaterasu, overwhelmed by shadow clones, hit with Truth Seeking Orbs, etc. And the OP literally says he cannot use Hakai on top of that (not that it would help really). None of you know what the hell you're talking about. Just blind DB fanboyism. You people were so eager to ride Beerus that you didn't even bother to read the OP's rules due to how fast you wanted to go to write comments on why Beerus is stronk and doesn't afraid of anything.
Naruto sucks and so does its fanbase, but DB's fanbase is just built different and is on a whole other level of insane.
Gets burned by Amaterasu, overwhelmed by shadow clones, hit with Truth Seeking Orbs,
And as I said beerus just Hakai
overwhelmed by shadow clones
Beerus can literally creat clones of himself plus shadow clones are literally weaker than the main user, this should be common knowledge already
And the OP literally says he cannot use Hakai on top of that
OP didn't allow Hakai only in round 3 and even then Beerus far more skilled than any of them
not that it would help really
It will help him one shot everyone here
None of you know what the hell you're talking about
The same can be said for you really
Just blind DB fanboyism
Considering you failed to read the OP rules is already a proof that you are blind
You people were so eager to ride Beerus that you didn't even bother to read the OP's rules due to how fast you wanted to go to write comments on why Beerus is stronk and doesn't afraid of anything.
Ironic coming from you who made the exact same mistake
@omega7373663: And as I said beerus just Hakai
Hakai doesn't work on people with relative power. And Beerus is getting overwhelmed before he even uses it. Amaterasu is quicker to activate than Hakai. And Hakai can be dodged.
Beerus can literally creat clones of himself plus shadow clones are literally weaker than the main user, this should be common knowledge already
I never said they were equal. I said they were generally relative, outside of their durability. Enough to be relevant still.
OP didn't allow Hakai only in round 3 and even then Beerus far more skilled than any of them
And yet none of you mentioned round 3. How convenient.
It will help him one shot everyone here
He immediately starts screaming in pain as he is set ablaze by Sasuke simply looking at him, to which be burns to death horribly. And this is ignoring that Naruto would be overwhelming him with shadow clones in the process.
Considering you failed to read the OP rules is already a proof that you are blind
No, only you people failed to read it.
@omega7373663: And as I said beerus just Hakai
Hakai doesn't work on people with relative power.
Where was that ever stated?
@rockbardock: You mean when was this ever shown? When characters literally tank destruction energy if they are strong enough. Frieza, Vegeta against Toppo, etc.
Equal stats, unlike it's original intention, became a lame excuse for people to freerly wank their favourites characters against others than can instantly destroy them, and somehow leave with the dignity of having a legitimate debate from where normally it would be smoke levels of cope. Futhermore, stats equalized is that, equal stats for everyone, not to ban Beerus of using his Hakai, his hax or any of his godly techniques as the creator of the thread clarified, and at the same time allowing the Naruto's trio to have all of their powers, is obviously made up to force one scenario where Beerus would lose, and that's is no even Beerus, since literally ALL of him has been taken away for the sake of the thread's intentions so he is more than a humanoid purple Cat.
With actual equal stats, Beerus still wins though, he simply power-ups his destructive Ki and Hakais the whole place.
So yeah, Beerus's hakai is tanked because it's fodder-tier existence erasure that gets negated by relative or higher levels of power, which hurts him in stats equalized matches, on top of the fact he just gets burned alive by Sausage looking at him before he even does anything if we want to pretend they all start with their best moves instantly (they don't). Beerus has never started with Hakai other than one time.
DB fans are so obsessed with never taking Ls that they can't even concede in a stats equalized match. Like, why do you even care? It's not like stat-equalized matches are proper representations of the characters anyways. We all know Beerus wins normally.
If it all makes you feel better, at least Naruto sucks even harder as a series than DB due to its asinine messages, plot holes, and batshit insane protagonist that is delusional. Doesn't change the fact that these three win in a stat-equalized fight.
Edit: To clarify, my issue here is that everyone is saying Beerus stomps, ignoring the fact round 1 literally says stats equalized. They conveniently ignore this.
As for the other rounds, it depends on the intention of the OP. Do the other rounds carry over traits from the previous rounds, now just with added stipulations? Or do the rules of the other rounds not carry over? Even if it's the latter, everyone conveniently ignores the first one and act as if it's just a normal battle. It's cope either way. And OP needs to properly clarify his posts.
Equal stats, unlike it's original intention, became a lame excuse for people to freerly wank their favourites characters against others than can instantly destroy them, and somehow leave with the dignity of having a legitimate debate from where normally it would be smoke levels of cope...
+10 gigachad points for speaking fax
OT: Beerus xeeleemassacres round 2 and 3, 1 is slightly closer
@rockbardock: You mean when was this ever shown? When characters literally tank destruction energy if they are strong enough. Frieza, Vegeta against Toppo, etc.
Yes but that just means that they are resistence to it not that the attack can't affect people more powerful.
@rockbardock: Wrong, because resistance to the attack comes from the higher power level itself. If it was just complete and proper immunity, their power level wouldn't matter at all.
@rockbardock: Wrong, because resistance to the attack comes from the higher power level itself. If it was just complete and proper immunity, their power level wouldn't matter at all.
Yes and their powerlevel was never stated to matter to tanking Hakai. Infact Goku tanked Hakai on his base form. Base Goku and Golden Frieza struggled almost equally to a ball of Hakai which shouldn't be the case if you are arguing that power mattered.
Second proof being from the manga when Goku almost Hakaied merged Zamasu who went toe to toe against blue Vegito. Merged Zamasu>>>>>>Goku and still goku almost managed to Hakai him.
@rockbardock: Then why is it that Hakai only works on people weaker than someone? The answer is obvious.
Base Goku and Golden Frieza struggled almost equally to a ball of Hakai which shouldn't be the case if you are arguing that power mattered.
In your own words, you admitted that they struggled with it. If they struggled with it, that means there was a power contest going on, as there would be no struggling if it was just outright immunity. As for why they struggled equally, that's one of many inconsistencies in DBS, like Blue Goku overpowering Zamasu in a beam struggle. Doesn't change the fact that both Goku and Frieza struggled though.
As for the manga, that's a different continuity. If you want to use that, then that may work. But the assumed version is anime, unless specified otherwise. Beerus should lose regardless though with stats equalized. He stomps without this of course.
In your own words, you admitted that they struggled with it. If they struggled with it, that means there was a power contest going on, as there would be no struggling if it was just outright immunity.
Them struggling is not proof of anything. They can be fully immune and still struggle to the energy and force Hakai carries. As stated, the attak is called "ball of hakai energy" so it does have force to it on top of its destructive capability.
As for why they struggled equally, that's one of many inconsistencies in DBS, like Blue Goku overpowering Zamasu in a beam struggle. Doesn't change the fact that both Goku and Frieza struggled though.
Yes but those other inconsistenses can be ignored due to sufficient amount of data supporting the contrary where as in this case you have no established statment to base your speculations on, the only feat/statment that exist about this matter is one that contradicts the points you tried to prove.
As for the manga, that's a different continuity. If you want to use that, then that may work. But the assumed version is anime, unless specified otherwise. Beerus should lose regardless though with stats equalized. He stomps without this of course.
I am not trying to use the manga, i was just trrying to imply that your claim couldn't have been based on a factual statment from from either the manga or anime.
@rockbardock: Interesting argument. I will genuinely give you A for effort on that compared to everyone else, but it doesn't quite add up still. Why was Toppo's destruction energy hyped and feared if everyone was immune to it? Why did it negate Frieza's puny finger beam with its erasure, but not Frieza himself? The only explanation is because Frieza himself overall contains more energy than a small portion of his energy exerted through his finger. The latter was not strong enough to resist destruction energy, while the former was.
Furthermore, Frieza was consumed by the ball of destruction from Toppo entirely, yet survived. Destruction energy is just another type of ki, with it having the property of existence erasure of the opponent is weak enough. Hell, Frieza literally negated one by throwing a rock at it.
@rockbardock:Why was Toppo's destruction energy hyped and feared if everyone was immune to it?
The only people with resistence to Hakai are Goku, Frieza, Vegeta and android 17 as far as i remember. Anyone touched by it is literally toasted.
Why did it negate Frieza's puny finger beam with its erasure, but not Frieza himself? The only explanation is because Frieza himself overall contains more energy than a small portion of his energy exerted through his finger. The latter was not strong enough to resist destruction energy, while the former was.
Because Hakai has the ability to erase even energy it self. Frieza has a physical body which is resistant to Hakai, that doesn't mean his energy is. I mean we literally saw Hakai erase a universal level energy.
Furthermore, Frieza was consumed by the ball of destruction from Toppo entirely, yet survived.
Frieza survived a Hakai that was able to warp time-space itself. It means his durability is out of this world.
Destruction energy is just another type of ki, with it having the property of existence erasure of the opponent is weak enough. Hell, Frieza literally negated one by throwing a rock at it.
Again, more speculations with 0 proof. It was never sated to be that way. Do you even hear yourself? "the property of existence erasure against the weaker", wtf would the point be if it only works against people weaker than you? An attack that erases people on the physical and spiritual realm bypasses regular durability. There are several characters who can tank that attack not just db. And when they do its usually accepted that they have resistence to it unless stated otherwise.
Its like me saying TSO, Amaterasu and Genjutsu wont work on people stronger than you with no proof.
Hell, Frieza literally negated one by throwing a rock at it.
When did that happen?
@rockbardock: Because Hakai has the ability to erase even energy it self. Frieza has a physical body which is resistant to Hakai, that doesn't mean his energy is. I mean we literally saw Hakai erase a universal level energy.
So it cannot erase physical bodies, or struggles to much more? That's not really helpful here in this battle too much.
Frieza survived a Hakai that was able to warp time-space itself. It means his durability is out of this world.
Warping space-time isn't really a raw power feat. And the way it "warped" it was in no significant way or noticeably impressive level.
Again, more speculations with 0 proof. It was never sated to be that way. Do you even hear yourself? "the property of existence erasure against the weaker", wtf would the point be if it only works against people weaker than you?
Zero proof? You mean direct feats? And it's literally an energy type. We know this because it's called "destruction energy."
As for what the point of it would be to erase people weaker than you, Idk, maybe for a slightly easier win? It's not like DBS is a coherent story with coherent metaphysical systems. It can't even get linear power structures consistent. Take it up with the writers.
An attack that erases people on the physical and spiritual realm bypasses regular durability.
Well, clearly enough metaphysical power, aka ki that is generated from the soul can overpower this ability. It doesn't bypass durability entirely. Metaphysical energy can negate it if it is relative in power to the user of Hakai. Idk why this wouldn't extend to Chakra.
There are several characters who can tank that attack not just db. And when they do its usually accepted that they have resistence to it unless stated otherwise.
Most series don't have existence erasure getting negated by stronger energy flexing, so resisting it is a matter of immunity, not flexing some higher level of spiritual energy. Any other series that has such things that work like this will be criticized by me equally as much.
Its like me saying TSO, Amaterasu and Genjutsu wont work on people stronger than you with no proof.
As far as I remember, none of these have explicit feats of getting negated by someone flexing stronger metaphysical energy, unlike Hakai.
When did that happen?
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Beerus seals with his unknown sealing technique. GG.
Beerus can also simply power up by a HUGE AMOUNT since Dragon Ball characters can use power in bursts.
Beerus DESTROYS the Trio with no difficulty at all. The OP was trying hard to make Beerus lose. Lol.
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