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Posted by LimitlessSigil (2237 posts) 1 month, 17 days ago

Poll: Naruto Runs The DBZ Gauntlet (64 votes)

Doesn't get past round 1 28%
Stops at round 2 8%
Stops at round 3 11%
Stops at round 4 5%
Stops at round 5 13%
Stops at round 6 9%
Stops at round 7 3%
Stops at round 8 5%
Stops at round 9 2%
Stops at round 10 2%
Stops at round 11 3%
Stops at round 12 3%
Stops at round 13 2%
Stops at round 14 0%
Stops at round 15 0%
Stops at round 16 2%
Stops at round 17 0%
Stops at round 18 0%
Stops at round 19 0%
Clears 6%
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Rules

Current Adult Naruto

Everyone is in character but determined to win

Everyone has access to all of their respective canon forms and abilities

Location

Empty Earth with no other Humans on it at all
Empty Earth with no other Humans on it at all

Round 1

Krillin during his fight with Nappa/Saiyan Saga
Krillin during his fight with Nappa/Saiyan Saga

Round 2

Gohan Permanently Enraged During His Fight With Nappa
Gohan Permanently Enraged During His Fight With Nappa

Round 3

Piccolo Saiyan Saga
Piccolo Saiyan Saga

Round 4

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Round 5

Saiyan Saga Goku Limited to Kaioken X2
Saiyan Saga Goku Limited to Kaioken X2

Round 6

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Round 7

Saiyan Saga Goku Can Use Kaioken X4
Saiyan Saga Goku Can Use Kaioken X4

Round 8

Ginyu Fight Vegeta Perfect Health No Injuries
Ginyu Fight Vegeta Perfect Health No Injuries

Round 9

Arrival at Namek Goku Limited To Base
Arrival at Namek Goku Limited To Base

Round 10

Captain Ginyu
Captain Ginyu

Round 11

Namek Saga Goku Kaioken X2
Namek Saga Goku Kaioken X2

Round 12

First Form Frieza
First Form Frieza

Round 13

Second Form Frieza
Second Form Frieza

Round 14

Base Goku Frieza Fight
Base Goku Frieza Fight

Round 15

Goku Kaioken X10 Frieza Fight
Goku Kaioken X10 Frieza Fight

Round 16

Goku Kaioken X20 Frieza Fight
Goku Kaioken X20 Frieza Fight

Round 17

100% Final Form Frieza
100% Final Form Frieza

Round 18

Namek Saga SSJ Goku
Namek Saga SSJ Goku

Round 19

Android 17 From Android Saga
Android 17 From Android Saga

Round 20

Super Perfect Cell
Super Perfect Cell

How far does he go and Why?

Bonus

Naruto Runs the Gauntlet with Current Adult Sasuke

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#2 Posted by Oreoghoul (1649 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at one of the Frieza forms

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#3 Posted by LimitlessSigil (2237 posts) - - Show Bio
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#4 Posted by Oreoghoul (1649 posts) - - Show Bio

@oreoghoul: 1st 2nd or final?

I'm not too sure. I'd like to see what others have to say first, but personally speaking I think he can get up to Final Form where he loses.

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#5 Posted by SkySanji (3412 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at one of the Frieza forms

This

Why is Round 20 on here?

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#6 Posted by LimitlessSigil (2237 posts) - - Show Bio

@skysanji: thenewguysnm1 said he can make a case for Naruto clearing till the Buu Arc so I thought it would be fine to include him.

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#7 Posted by AlexTheBoss (15733 posts) - - Show Bio

Piccolo is the first one where I think Naruto might lose, as he has the DC and intelligence to pull it off, but I think Naruto's speed and strength give him the edge.

I think he beats Nappa due to Nappa just being a brute.

He has a high chance of stopping at kaioken x2 Goku or Saiyan saga Vegeta. If he can get past them I think he can get past kaioken x4 Goku as well due to the strain it puts on Goku.

Should definitely stop by Ginyu saga Vegeta or Goku.

So stops somewhere between 3-9. I guess I'll say stop at 6 due to Vegeta's ruthless nature, possible planet level galic gun, and great ape form he can turn into if he starts to lose.

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#9 Edited by LimitlessSigil (2237 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss: Thanks for the detailed response.

I made this thread to hopefully narrow down where exactly Naruto would be placed in the DBZverse but the opinions vary a lot.

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#10 Posted by IndomitableRegal (15074 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm. What Nappa has in brute strength, he negates with his sheer stupidity. I think he stops somewhere between 5-7.

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#11 Posted by DeathHero61 (18477 posts) - - Show Bio

With an open mind, I can see Naruto reaching Frieza but getting absolutely slaughtered. Simple as that.

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#12 Posted by Skrskr (3123 posts) - - Show Bio

Anywhere from 3-12

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#13 Posted by Scythenger (491 posts) - - Show Bio

he stops at 5

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#14 Posted by AlexTheBoss (15733 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss: Thanks for the detailed response.

I made this thread to hopefully narrow down where exactly Naruto would be placed in the DBZverse but the opinions vary a lot.

This is how I see it

Most Kages, Orochimaru, Jiraiya, <=> 22nd Tien/Roshi/Goku,Tao pai pai, Crane, Piccolo's children (multi city block to town level with impressive physicals)

Pain/Nagato, KCM Naruto, EMS Sasuke<=>King Piccolo/Goku, BOZ Tien/Krillin (city to city+ level)

EMS Madara, Hashirama, BM Naruto/Minato<=> 23rd Goku/Piccolo (multi mountain - island level)

sage mode rinnegan Madara with Hashirama cells<=> BOZ Goku/Piccolo (Goku and Piccolo have DC advantage since they can charge up a moon level attack, but Madara has physicals and hax, but he would probably be a bit below them)

10 tails<=>Raditz (both can devastate the planet in a quick amount of time)

Juubito, Toneri <=> saiayn saga Piccolo/Nappa (Toneir's casual moon slice is about as good as Nappa's casual country bust, and Toneri and Juubito have the speed and hax to keep up with them)

six paths teen Naruto/Sasuke <=> saiyan saga Goku (here because they are above the others)

Juubidara/adult Naruto/Sasuke<=>saiyan saga Vegeta up to Recoome level if lucky (Vegeta's statement puts him at least planet surface to small planet level, and Madara covered the planet with his infinite tsukiyome, Naruto and Sasuke have some really good physical striking feats and should be at least around if not above Madara at this point, Madara's immortality also helps him a lot, but I don't see them beating anything above the Ginyu force)

Kaguya<=>when it comes to raw DC she is probably equivalent to saiyan saga Vegeta since they both have planetary statements, but her hax makes me think nobody below first form Frieza can put her down.

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#15 Posted by Omega_kai (3072 posts) - - Show Bio

Where‘s Raditz? Because that’s where he stops at.

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#16 Edited by ourmanuel (8160 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at anyone who can bust a country-multiple countries.

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#17 Posted by LimitlessSigil (2237 posts) - - Show Bio
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#19 Posted by reaverlation (25492 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably the androids

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#20 Posted by Gaoron (7664 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops anywhere from 3 to 8. It depends on how each fight goes, Naruto can get one shotted by a blast from anyone so it all depends how smart he fights. Ginyu fight Vegeta is when Naruto has near no chance of winning.

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#21 Posted by ourmanuel (8160 posts) - - Show Bio

Tbh he could stop at one.

Any hit from anyone here could kill him so he’ll have to fight smart with his shadow clones.

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#22 Posted by FireStarLord73194 (4240 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at piccolo

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#23 Edited by Hope_w (2353 posts) - - Show Bio

*walks in, tips hat and takes usual seat at the end of bar next to a shadowy figure*

Since Sasuke stomps frieza....... Naruto can beat the golden power ranger himself. This is definitely on my To-do list CaV wise if anyone is feeling frisky. Stops at 19.

Oh...with Sasuke they clear btw.

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#24 Posted by JuzaCloud (3342 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 1

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#26 Posted by Kratosx64x (1124 posts) - - Show Bio

I would give him with a lot of doubt 10. 10 is where he stops 100%. I would say he stop realisticly at 8

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#28 Posted by vegetasan (465 posts) - - Show Bio

Where‘s Raditz? Because that’s where he stops at.

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#29 Edited by Scythenger (491 posts) - - Show Bio

I honestly don't think naruto makes it pass ss piccolo. Kk x2 goku demolishes naruto though.

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#30 Edited by Easternwind (4590 posts) - - Show Bio

He stops at one.

Krillin was able to kill multiple Saibamen with one attack, the same Saibamen who are Raditz level, someone who could tank a small planet level attack to the face casually.

Edit: With Sasuke he could prolly get a bit further with Genjutsu and Telefrag hax. But they would eventually get blitzed.

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#31 Posted by LimitlessSigil (2237 posts) - - Show Bio

He stops at one.

Krillin was able to kill multiple Saibamen with one attack, the same Saibamen who are Raditz level, someone who could tank a small planet level attack to the face casually.

Where‘s Raditz? Because that’s where he stops at.

@hope_w said:

*walks in, tips hat and takes usual seat at the end of bar next to a shadowy figure*

Since Sasuke stomps frieza....... Naruto can beat the golden power ranger himself. This is definitely on my To-do list CaV wise if anyone is feeling frisky. Stops at 19.

Oh...with Sasuke they clear btw.

Probably the androids

I'm so confused. How can people say he stops at 1 and others say he pretty much clears....

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#32 Posted by panda_emperorix (3492 posts) - - Show Bio

He stops at one 😂

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#33 Posted by Gaoron (7664 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: Because DBZ chars from the very first arc had DC way above Naruto verse so pretty much in every round Naruto can get one shotted. It all depends if he can dodge and avoid getting blasted.

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#34 Posted by LimitlessSigil (2237 posts) - - Show Bio

@gaoron: Yh but as an example

Let's say 1 represents the strength of Round 1 then 1000 would represent the strength of round 20, the gap is insane.

Is Naruto so inconsistent that he varies from 1-1000?

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#35 Posted by Omega_kai (3072 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: No, it's just common sense isn't so common among Naruto debaters on CV.

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#36 Edited by Easternwind (4590 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: Because this forum is extremely inconsistent.

Also, the is no quantifiable difference between the tiers. Yes we know Nappa is stronger than Raditz, but we have no idea how much. They scale to the same feats.

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#37 Posted by LimitlessSigil (2237 posts) - - Show Bio

@easternwind: We know that Piccolo could one shot Saibamen who were roughly = to Raditz and that Piccolo was fodder to Nappa and Nappa was fodder to Goku and Base Goku was entirely fodder to Vegeta. It only gets crazier once you get to namek.

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#38 Posted by Kratosx64x (1124 posts) - - Show Bio

@hope_w: @reaverlation: I hope you guys are kidding. How they gonna beat anyone above Final Form Frieza? Saying they take down the Androids and especially Super Perfect Cell is madness.

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#39 Posted by Gaoron (7664 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil: I wouldn't say Naruto is inconsistent as a series, (unless you start to use databooks statements, those are filled with hyperboles and huge inconsistencies) it's opinions about his power level that highly differ between users. There are people who think he's FTL continent/Moon buster that can beat Superman and there are people who put him at the mid-high saiyan saga range due to his versality and comparable speed and physicals.

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#40 Edited by Easternwind (4590 posts) - - Show Bio

@limitlesssigil said:

@easternwind: We know that Piccolo could one shot Saibamen who were roughly = to Raditz and that Piccolo was fodder to Nappa and Nappa was fodder to Goku and Base Goku was entirely fodder to Vegeta. It only gets crazier once you get to namek.

None of that is quantifiable. Unless you wanna start using power levels.

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#41 Edited by Easternwind (4590 posts) - - Show Bio

@gaoron said:

@limitlesssigil: I wouldn't say Naruto is inconsistent as a series, (unless you start to use databooks statements, those are filled with hyperboles and huge inconsistencies) it's opinions about his power level that highly differ between users. There are people who think he's FTL continent/Moon buster that can beat Superman and there are people who put him at the mid-high saiyan saga range due to his versality and comparable speed and physicals.

He is Continent-Moon level, but that isn't enough to beat Superman by far. FTL, meh, depends on if you wanna accept the databook or not.

How are you going to say he isn't continent level, yet at the same time is Saiyan Saga range? The weakest Saiyan Saga character can casually blast away moons with small planet level force. No amount of versatility is going to matter at that point.

You also say he isn't FTL, yet is Saiyan Saga level speed. Saiyan Saga is around Light speed.

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#43 Edited by Killmonger101 (417 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 1 or 2 possibly. I know it may seem like lowball, but an enraged saiyan saga Gohan is a monster. Krillin has kienzan but that's too slow. I believe Naruto would get cut by that but that's unlikely. But an enraged Gohan? He was slapping Nappa partially. But there is the chance that he could get janked to death so I'll give Naruto the win. But Piccolo? Piccolo is around the same speed level as Naruto if not faster as well as the fact that he is by far stronger [possible moonbuster vs a far stronger version of a casual moonbuster]. Difference is, unlike gohan Piccolo's smart enough to avoid TSB or sealing and just get straight to the kill. I'd give this to Piccolo as a 7.5/10. If he somehow made it past Piccolo, Nappa would only get this 5.5/10 and that could swing either way. since he doesn't have Vegeta here to tell him to watch out for tricks, he may very well let himself get sealed or haxed to death. Also Nappa plays with his food, he won't oneshot Naruto off the bat. Hard stop however at Goku. An enraged kaioken Goku would easily OHKO Naruto with utmost ease. I can't see Naruto even getting a one out of 10 at this one.

TLDR: Naruto probably clears one and maybe two probably stops at 3, but if he somehow made it he could 50/50 Nappa due to cockiness however he definitely stops at 5.

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#44 Posted by El_directo_ (97 posts) - - Show Bio

@hope_w: u think naruto and sasuke can clear this gauntlet? Lol

U know, I've been observing u for a while now and I can say that u're definitely a TROLL. Gtfo the internet.

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#45 Posted by Hope_w (2353 posts) - - Show Bio

@el_directo_: and you took the time to 'observe' me and actually tag me to get my attention despite me not caring in the least who you are? Do you seriously do this for fun or is it just me personally?

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#46 Posted by Easternwind (4590 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops at 1 or 2 possibly. I know it may seem like lowball, but an enraged saiyan saga Gohan is a monster. Krillin has kienzan but that's too slow. I believe Naruto would get cut by that but that's unlikely

. But an enraged Gohan? He was slapping Nappa partially. But there is the chance that he could get janked to death so I'll give Naruto the win. But Piccolo? Piccolo is around the same speed level as Naruto if not faster as well as the fact that he is by far stronger [possible moonbuster vs a far stronger version of a casual moonbuster]. Difference is, unlike gohan Piccolo's smart enough to avoid TSB or sealing and just get straight to the kill. I'd give this to Piccolo as a 7.5/10. If he somehow made it past Piccolo, Nappa would only get this 5.5/10 and that could swing either way. since he doesn't have Vegeta here to tell him to watch out for tricks, he may very well let himself get sealed or haxed to death. Also Nappa plays with his food, he won't oneshot Naruto off the bat. Hard stop however at Goku. An enraged kaioken Goku would easily OHKO Naruto with utmost ease. I can't see Naruto even getting a one out of 10 at this one.

TLDR: Naruto probably clears one and maybe two probably stops at 3, but if he somehow made it he could 50/50 Nappa due to cockiness however he definitely stops at 5.

I am not sure why you think Naruto being cut by a kienzan is unlikely.

If you mean he could actually tank it. I would have to strongly disagree. The Kienzan was going to cut Nappa. Nappa is much stronger than Raditz, who could 100% no-sell an attack from Piccolo who blew up the moon in a small-planet level explosion.

If you mean it would no hit him. I would have to disagree aswell, though I see where you are coming from. Naruto is very fast, But Krillin is just as fast if not faster, and can easily spam Moon-Small Planet level blasts to keep Naruto from getting away.

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#47 Posted by Killmonger101 (417 posts) - - Show Bio

@killmonger101 said:

Stops at 1 or 2 possibly. I know it may seem like lowball, but an enraged saiyan saga Gohan is a monster. Krillin has kienzan but that's too slow. I believe Naruto would get cut by that but that's unlikely

. But an enraged Gohan? He was slapping Nappa partially. But there is the chance that he could get janked to death so I'll give Naruto the win. But Piccolo? Piccolo is around the same speed level as Naruto if not faster as well as the fact that he is by far stronger [possible moonbuster vs a far stronger version of a casual moonbuster]. Difference is, unlike gohan Piccolo's smart enough to avoid TSB or sealing and just get straight to the kill. I'd give this to Piccolo as a 7.5/10. If he somehow made it past Piccolo, Nappa would only get this 5.5/10 and that could swing either way. since he doesn't have Vegeta here to tell him to watch out for tricks, he may very well let himself get sealed or haxed to death. Also Nappa plays with his food, he won't oneshot Naruto off the bat. Hard stop however at Goku. An enraged kaioken Goku would easily OHKO Naruto with utmost ease. I can't see Naruto even getting a one out of 10 at this one.

TLDR: Naruto probably clears one and maybe two probably stops at 3, but if he somehow made it he could 50/50 Nappa due to cockiness however he definitely stops at 5.

I am not sure why you think Naruto being cut by a kienzan is unlikely.

If you mean he could actually tank it. I would have to strongly disagree. The Kienzan was going to cut Nappa. Nappa is much stronger than Raditz, who could 100% no-sell an attack from Piccolo who blew up the moon in a small-planet level explosion.

Oh I agree he can''t tank it.

If you mean it would no hit him. I would have to disagree aswell, though I see where you are coming from. Naruto is very fast, But Krillin is just as fast if not faster, and can easily spam Moon-Small Planet level blasts to keep Naruto from getting away.

What I'm saying is that Naruto isn't getting hit by the kienzan. The kienzan was noticeably slower than Krillin's other attacks and took an extremely long time period to reach Nappa. Also it was avoided with a simple head tilt.

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#48 Posted by Death_Trumpet (475 posts) - - Show Bio

Saying Naruto can make it past the first few rounds is the epitome of wank. Saying he clears the gauntlet is just lunacy.

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#49 Posted by Bandedessinee (454 posts) - - Show Bio

Stops hard at 2. A permanently enraged Gohan would disintegrate Naruto with a Kamehameha or Masenko. Pissed off Gohan that blasted Nappa's hand is above saiyan saga Piccolo who is a moon buster. In the saiyan saga Gohan's brief fits of rage gave him massive power level spikes. A permanently enraged saiyan saga Gohan could reach Frieza level and beyond since his power level would rapidly be going up with no way to stop it. He could probably kill Naruto with a headbutt like the headbutt he hit Raditz with.

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#50 Posted by Azureus (2250 posts) - - Show Bio

At worst can stop at 3 at best stops at 9